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We baseball fans have become a suspicious sort.

For example, I was recently directed toward this picture of David Ortiz posing with J.D. Drew's freshly-caught fish down in Florida. I suppose the redirector's intent was to get a chuckle out of Big Papi holding a delicious bass, yet I couldn't help myself from initially having the following reaction: "Wow, Ortiz looks a little trimmed down for spring training. I wonder what he's doing — or not doing."

Did I have a right to allow such a thought?

I'd say no, because Ortiz has never been linked to a steroid investigation and his recent stance of a one-year suspension for PED users has been the toughest issued by a player this spring.

On the other hand, Ortiz used to work out with A-Rod's banned trainer (though he says Angel Presinal never suggested he take them) and he once denied steroid use while employing the ever convenient out clause of never knowingly taking them.

But whether or not Ortiz ever took steroids isn't close to what I'm trying to argue or debate here. Rather, I'm wondering if my reaction to that photo officially means that we're at a point where players can't even get into shape the right way without raising eyebrows?

New York Times columnist George Vecsey has the same thought in today's editions, taking note of baseball's numerous weight-loss success stories with extreme caution.  

From the NYT: 

"You have to be a little skeptical, given the context of watching bodies change," Dr. Gary Wadler, an internist and member of the World Anti-Doping Agency, said Thursday. "The explanation then was that they were eating more and working out more. Now if you hear players say, ‘We changed our ways,' all you can do is be suspicious."

Of course, there are many benefits to losing weight and reshaping your body, especially as players advance in age. Marlon Anderson, 35, tells Vecsey that losing weight takes a lot of stress off his valuable hips and knees.

Meanwhile, Vecsey interviews a few doctors and health experts who suggest that baseball's newer drug penalties may have sparked a reverse competition of sorts. While baseball players might have once been motivated to gain the most muscle mass in the clubhouse, now they're racing to see who can do the most with a lighter, slimmer and fitter body. As Vecsey points out, there have been plenty of players — he namechecks Ron Guidry — who have done much more with much less.

Still, I think we'll continue to view baseball's Biggest Loser stories with a healthy dose of skepticism. After a decade and a half of watching players inflate their numbers with artificial means, it'll take a while for us fully believe they're deflating their bodies through natural means like the Nintendo Wii. We remain a scarred people.

What do you think when a slimmed-down player reports to camp?

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  1. Belifarnham
    1. Posted by Belifarnham Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 pm EDT

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    "Ortiz has never been linked to a steroid investigation and his recent stance of a one-year suspension for PED users has been the toughest issued by a player this spring."
    So what? Do you remember what one of ex-NY Governor Eliot Spitzer's biggest administration points was? Family values and not getting thousand dollar escorts. "Do as i say, not as i do" shouldn't impress anybody.
    I wonder, back in 2005 or so, what Michael Vick's public stance would have been on dogfighting if asked.
  2. Jay Mac
    2. Posted by Jay Mac Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Big Papi is obviously a juicer. I mean come on, he sucks, then he is awesome for 5 years, then he sucks again.
    Sounds like a cycle. Its seems everyone on the DR WBC team has a bit of history with the juice.
  3. Deker
    3. Posted by Deker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:31 pm EDT

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    Last year Prince Fielder didn't get close to 50 home runs last season after he reported to camp much slimmer since he became a vegitarian. Apparently it weakened his power.
  4. The Unsilent Majority
    4. Posted by The Unsilent Majority Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    I think "Medium Papi" doesn't sound as good as "Big Papi." Personally, I get suspicious every time a power hitter suddenly develops problems from the elbows down.
  5. sam spade
    5. Posted by sam spade Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:12 pm EDT

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    Oritz is a juicer. Simple and plain as the guns he's now sporting. His association with Dr. Steroid of the Dominican Republic says it all.
  6. sam spade
    6. Posted by sam spade Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:12 pm EDT

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    Aren't we at the point where we have to ask ourselves who isn't on it? Derek Jeter and the soft tossers. Wait a minute, that might not even work. Paul Byrd of the Indians was busted with HGH.
  7. Duk
    7. Posted by 'Duk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Again: This isn't a referendum on whether or not Ortiz used PEDs. I was just using him as an example.
  8. saucy
    8. Posted by saucy Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:41 pm EDT

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    c'mon sam, he had a script for it from his dentist...
  9. cuffablimp
    9. Posted by cuffablimp Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:34 pm EDT

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    Papi didn't do steroids. He played with a weak mediocre offensive unit in Minnesota and obviously picked up some great habits from his team mate Manny Ramirez along with hitting in a more effective offensive unit. When a great player is around it becomes contagious and Big Papi is an example. He has fine tuned his ability and @ dh he will dominate for years to come. His signing is almost as big in effect as the sale of Babe Ruth.
  10. zubee
    10. Posted by zubee Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:49 pm EDT

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    Are we going to have a witch hunt now, picking names and labeling them as steroid users? What's done is done, testing is being done for steroid abuse. It should be a new page. Let's flip the damn page and worry about playing baseball. It seems just when things die down, some mooch throws out a name from the list of positive testers from 9 years ago and all the crap returns. Enough already. If this is going to be the way things work, just dish out all the names that tested positive and lets get on with business. PLAY BALL!!!!!!!!
  11. SmackUSilly
    11. Posted by SmackUSilly Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    I believe it was 2007 when Lance Berkman showed up for the new season looking significantly thinner than the previous season. Was he on the 2003 list? Did he get a heads up that he would be tested in 2007? I wouldn't doubt it. Look at his numbers starting with 2006, then followed by 2007 when he showed up thinner, and finally 2008. You be the judge: Games HR RBI
    2006 152 45 136
    2007 153 34 102
    2008 159 29 106
  12. million_dollar_sleeper
    12. Posted by million_dollar_sleeper Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    ortiz was nothing but a weak wristed clubhouse character for us. then he signs with Boston and is the best hitter in the AL? HR numbers going up every year.... yeah right. juicer.
  13. Luis
    13. Posted by Luis Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    This hunt for steroid using players is getting ridicoulous...Why dont we start putting an asterisk on every player that has played baseball before the tests and the banning started. How can your proof that HANK AARON was clean? How do you proof JOE DIMAGGIO was clean? How do you proof Babe was clean? How do you proof Nolan Ryan was clean? Where there controls back then like the ones baseball has now? NO! Were drugs available for athletes back then? YES. So let´s stop being naive and let´s stop saying that past baseball players were better because they did not "juice" because that´s a lie...yes they did! they just did not have a whole back of professionals personal trainers, gyms,etc in their reach....Since 2006 the tests have been public and the steroids/drugs have been officially ban from baseball, no big names have been linked to steroids since 2006, why? because they are really playing clean... Some of them have fallen but usually youngsters that are in the first years in the majors. When it comes to Ortiz, he is clean. When he played with the Twins he did not even play everyday and everybody that knows baseball know that you dont play as well when you are just a platoon player, you need to swing the bat regularly in order to heat up and that´s what happened with Ortiz as soon as he got out of the Twins and landed in a team with a guy like Manny Ramirez backing him up.
    If you guys want to put an asterisk on the Big Mac, Barry Bonds, A-Rod or you guys do not want them on the Hall of Fame because of the whole "juice" deal, then you guys should put an asterisk on every record made before the drug tests started around baseball....Many drugs were out and many drugs were not even traceable back in the 70s, 60s and 50s....You can juice up all you want but if you dont have tallent that ball is not gonna leave the ball park, if you do not have tallent that ball is not gonna be a strike, if you do not have tallent you will not last more than 5 seasons.
    What baseball should keep on doing is keep testing everybody during the season and keep punishing those players that are STILL doing it, not those that did it 5 or 6 years ago.

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