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Leave it to Kenny Williams and the White Sox to get baseball news back on the front burner.

As reported by the Chicago Tribune and by the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the White Sox are sending Javier Vazquez and reliever Boone Logan to the Braves in exchange for minor leaguers Tyler Flowers (C), Brent Lillibridge (SS) and possibly a minor league pitcher. (No one's quite sure on the exact combination, so hold the phone on those names.)

However, if that holds firm, this would appear to be a great trade for the Sox, who are shedding themselves of at least a good chunk of the $23 million owed to Vazquez over the next two seasons and picking up a good catcher prospect in Flowers.

Like the D'backs, Yankees and Expos before them, the Pale Hose could never get over the inconsistency that Vazquez brought to the mound. A powerful flamethrower one minute but a mental midget the next, Vazquez could never quite put it together to realize the potential that so many have seen. 

At one point last season, manager Ozzie Guillen challenged Vazquez through the media by saying he wasn't a big-game pitcher. Vazquez never came close to proving him wrong — going 2-4 with a 6.25 ERA over the final month of a pennant race — which is why you won't see too many South Siders wringing their hands over his departure. 

The fun now comes in projecting how this will affect other moves in the hot stove season. Are the Braves now officially done in the Jake Peavy player derby? Are the White Sox dumping salary to make a big play at next week's Winter Meetings — or is owner Jerry Reinsdorf going on the cheap in this time of economic uncertainty by dumping Vazquez, Nick Swisher and possibly, as rumored, Jermaine Dye? How will the Sox replace the 200+ innings that Vazquez pitched each of the last three seasons? Stay tuned, because this baseball newswheel may have finally, thankfully, started to turn.

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  1. Andy S
    1. Posted by Andy S Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:11 pm EDT

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    FIrst! go for peavy SOX!!!
  2. tommyg
    2. Posted by tommyg Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:15 pm EDT

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    first! Kenny Williams is such an overrated GM, he'll somehow have blown this deal too
  3. milojenkins
    3. Posted by milojenkins Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Another trash guy for the Braves. Why give up Flowers for him when they didnt want to give him up for Peavy?
  4. Steve C
    4. Posted by Steve C Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 pm EDT

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    Great job atlanta, way to get Vazquez 8 yrs too late
  5. puck34ever
    5. Posted by puck34ever Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    Yes the Twins will miss him and so will the rest of the al central.
  6. baseball fan009
    6. Posted by baseball fan009 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    go A's in 2009
  7. Tim
    7. Posted by Tim Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:12 pm EDT

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    I hope those names are wrong! How do you give up Flowers (Even with a young All-Star catcher already) for a past his prime innings eater?! Maybe Lillibridge and Reyes...
  8. El
    8. Posted by El Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    yes...now he can be the Mets punching bag...=)
  9. Edward
    9. Posted by Edward Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:42 pm EDT

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    Congrats to Chairman Reinsdorf on closing another great deal! I see another championship banner coming to the South Side.
  10. Brian G
    10. Posted by Brian G Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    glad we got rid of vasquez. he is way overpaid, and i like how kenny is getting rid of the big contract guys that aren't worth a crap. that being said i dont think the sox are going cheap, i would say they are just making room for a couple more moves. hopefully at second base or center field.
  11. Brand
    11. Posted by Brand Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    Haha stupid stupid!! So sorry Braves! And we took Mike Hampton from you for this!
  12. south side
    12. Posted by south side Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    "Kenny Williams is such an overrated GM, he'll somehow have blown this deal too"
    Congrats tommite622. You win idiot of the day award.
    So, someone who turns Brandon McCarthy into John Danks, a used up Freddie Garcia into gavin Floyd, an "A" ball catcher into Carlos Quentin, is an overrated GM?
    idiot
  13. Little Jon
    13. Posted by Little Jon Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:54 pm EDT

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    flowers and lillibridge? i hope this is wrong, i would only trade lillibridge for vasquez, flowers is going to be a star..
  14. Sox Apologist
    14. Posted by Sox Apologist Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:32 pm EDT

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    I am a little confused why Atlanta did this, especially if Flowers is the prospect they say he is. Nice job Kenny.
  15. Michael W
    15. Posted by Michael W Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Great job Kenny! Now let's trade Konerko for Chone Figgins!!! Chi-Sox 4 Life!!!!!
  16. Darren P
    16. Posted by Darren P Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:36 pm EDT

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    I liked the old $120 million Braves a lot better than the more recent $80 million Braves!
  17. bigkevsny2002
    17. Posted by bigkevsny2002 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    People remember Williams' success far more than his failures. How did Nick Swisher work out for ya? He gave up two top pitching prospects and I think four overall to get one terrible year out of Swisher.
  18. MikeD
    18. Posted by MikeD Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    if this checks out it's like getting paid 23 mill to pick up a stud prospect...
    it will be very tricky to fill the 200 innings, but anything under 11 million with an era under 5 in an improvement
  19. DrewFountain
    19. Posted by DrewFountain Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    Most Atlanta fans knew that Flowers would be used as trade bait. Lillibridge is not a loss for the Bravos depth, if they keep Johnson and Escobar (then Prado). Lillibridge needs to work on batting stance for another year before he's major league ready.
    Javier is an expensive move for an inning eater. If Leo makes a return tour to ATL, he may work out to be another great rehab project.
    Boone will give another lefty to rebuild the depleted Braves bullpen.
    Flowers has good bat speed, but it not fleet of foot. If the Sox also get JoJo - that would be beneficial for both teams.
  20. Jim
    20. Posted by Jim Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    I've been a CWS fan for forty years, and while I absolutely love Kenny WIlliams, I cannot figure out why any other GM would want to deal with him. He's made a career out of rooking teams out of solid prospects for used-up garbage, or picking up players who are "need-change-of-scenery/reclamation-projects" (Contreras, Quentin, Jenks).
    He must be the slickest, smoothest-talking jive-a** GM in recent history to pull off some of these trades (anybody remember him dealing Mike Sirotka to the Jays for David Wells, without informing the Jays that Sirotka had a bum shoulder that ended his career?).
    I'm sure the Braves will look back on this trade in two or three years and say "What the hell were we thinking?"
  21. Aaron R
    21. Posted by Aaron R Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:43 pm EDT

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    if flowers is really included in this trade, i am going to throw up.
  22. Sox Apologist
    22. Posted by Sox Apologist Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:32 pm EDT

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    Really it is a decent move for both teams if you throw out the salaries. If it prevents Atlanta from making another move, however, then it is a bad decision for Atlanta. And Boone Logan is awful. I know he is a lefty, but he is really bad.
  23. Kahuna
    23. Posted by Kahuna Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:28 pm EDT

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    Chi-Sox for life...What an awesome deal..Future all-star catcher and power hitter..Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet...
  24. Slav
    24. Posted by Slav Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    bigkevsny2002, the White Sox gave up a solid LHP prospect in Gio Gonzalez, a project in Fautino De los Santos, and a light-hitting OF in Ryan Sweeney for Swisher. De los Santos just had Tommy John surgery, Sweeney will never hit more than 10 HR a year and has had some injury issues making Gonzalez the only real piece that hurts for the Sox. It wasn't necessarily a good deal for either team, though I was a big Gio Gonzalez fan.
    Latest reports have the Sox getting Flowers, Lillibridge, Jon Gilmore and Santos Rodriguez, which would essentially give us 3 of their top 10-15 prospects. A VERY nice haul for Vazquez. He'll eat 200 innings and strike out 200 guys, but he won't help the team in any way really. You'll get some awesome performances, and some terrible ones. He's terribly unclutch and a mental midget as a SP. He won't be missed on the South Side. And Boone Logan is terrible. This is a good one for KW.

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