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Five and Fly: Angels need Vlad to hack

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Vladimir Guerrero

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Rise and shine, Vladimir Guerrero.

In his 11th season, he's come out hitting .403, allowing the Los Angeles Angels to outscore the Seattle Mariners (who have played five fewer games) and the Oakland Athletics in the American League, and they're gaining on the Kansas City Royals' juggernaut.

Through 20 games, the story remains the same in The OC. Garret Anderson has returned to full health but hasn't provided meaningful run production in the cleanup spot, and the others assigned to Big Daddy Vladdy Duty – Casey Kotchman, Shea Hillenbrand and Robb Quinlan have seen time in the fifth hole – are, well, Casey Kotchman, Shea Hillenbrand and Robb Quinlan.

The result? Guerrero is going to set a career high in walks, if he allows it. Already he's walked 11 times, four times intentionally. ("You can't walk him unintentionally," Jim Leyland mused the other day.) At this rate, he'll receive 96 walks, 35 with the catcher standing up.

The solution? Swing, Vladdy. Swing.

FIVE …

• The Detroit Tigers are going it without Kenny Rogers, and while Nate Robertson, Justin Verlander and Jeremy Bonderman have been steady and sometimes brilliant at the head of the rotation, there are concerns about left-hander Mike Maroth and right-hander Chad Durbin. The Tigers might not be able to wait on Rogers or prospect Andrew Miller, who has pitched reasonably well at Class-A Lakeland, and therefore are among the contenders already looking for starting pitching help.

• The Cleveland Indians are on the lookout for a closer, in case Joe Borowski doesn't work out. He's got to be reasonably priced, though. Think the next Al Reyes. Think long-shot.

• The Houston Astros, my pick in the NL Central, are wearing me out. Lose four to start. Win 9 of 11 to bring me back. Lose four again. When does Roger Clemens get there? And when does Lance Berkman start hitting?

• Today's pick to click: Ben Sheets in Chicago. The Cubs got him pretty good in Milwaukee 2½ weeks ago, but the Brewers are rolling and the Cubs haven't figured out what team they're going to be yet: the one that doesn't score much and loses, or the one that scores big and still loses.

• Read where Ken Griffey Jr. had a colon problem and looked it up: In his career against the Angels right-hander, Griffey has hit .278 with a home run, three RBI and four strikeouts in 18 at-bats. Not great, but I wouldn't call it a problem.

… AND FLY

Rich Donnelly, the insightful Los Angeles Dodgers coach, was talking this week about players who'd changed positions in the course of their careers, or transitioned into pitching, or out of pitching, and how nobody really knows how these things are going to work out.

The conversation tripped a memory of Brooks Kieschnick, the big Texan who came up an outfielder with the Chicago Cubs in 1996 and went out a right-handed pitcher/left-handed pinch-hitter with the Milwaukee Brewers in 2004.

Donnelly loved the guy and recalled this 2003 sequence for Kieschnick in a game against the San Diego Padres at Qualcomm Stadium:

Bottom of the 5th: Warmed up in the bullpen to relieve Brewers starter Glendon Rusch.

Top of the 6th: Pinch-hit for Rusch, flying to left against Charles Nagy.

Bottom of the 6th: Allowed two hits in a scoreless inning.

Top of the 7th: Rested, presumably.

Bottom of the 7th: Grabbed a catcher's mitt and warmed up the pitcher who relieved him, right-hander Jayson Durocher.

"The warming-up-the-pitcher thing is what got me," Donnelly said. "Darnedest thing I ever saw."


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  1. pikeiji
    1. Posted by pikeiji Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 pm EDT

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    "The solution? Swing, Vladdy. Swing."
    Right. Because the best way to increase your team's offense is to lower your on-base percentage. Sure. In case you hadn't noticed, though, right now he's posting the highest OPS of his career; he's brilliant right now. But I suppose if you want him to forgo getting on base to slightly up his solo-HR count, then yeah, you could advocate he swing for the fences.
    If you wanted the Angels to score fewer runs, then yeah, you could do that.
    I'm utterly shocked some people get paid to write this.
  2. free2bustin
    2. Posted by free2bustin Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    Key
  3. free2bustin
    3. Posted by free2bustin Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    In relation to the Chicago Cubs except for The big Z their pitching at times looks ok it will come around. Once the offence starts to kick in the pitching will be their Just wait until Soriano gets healthy and returns. Derek Lee is good for 35hr's and 110rbi's as wellas Soriano This team will be ok dont worry Cubs fans
  4. Pause
    4. Posted by Pause Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:43 pm EDT

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    Outrageous suggestion here, and I'm using this as a forum to kick off some debate, two way players like Kieschnick are far too rare. When drafting a big hitter/ big time pitcher, why does it become necessary to force a position decision? Play the guy as a pitcher who is a DH in his off days. Let him hang around as a right fielder. Give him day of rest after his start if you are concerned for the arm. Pitching and hitting is presumably how he has spent his entire amateur career, so it won't ruin him. Think of all the hitters who could have been stars, but ended up failed minor league pitchers! Ptichers are roughly half of all minor leaguers. You're telling me it's inherent that none of them can hit? The first organization to develop this principle, of utilizing talent where it exists and further shirking traditions (think OPS), will reap substantial benfeits.
  5. victorv
    5. Posted by victorv Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:32 pm EDT

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    "The solution? Swing, Vladdy. Swing."
    well, guys who write garbage like this are also the same meatballs that keep saying that the Yankees only need Wang and Mussina back before they can contend for another WS. Funny how Vlad is hitting .400 and this guy wants him to swing more. Then, he will write an article saying the Angels can't win if Vlad keeps hacking and striking out. He must have missed the part where the Angels have the best rotation and bullpen in possibly the entire league. You don't need to be first in offense if you pitch the way they do. Middle of the pack offensively, tops pitching and defense gets it done.
  6. reggieray5
    6. Posted by reggieray5 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:42 pm EDT

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    I don't get how you can even make a comment like this. All Vlad has been doing is swinging, and the only way the angels are going to continue to win is by either hoping someone starts hitting or make a move.
    But you can't put any of this on Vlad.
  7. clitpot
    7. Posted by clitpot Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    let Vladdy do what ever he wants. He is nasty.
  8. DMart
    8. Posted by DMart Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    Just Vladdy being Vladdy....He does what he wants, and he does it well.
  9. huskerhick88
    9. Posted by huskerhick88 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    vlad is doing just fine if u want him to get his solo homeruns up then fine but seriously that guy suggesting that hew should swing more so that pitchers dont even need to through it close a walk is a good as a hit and wait to see what brandon wood can do when they bring him up then maybe if that all doesnt work then try to let him swing more but for now i'll take the 400 average and great OBP
  10. JosephD
    10. Posted by JosephD Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Vlad has always been a swinging machine. Yet he only K's about one out of ten AB's for his career. AND he almost has an even K/BB ratio. Why would anyone say he's swinging too much? A career .300+ hitter.....this year is no different than any other. Isn't a solo HR better than a walk anyways? A run is a run....
  11. Jamie S
    11. Posted by Jamie S Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    do you really get paid to write garbage like this? the angels have won 4 of their lst 5 and its because vladdy has his highest OBP of his career. So no vladdy dont go swining and striking out, keep doing what your doing and once this team gets as a whole gets healthy the angels will continue to keep winning. Man thats easy money to write crap and just get paid for it....
  12. Barry Switzer
    12. Posted by Barry Switzer Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:45 pm EDT

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    About the dumbest column I've read in a long time. Swing Vlady swing? How stupid is that for baseball insight. This guy is saying "Throw out your strike zone and swing at everything Vlad!" The Angels will be just fine. They sure don't need to push the panic button the way this reporter is. Sounds like a football reporter out of his depth doing baseball in the off season.
  13. Al T
    13. Posted by Al T Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:00 pm EDT

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    Steroics: - An heroic accomplishment aided by the use of steroids.
    Example, when Barry Bonds breaks Hank Aarons HR record that will be a steroic achievement.!
  14. benjamin p
    14. Posted by benjamin p Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    Surprised that more players aren't used as player/mop up reliever combos to save a roster spot. Seems like a ton of players used to pitch in college/HS before being made full time position players

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