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I hadn't seen this line of thinking until this picture, but I'm a sucker for such theories. For example, I remember in 1999, when every Golden Domer had a national title scheduled for the football Irish. The reason? Notre Dame had won in '66, '77 and '88 and each national title came in the coach's third season. Of course, none of this accounted for the fact that Bob Davie was running the show in South Bend and the team went 5-7.

This sign by this Mets fan in Miami seems just as specious, so make of it what you will.

For one, the years and correlations are conveniently manipulated. The '86 Giants won AFTER the '86 Mets did (Super Bowl XXI was actually in 1987), but the '69 Jets won BEFORE the Mets '69 season. A little continuity would have been nice.

For another, the Giants won in the 1990 season and that title was sandwiched by two playoff-free seasons by the Mets. How to explain 91 wins in '90 and 77 in '91?

This '08 squad does have Johan Santana instead of Bob Davie, though. Santana and the Mets are currently cruising against the Marlins, a team that will collectively make $21 million this year. At that rate, the Fightin' Fish would need almost seven seasons to equal the $137.5 million value of Santana's new contract.

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  1. John H
    1. Posted by John H Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    Ihoipe the mets are good this year; so I can enjoy hating them. It is no fun despising a team that is down. Go Mets- I hate you.
  2. Steve-O
    2. Posted by Steve-O Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    could be true? giants lost the 2000 super bowl and we lost teh world series to the yankees.
  3. Stan H
    3. Posted by Stan H Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:57 pm EDT

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    Go Mets! C'mon, let New York celebrate twice in one year since the Knicks are a lost cause.
  4. Chris J
    4. Posted by Chris J Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:44 pm EDT

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    hate the giants, but love the mets, so if this is true...go giants? no no no...GO METS!!!!! (and cowboys).
  5. Bosoxinny
    5. Posted by Bosoxinny Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    I am a Sox fan who is a lifelong NYer. Santana didn't impress me too much last year pitching against the Sox. I was expecting a pitching duel with him on the mound. Didn't happen. He was pretty wild at the time. He's good, but the Mets shouldn't put all their stock in him. He can't pitch every game. That said, I do hope the Mets win big this year. They do deserve it, and so do their loyal fans.
  6. mustang_rider1214
    6. Posted by mustang_rider1214 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    I don't think the Mets are putting all their stock into Santana. After their collapse last year, they needed a new face to kinda put things in the past and move on. I don't agree with alot of people who are saying the Mets will win because of Santana. The Mets will win as a team. Yes, alot has to do with Santana. Why? Just as he did today, he was able to pitch 7 productive innings meaning that the bullpen gets more rest on days that he pitches. But what about John Maine? He can also go deep into games so now thats two days the bullpens don't have to be worked too hard. Pedro has brand new shoulder and he had a great spring. While he might not be able to go late into games, he is part of a great 1-2 combo with Santana. Hopefully, Perez and Pelfrey can be somewhat consistent and that makes for a great rotation. The bats are there and were always there. I think Pagan in the outfield is great; Beltran doubled twice today and didn't show any signs of pain in his knees and Wright (as usual) had a great game. The bottom of the order even hit well today. I putting my trust in Reyes that he will bounce back from his crappy second half last year and I'm all out of hope for Delgado. Does Keith Hernandez's jersey still fit him? Go get 'em Mets!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. boston garden
    7. Posted by boston garden Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:57 pm EDT

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    I thought everyone knew its Giants/Yankees and Jets/Mets....so that would be a Yankees title I believe.
  8. Bosoxinny
    8. Posted by Bosoxinny Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    It's nice to dream...isn't it?
  9. Dan Lowe
    9. Posted by Dan Lowe Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    With just a minute left before Opening [Mon]Day is over on the east coast, I just wanted to say:
    Jeff Passan 'Duk.
    But you'll do.
  10. Ali C
    10. Posted by Ali C Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:50 pm EDT

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    The Giants won the Super Bowl in 1991 and the Mets and Yankees both didn't win anything that year.
  11. Steely Dan
    11. Posted by Steely Dan Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:53 pm EDT

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    watch.....it actually means that the Giants will win this years' World Series, too!
  12. A Yahoo! User
    12. Posted by A Yahoo! User Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:50 am EDT

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    Are you an American? So why don't you join the team for the big win? LETS GO METS
  13. Joe
    13. Posted by Joe Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:42 pm EDT

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    mets will choke like they always do - go yanks
  14. Sean
    14. Posted by Sean Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:10 pm EDT

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    If the Mets had won in 1990 or 1991, this theory would at least make sense.
  15. robert c
    15. Posted by robert c Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:45 pm EDT

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    Never ceases to amaze me how much teams try to extract from the Yankees involving a trade.
    Case in point. Yankees wanted santana badly but not enough to give up their young studs. I was hoping he would just go away but not to the Red Sox or Mets. I knew both those teams would not have to give up as much as the Yankees. The Mets gave up much less to get Santana than the Yankees had to give up. Now all season long we will hear sports writers claiming what a mistake Yankees made to not get Santana. I predict that. Forgotten will be the asking price. I will love to see justice somehow.. Santana did not have a great second half last year. LET"S SE WHAT HAPPENS!
  16. carm c
    16. Posted by carm c Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:06 pm EDT

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    I would like to know who came up with that pile of crap....Mets -Jets......Giants -Yankees.....I 've been a Giants,,,Mets...guy for ever...I dont ride the Yankees bus......what I do notice..is when the Giants won..everybody that never wore Giants shiz...started wearing new shiz....same as wanna be Mets fans...there has always been a million Yankee FRONT RUNNERS...Al Lieter is a good friend of mine...I played on the same little league team...and he was always a Mets guy...Yankees just paid him good...and I dont buy into the Johan thing....but I do think 4 out of the five Mets starters will win 15 to 17 games...I believe that is called Balance.....and thats how the Mets will win this year....with consistancy,,and balance,,,not worried about Delgado......the hits ..steals and runs will be there.....home runs come when they come.....small ball...and good -d.....the pen looks fine....everybody blows saves.......Oh....and who cares about 26 World Series titles.....how many have you been alive for.....?....I remember 2 in the 70's...none in the 80's....4 well bought tiles in the 90's....and a very lucky 1 in 2000...where every game was decided by 1 run......thats 7......so as far as i'm concerned the chumps who wear those t-shirts that say got rings ..you only have 7....unless you were born in the 20's....then you would have all 26....me...I was born in May 69....Mets won in October.....and I was at 2 games in 86....so theres 2 ...and theres more to come.........loyalty....not FRONT RUNNING.....
  17. Yahoo is a loose Whore.
    17. Posted by Yahoo is a loose Whore. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:40 pm EDT

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    i am American, and i say to hell with the NY Mets, NY Yankees, and Boston Red Sox!
  18. Alvaro Espinoza Fan
    18. Posted by Alvaro Espinoza Fan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    purple reign, give me a break ugly bucktooth
  19. Dumba$$
    19. Posted by Dumba$$ Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    To patsdown_soxnext,
    Just because they played in those respective stadiums, that doesnt mean they should go together!
    I have always been a Mets/Giants/Rangers fan.
    If we go on Your philosophy, Then All Yankees fans should also be Mets fans too! I mean they did play at Shea while they were re-modelling Yankee Stadium in the 70's, And also for a few days when a big chunk of balcony fell in the 90's
    Besides, This is all just crazy fools trying to rile us Idiots up anyway!
    May we All have fun in 2008!!!
  20. yankeeboy
    20. Posted by yankeeboy Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:28 pm EDT

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    Go Yanks, Go Mets and F the Patriot/Red Sox Gay Nation
  21. dpearce
    21. Posted by dpearce Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:47 pm EDT

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    It is quite clear to me that the Mmets have the best all around team in the major leagues. Their lineup is good from top to bottom (minus Delgado who I have lost all hope for) and their pitching it great. I liked the comments about Santana and Maine being able to go deep into the game so our bullpen will get more rest. That was our biggest problem last year - our bullpen. This year, we should have a much better bullpen because of the starters who can go deep into the game and our bats are incredible. I wouldn't be surprised to see over 100 wins this year, and no, I am not pushing it. By the way the Rangers are ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised for them to make a great run in the playoffs and even take the cup home. I have watched every game this season and with our veteran leadership I have no doubt that we can take the cup just like we did in '94! Bring hockey back!!!
  22. dpearce
    22. Posted by dpearce Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:47 pm EDT

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    It is quite clear to me that the Mets have the best all around team in the major leagues. Their lineup is good from top to bottom (minus Delgado who I have lost all hope for) and their pitching it great. I liked the comments about Santana and Maine being able to go deep into the game so our bullpen will get more rest. That was our biggest problem last year - our bullpen. This year, we should have a much better bullpen because of the starters who can go deep into the game and our bats are incredible. I wouldn't be surprised to see over 100 wins this year, and no, I am not pushing it. By the way the Rangers are ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised for them to make a great run in the playoffs and even take the cup home. I have watched every game this season and with our veteran leadership I have no doubt that we can take the cup just like we did in '94! Bring hockey back!!!
  23. slondo1
    23. Posted by slondo1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Supreme baseball force? How many championships have you won this century? And how many do the Red Sox have. And how many 3-0 playoff series leads have the yanks blown? And how bad did the mets choke out of the playoffs last year? Yeah, supreme baseball force...
  24. Julio M
    24. Posted by Julio M Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:47 pm EDT

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    supreme baseball force THIS YEAR..who cares about the century..the 70's the 80's the 90's.. .we are in 2008... last year they were a great team who had an ugly collapse at the end.. this year again they will be a great team.. NY METS...
  25. sammyhawk
    25. Posted by sammyhawk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:54 pm EDT

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    Two things here:
    - I've been a Dodger fan forever. I quit going to Dodger-Mets games at Dodger stadium because there are more Mets fans than Dodger fans and they are the rudest fans ever. Obscene gestures and rude language in front of the kids. I don't hate the Mets, but the fans aren't very likable.
    - Now let's talk baseball. The Mets are a good mix of youngsters and some seasoned (not too seasoned) players. Santana is not the answer to everything, but it's not going to hurt to have him in the lineup. Wright, Reyes, Beltran,... will all make the Mets very competitive this year. It's always about staying healthy and not flaming out before the playoffs. All you can ask for is to be in the mix all year to make it interesting.

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