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Just weeks after the "Joe Mauer stealing signs" story momentarily shut down the Internet, it looks like baseball has another Zapruder film poised to make headlines — no matter if it's just a case of a weird camera angles and some strange transition trickery.

According to the folks over at Halos Heaven, this YouTube video shows Mariano Rivera(notes) spitting on the ball just before starting his relief appearance in the 10th inning of the Yankees' 5-4 loss to the Angels on Monday. With the heat of a playoff battle putting them on edge, Angels fans are seeing red over the clip and the site's blogmaster, Rev. Halofan, believes that "this is pretty conclusive evidence of why Rivera is able to throw only one pitch that has unpredictable, yet precise movement." 

On the flip side, Yankees blog Fack Youk is pointing out the absurdity of believing that it would take 15 years for anyone to discover that the secret to Rivera's brilliant success is simply gained by hocking the most magic baseball loogie since Keith Hernandez

Asks FY's Jay: 

"Do these hacks at Halos Heaven really think that's been the key to throwing the cutter all these years? Spit directly on the ball and hope no one notices? FOR FIFTEEN YEARS? If it was his super-secret method, don't you think he'd be a touch more discreet about it?"

What's more, the blog also takes the mythbusting liberty of pointing out that the "saliva" from the last frame above is actually the Majestic logo on the sleeve of Mike Scioscia's jersey, which appears in the next shot from FOX's cameras.  

Because we never see where the loogie lands or have additional angles at our disposal, I think it's impossible to rule that Rivera was doing his best Gaylord Perry impersonation.

Still, in this 24/7 news cycle world, we better fully expect the New York media will make this a story leading up to tonight's Game 4 at Angel Stadium and probably even ask Rivera about it. After all, it doesn't take much these days.

UPDATE: Told you so. Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that MLB is looking into this matter, but that their intial feelings are circumspect. 

UPDATE #2: The commissioner's office has cleared Rivera of any wrongdoing.

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  1. Matt O
    1. Posted by Matt O Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:57 am EDT

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    Cool beans, dawg
  2. S A
    2. Posted by S A Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:05 pm EDT

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    It was a roid loogie
  3. Peter D
    3. Posted by Peter D Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:06 pm EDT

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    he has one pitch, yet has managed to be the most dominant relief pithcer in the history of the game. wouldnt surprise me. everyone else in the game cheats
  4. david
    4. Posted by david Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:09 pm EDT

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    The last thing a spitball is would be precise. To suggest this being the reason for his success is stupid. He is simply rubbing up the ball. Some pitchers dont like the excess mud residue on the ball and moisture helps rub that off. Nothing fishy going on here.
  5. Client #9
    5. Posted by Client #9 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:11 pm EDT

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    Busted. Still the greatest closer ever. But come on, this was pretty retarded of Mariano.
  6. jumpman23
    6. Posted by jumpman23 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:12 pm EDT

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    only bunch of low life idiots go around and make stuff like this up. All this years Rivera's magic is been just spitting on the ball, wow...only someone with nothing better to do during the day comes up with [profane]s like these. Seriously people get a real life and that goes for the writer of this blog too. Becuase the only reason u would bring this up is if you really dont have a serious job...really. Do they pay you for this by the way...Yahoo must have money to fork out. Seriously!
  7. DjFog86
    7. Posted by DjFog86 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:15 pm EDT

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    If you watched on MLB TV the spit clearly misses the ball.
    Stop making something out of nothing.
  8. AnthonyL
    8. Posted by AnthonyL Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:17 pm EDT

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    how is it different than pitchers licking their fingers before gripping a ball?
  9. B E
    9. Posted by B E Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:20 pm EDT

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    I'm an Angels fan but this "controversy" is insane. He throws one of the best cuttters ever. This spit and rubbing up the ball isn't going to do anything to effect his pitches. There was a great story about him a while back and how he has a very stiff wrist and basically can't throw a breaking ball, but it does allow him to throw his cutter the way he does. End of the day, who really cares?
  10. javbal1633
    10. Posted by javbal1633 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:25 pm EDT

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    I dont understand how Major League teams stil cant figure this guy out after 15 years. He has ONE pitch and has the same movement on it everytime. He doesnt even throw as hard as he used to. WTF I mean its crazy. I hate the yankees but I wont ever stand there and argue that he isnt the greatest closer ever. Hate to say it!!! It even pains the hell outta me to say it but he is. But isnt it also crazy that every closer with the exception of and the Yanks has blown at least 1 save this offseason??? Broxton, Street, Nathan, Papelbon, Franklin and Fuentes have all blown saves!
  11. socalyard
    11. Posted by socalyard Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:28 pm EDT

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    AnthonyL, to answer your question, the rule is that if the pitcher goes to his mouth at all, he has to wipe his hand before touching the ball. And DjFog, I have this on my DVR - I don't know what you are watching but there is no way you can say that the spit missed the ball. Nice try though.
  12. sonic
    12. Posted by sonic Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:30 pm EDT

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    aw so the tar is in his saliva instead of his baseball cap or hand...... that makes perfect sense, how else could a pitcher be that great all of these years lol.
  13. franknsteph5150
    13. Posted by franknsteph5150 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:30 pm EDT

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    Pitchers are constantly licking their hands and then rubbing the ball everytime they get a new ball from the ump. No one ever says anything about them putting spit on the ball then. The only reason there is so much "hoopla" regarding these picture is because it involves a Yankee Player. Mo has gotten where he is due to talent.
  14. chick_la
    14. Posted by chick_la Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:34 pm EDT

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    eeeww!!!
    He's still a great closer...no doubt about it...don't think the halos are trying to erase his record...get real.
  15. ny_yanks19
    15. Posted by ny_yanks19 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:36 pm EDT

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    Completely and utterly ridiculous.
  16. dante
    16. Posted by dante Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:39 pm EDT

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    Cool story, bro.
  17. Older_than_Moses_Shaq
    17. Posted by Older_than_Moses_Shaq Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:40 pm EDT

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    Hawk toong
  18. dante
    18. Posted by dante Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:40 pm EDT

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    Can you tell us the one about Jack and his magic beans next?
  19. sotog87
    19. Posted by sotog87 Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:40 pm EDT

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    when mariano blows in his hand to make it "warmer" hes probably spitting to get a better grip...and more movement on that cutter...
  20. RyanH
    20. Posted by RyanH Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:42 pm EDT

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    nice seinfeld reference. props.
  21. scott s
    21. Posted by scott s Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:47 pm EDT

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    javba, wondering the same thing for years...
  22. millionaire
    22. Posted by millionaire Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    lol, what's the next? and who's the next?
  23. Rob F
    23. Posted by Rob F Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:49 pm EDT

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    Rediculous.
  24. Czheck
    24. Posted by Czheck Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:50 pm EDT

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    lol its not like the angels are going to win another game this seris lol change the name to the failngels
  25. Jon L
    25. Posted by Jon L Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:52 pm EDT

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    #David you are correct sir, anyone who has pitched knows, this is alot about nothing if you ask me.

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