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As a reminder that you can't fight square dance  in the middle of a baseball game, Major League Baseball just laid the Royals and White Sox over its knee for a spanking over Sunday's fight in K.C. The sentences, via a MLB press release:

Miguel Olivo, Royals catcher, 5 games — "For charging the mound, which incited the bench clearing incident during the bottom of the fifth inning, and for  throwing a punch during the incident." Ruling will be appealed.

Zack Greinke, Royals pitcher, 5 games — "For intentionally throwing at a batter during the top of the seventh inning after warnings had been issued to both  Clubs following the bench clearing incident." Ruling will be appealed. 

Trey Hillman, Royals manager, 1 game — "For the intentional actions of Greinke after warnings had been issued earlier in the game." Suspension will be served tonight against Boston. 

Ozzie Guillen, White Sox manager, 2 games — "For his aggressive actions during the incident, which included making contact with Umpire Tim Timmons, and for  his comments following the game.  Guillen will begin to serve his suspension tonight, when the White Sox host the Detroit Tigers."

Everything seems pretty standard and I'm sure Olivo and Greinke will welcome a vacation from the oppressive Kansas City once the suspensions have to be served. However, the most interesting thing about this is that not one White Sox player — not even D.J. Carrasco, who hit Olivo on his third straight inside pitch — was suspended. That would seem to indicate that baseball believes Ozzie Guillen when he says his team wasn't intentionally throwing at the Royals.

(A belief that would be backed by the bases being loaded at the time.) 

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  1. Saro G
    1. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    Olivo is a hothead. People like to blame Reyes and Milledge for the Marlins-Mets tussle last September, but look at the common denominator.
  2. ksmith
    2. Posted by ksmith Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    carrasco should have got suspended too come on, at least three games
  3. SK
    3. Posted by SK Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    i wonder if ozzie speaks better english when hes yelling...
  4. Don
    4. Posted by Don Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    Just like the "enforcer" in hockey, I think the bean ball is still a big part of baseball. I'm sure Ozzie just said what every other major league manager thinks but doesn't talk about. And I'm sure Ozzie and the Chisox are not the only team in the majors who thinks this way. Rather than the umpires and the rules committee of the League office dictating who has the advantage in the pitcher-batter match-up, it's a way for the players to police themselves. I like it.
  5. TheRevPFG
    5. Posted by TheRevPFG Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:18 pm EDT

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    Anyone who still thinks Carrasco should have been suspended has no clue about anything relating to baseball. You see to win, regardless of the situation, you don't let the other team score. Hitting someone, anyone, with the bases loaded goes against that train of thought.
    That being said, Guillen is by far the only guy I want managing this team.
    Go Sox!
  6. Benjamin E
    6. Posted by Benjamin E Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm EDT

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    It's crap that Carrasco isn't getting suspended here. You shouldn't be able to take a swing at the opponent (even if it was a pansy a$$ swipe at the back of Olivo's head) and not get supsended. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7XhwuD5XFg
    The fact is, these teams have been going at it all year. When Olivo was hit, it was the 8th time a KC batter has been hit by a Sox pitcher in 12 games this season (3 times by Guillens "Hit Man" Dotel). When Greinke hit Swisher, that was the 7th time a Royals pitcher has hit a Sox batter. This isn't new, and it's not the last time it will happen.
  7. picpicoldi
    7. Posted by picpicoldi Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 pm EDT

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    no ozzie tonight. go tigers.
  8. jrv_423
    8. Posted by jrv_423 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    This is ridiculous. First of all, I don't even think Carrasco was throwing at Olivo. He had just gotten in the ballgame and was having control issues letting his shoulder fly out. That said, I still think Olivo should have charged him... you're a major league pitcher and should have better control than that after three pitches. So, I'm all for Olivo getting the boot for a few games along with Guillen since he threw a fit. Greinke and Hillman are another matter. Why does everyone seem to think Greinke's pitch was intentional? He lets one ball get away (as opposed to 3...) and automatically it's deemed on purpose? If any pitcher should've received a suspension, it's Carrasco, but really I don't think either of them were being malicious. Maybe I just want to see the good in people...
  9. always yodeling
    9. Posted by always yodeling Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 pm EDT

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    While they are the boys of summer, isn't it time to act like men?
  10. S B
    10. Posted by S B Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm EDT

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    Sensible decision.
  11. Doog
    11. Posted by Doog Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:31 pm EDT

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    What! Another hockey fight breaking out in a baseball game....this is like happening everyday now....
  12. Honey Peach
    12. Posted by Honey Peach Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    Funny,Snoop Doog !
  13. zoobie
    13. Posted by zoobie Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Ozzie is a feakin disgrace to baseball...
  14. Being Reasonable
    14. Posted by Being Reasonable Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    Go Cubs!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha
  15. Ryan W
    15. Posted by Ryan W Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    Yeah- no way they were throwing at Guillen. They were totally still in the game. Ozzie even said so...wait- what's that? Oh yeah, Guillen was pissed because Teahen attempted to lay a bunt down in the 5th when the game was already over. Great, now I'm confused.
  16. Honey Peach
    16. Posted by Honey Peach Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    Go Cubs? That's a laugh!
  17. JasonG
    17. Posted by JasonG Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    OK lets see how many baseball idiots we have on this forum ....
    Posts:
    2, 3, 4, 9,10, 18,23
    1) If you know baseball you never hit a batter on purpose with sacks packed.
    2) Carassco should never have even been ejected (no warning does not warrent an ejection the reason ozzie was pi$$ed)
    2b) Carassco was defending himself hence the light slap he held back knowing that AJ help up Olivo
    3) Ozzie had every right to be mad about Carassco getting tossed hence his fit and ejection (suspension was only due to his comments)
    4) Greinke got suspended 5 games like Olivo because 5 gamed for a starter = 1 start for all you "basbeball fans"
    5) People that hat Ozzie are Cubs fans or people with no IQ ( ex: cub fans)
    In general.. dont make dumb post not understanding the game or even watching the game to see how things transpired.
    Go Sox
  18. pcarbone50
    18. Posted by pcarbone50 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:04 pm EDT

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    how come carasso wasnt given any suspension he started all the fiasco
  19. phynd_it
    19. Posted by phynd_it Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    Even if the pitch was with a "PURPOSE". So what!?!?! GO OZZIE!!!!! GO SOX!!!!! BEAN AWAY, AND DENY DENY DENY!!! That's our story and we're sticking to it!
  20. U kno u love me
    20. Posted by U kno u love me Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    go royals:) i thought i should say it since nobody had
  21. ya whateva
    21. Posted by ya whateva Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:31 pm EDT

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    royals are the trash of the major leagues ever since george brett retired. they suck, and will continue to suck because that's just a beat down baseball city with mediocre young players, mediocre coaching, and horrible veteran signings.
  22. Mcgurk...
    22. Posted by Mcgurk... Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    Zoobie smoke another d@@bie... Jay Is Brilliant... Carassco would have killed Olivo with AJ holding him, Thus no suspension. No Ozzie last night... Tigers did go... didn't they?
  23. zoobie
    23. Posted by zoobie Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    #30- your a real fine specimen, you the man, my bad!!!!!!
  24. minnymo1
    24. Posted by minnymo1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:21 pm EDT

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