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Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:35 pm EDT

Five and Fly: Murray less than a hit

A few weeks ago, asked about Eddie Murray's touch with Los Angeles Dodgers hitters who ranged from the greenest of rookies to the grayest of veterans, one of those veterans sighed and shook his head.

He liked Murray. He valued Murray's Hall-of-Fame credentials. He assumed Murray could probably teach hitting to someone.

The problem, he said, was Murray could be difficult to approach, particularly for a young player. And Murray, he said, didn't do enough of approaching of his own.

"He's trying, I think," the veteran said. "He's better this year than he was last year."

On Thursday morning, after a series in which the Dodgers outscored the New York Mets, 18-5, Murray was fired as hitting coach from his second organization in two years. Then, the Cleveland Indians were said to be unhappy with Murray's ability – or willingness – to communicate. It appears the Dodgers arrived at the same conclusion in less than a season and a half, eight months after they finished fourth in the National League in runs despite hitting the second-fewest home runs.

They were, as of Murray's final game this season, seventh in the league in runs, again not hitting home runs, and too often taking poor at-bats at critical times. From last season, they'd slipped in many key categories (some, granted, due to J.D. Drew's departure and Juan Pierre's slow start), including on-base percentage.

So, at a point where they are feathering in at-bats for the likes of Matt Kemp and James Loney while trying to fan productive seasons out of Jeff Kent and Nomar Garciaparra, the Dodgers hired the anti-Murray in the easy-going Bill Mueller, who had been a special assistant to general manager Ned Colletti and now will be interim hitting coach.

Mueller hit .291 and won a batting title in 11 seasons. He's pleasant, accessible and attentive to detail, and maybe that will work.

FIVE …

• Though he apparently is healthy, Pittsburgh Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson has not played since Saturday, coming to the ballpark for the three games since to find Jose Castillo at his position. Wilson, who signed a three-year, $20.2-million extension in February, hit .211 in May and was batting .250 in June when the run of DNPs began. Jim Tracy says he's simply riding Castillo's hot glove and bat, and the Pirates indeed have won two of the three games and scored 28 runs while Castillo has gone 5 for 10. Out of curiosity, I asked an American League baseball operations man what kind of interest there would be in Wilson in a trade. His report: "Wilson is a solid everyday shortstop who's got value, especially defensively. He and Castillo are not even close."

• Remember, it's a boys' game. In Chicago, Carlos Zambrano and Rich Hill have had dugout episodes with catcher Michael Barrett, one of which ultimately left Barrett with two black eyes and stitches in his lip. In Texas, Kevin Millwood had to step between manager Ron Washington and catcher Gerald Laird. And, last night in Houston, reliever Dan Wheeler shoved starter Chris Sampson. Considering Wheeler had just undone in two-thirds of an inning all that Sampson had put together in seven against the Oakland Athletics, there seemed to be some confusion of roles. "Bad timing on my part," Sampson told writers in Houston.

• And that's probably that for Edwin Jackson. At a time when the Tampa Bay Devil Rays had won seven of nine, believed they should have won nine of nine, and needed Jackson to stand up to San Diego Padres ace Jake Peavy, Jackson no-showed last night. He lasted an entire out, took his eighth loss without a win and stressed a bullpen that is stressed enough without having to go 8 2/3 innings. In 12 starts, Jackson has pitched 3 1/3 innings or fewer in five of them.

• Speaking of the Devil Rays' bullpen, it recently added Jay Witasick, whom manager Joe Maddon has slotted into the seventh inning. Closer Al Reyes has been perfect in 15 save attempts and Gary Glover has pitched well since May 6. He's got the eighth inning. I'm not making this up: Witasick is engaged to marry the daughter of one Yotsie Novotnak, second baseman for the Hazleton (Pa.) High School Cougars 35 years ago. The shortstop on that team: Joe Maddon.

• The Kansas City Royals, who have played about .500 ball for a month, lost their DH (Mike Sweeney) and a reliever (Brandon Duckworth) to back ailments last night against the St. Louis Cardinals. Duckworth probably goes to the DL and Sweeney looks like he's going to carry that balky back right to the end of his contract.

… AND FLY

Trying to decide which surprises me more:
A) The New York Yankees gaining six games on the Boston Red Sox in two weeks to pull within 8½ games in the AL East.
B) The Washington Nationals gaining 4½ games on the Mets in eight days to pull within 8½ games in the NL East.

Red Sox infielder Kevin Youkilis apparently would vote B. He had this to say to the Boston Herald on the charging Yankees: "Do you think we care what they are doing? They have to win every day to catch us. They have to win and we have to lose."

Sort of sounds like he cares.

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  1. Don Killuminati
    1. Posted by Don Killuminati Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 pm EDT

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    "They have to win and we have to lose."
    yes, Kevin, that IS how it works...
  2. Diana
    2. Posted by Diana Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Still one of my all-times faves, Ed was my heart as a player, but he was considered gruff and unapproachable in his heyday too...guess that old dog hasn't learned any new tricks. I feel for him personally, but fully understand why the Dodgers let him go, especially given there's not much "old Dodger Blue" left around that dugout anyways. Most of them play for the ANGELS now! Come to think of it, a little trip down the I-5 might just suit the HOF 1Ber.
  3. Lenny D
    3. Posted by Lenny D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    Tied for 1st and fire your hitting coach????? OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
  4. fredwedd
    4. Posted by fredwedd Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    What the heck is the front office doing?!?!?! I hope they are not going to end up like the Laker organization. Not a good move.
  5. jaadlopez
    5. Posted by jaadlopez Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    Yeah, tied for first....but if they could hit they'd be UP BY ABOUT 10 GAMES!!!!!
  6. MDS
    6. Posted by MDS Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    The Yankees do not surprise me. They should be 10 games over .500 let alone one. They were left for dead two weeks ago and now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon again. This was bound to happen. The only reason they had a bad start was that four of their starting pitchers got injured in the first month. Also, Damon, Abreu and Cano had slow starts. Now they are getting hot and Rivera hasnt let up a run in a month. Don't be surprised if by Labor Day the Yankees move past the SOX.
  7. Drew1972
    7. Posted by Drew1972 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    I grew up Idolizing Eddie Murray, he was the reason I was the only switch hitter in Little League ( not very good left handed ) and I know his reputation as " grumpy ". So maybe what E
  8. Drew1972
    8. Posted by Drew1972 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    You can fire that man from every team in baseball, it still will not change the fact that other then Mantle, Eddie Murray was the greatest switch hitter in MLB History
  9. sam spade
    9. Posted by sam spade Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:12 pm EDT

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    Another stupid blog by Tim Brown. Eddie Murray was never a people person in the first place. Why they hired him is beyond me? Communication problem? Duh! Eddie Murray spent his entire career not talking.
    Blog something else.
  10. jmortski
    10. Posted by jmortski Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    This is weak! It's not Eddie's fault that these guys aren't hitting. This is just a classic case of a team finding a scpegoat for underperforming players. It's much easier to let go of a hitting coach than call out the players....Typical in this day and age.
  11. Myk
    11. Posted by Myk Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:31 pm EDT

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    hey "jm5900"...I think you'd be THIRD...not first. On a slightly different note than Murray...does anyone else wonder how Edwin Jackson might have developed if Joey Amalfitano had been able to work his magic on the kid? He always seemed to have a knack for getting pitchers to overachieve.
  12. The Shadow
    12. Posted by The Shadow Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 pm EDT

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    I agree with 8. The Yankees have way to much talent & tradition to be a sub-500 team. Also, I'm old enough to remember a 141/2 game kead the SOX had on the Yankees in JULY, 1978. We YANKEE fans will always remember Bucky @%&&@ Dent, as will everybody in Red Sox Nation. Beware, Beantowners...the Yanks are coming!
  13. acessnapped
    13. Posted by acessnapped Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Mussina, Pettite, and Roger will break down at some point between now and September. Too damn old. Having said that it's pretty obvious which league is better. Diamondbacks were in 1st in NL West, and they've won 1 of 6 against Sox and Yanks.
  14. howieneil
    14. Posted by howieneil Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    i didnt understand the eddie murray thing until now. hes unapproachable. ok, as a coach you have to be a coach, not a statue. the mets really need to get this thing figured out. theyve been abysmal. its a long season and all but two weeks from now, they could be having a fire sale. the yankees will win, the sox will lose. happens every year.
  15. Richard
    15. Posted by Richard Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:58 pm EDT

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    That is the reason more blacks don't go into baseball
  16. Choppa
    16. Posted by Choppa Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:01 pm EDT

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    Eddie Murray is the best switch hitter to ever play MLB baseball! The Dodgers are a 1/2 game out of 1st & you fire the hitting coach???? I think it is hidden racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  17. Choppa
    17. Posted by Choppa Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:01 pm EDT

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    Hey puzzy.monger- do you feel Eddie is the greatest switch hitter in MLB history? The butter was left in the hall of fame! Watch what happens to the Dodgers from this point forward. Please use your words in a educated manner...
  18. John
    18. Posted by John Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    OK, so communication skills need to improve... but if I just swept the Mets, scored 18 runs and 31 hits in 3 games, I would be nuts to fire my hitting coach. Is there a way to see it his way???
  19. Joe Torre
    19. Posted by Joe Torre Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    Murry underachieved with this talented group this season especially regarding lousey at bats in critical situations, working a pitcher deep into counts, allowing Pierre to hit the ball in the air week after week after week. He was a HOF player but an average hitting coach who did not really "know" his disciples.
  20. E C
    20. Posted by E C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 pm EDT

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    Repeat after me: Great players do not necessarily (or even usually) make great coaches =)
  21. William M
    21. Posted by William M Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    Murray's black?
  22. wf0329
    22. Posted by wf0329 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:43 pm EDT

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    fire hall of famers is not smart. but then again look at the organization's name. they have a histiry of WEIRD transactions.
  23. egillis6
    23. Posted by egillis6 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    There is no doubt Eddie was a great player, but that does not always translate to good coach. In fact it almost never does; Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Wayne Gretzky, Magic Johnson. All some of the greatest ever in their sports and average as coaches at best. When you are that good, it comes to easy. I will always take the guy that has the least athletic ability, but has to use his brain to get the big leagues and stick. They make the best coaches.
  24. live 4 surf
    24. Posted by live 4 surf Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:56 pm EDT

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    san francisco should hire him. he and many of the giant players are switch hitters and currently aren't swinging big sticks. battocoat and puzzy keep going just passing through.

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