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CC Sabathia failed again in the playoffs, the Phillies beat the Brewers 5-2 in Game 2 of the NLDS, and Milwaukee is now just one defeat from the off-season.

After a weak showing in Game 1 of the National League Division Series, the Brewers were relying on their ace to help even the series before it shifted to Miller Park on Saturday.

But Sabathia, continuing his puzzling postseason pattern, allowed five runs, six hits and four walks over 3 2/3 IP, his shortest outing since April 11, when he still played for the Cleveland Indians. Sabathia, who also melted down twice against the Red Sox in the ALCS a season ago, has a 7.92 ERA in five career playoff appearances.

The Phillies got to him with a five-run second, which was set up in part by pitcher Brett Myers' tenacious at-bat that led to a walk, and keyed by Shane Victorino's grand slam. Sabathia finished with 98 pitches, so it shouldn't be a big deal for him to return for Game 5 — if the Brewers still are around.

That type of doubt is probably not what Doug Melvin wanted when the Crew's GM mortgaged part of his club's future by trading for Sabathia, who is expected to command anywhere between $100-$200 million on the free agent market this winter from a team other than Milwaukee.

Sabathia went 11-2 with a 1.65 ERA in 17 starts for the Brewers, who used him four times on three days of rest down the stretch in a desperate attempt to make the trade worth the sacrifice, reach the playoffs and, presumably, win there.

Other 'bits from Thursday's Brewers-Phillies Game 2:

The Brewers aren't hitting, either, scoring a total of three runs with seven hits in two games. Prince Fielder is 0-for-7 so far, grounding out as the potential tying run in his eighth-inning at-bat. It could be Cole Hamels and Myers, it could be the Brewers bats, it could be both.

Myers, a .116 career hitter coming in, had two stupendous at-bats against Sabathia, including a nine-pitch walk in the second that whooped the Phillies crowd into a frenzy. Two batters later, Sabathia hung a breaking ball and Victorino lined it into the stands in left for a 5-1 lead. Myers later had another long at-bat and a single.

Myers also pitched as he had before a recent slide, allowing a pair of runs on as many hits over seven innings. Myers and Hamels being on their games gives the Phils a huge advantage in any post-season series.

The teams move to Milwaukee for Game 3, with ancient lefty Jamie Moyer, a 16-game winner in the regular season, facing right-hander Dave Bush, who had a 3.50 ERA at Miller Park this season.

The Brewers won't have Ben Sheets available for this or any other series in the postseason because of a torn muscle near his right elbow. Sheets, like Sabathia, is a free agent soon.

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  1. LT
    1. Posted by LT Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:38 pm EDT

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    lol this is what happens when u send out the guy on 3 days rest 4 times in a row
  2. Chris
    2. Posted by Chris Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:25 pm EDT

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    I guess us Clevelanders new this all along. CC is money during the regular season and a total bust in the Postseason. Hope the one extra home game in the Postseason was worth trading the future away.
  3. True Blue Brew Crew!!
    3. Posted by True Blue Brew Crew!! Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    I disagree with LT's comment completely. It's convenient to make an assumption like that after the fact...Were you making the remark "This is what happens when you send the guy out on 3 days rest 3 times in a row" after he threw his dominant complete game, 0 er performance on Sunday to put the Brewers into the playoffs?? I would imagine not...or how about when he made his second consecutive start on 3 days rest earlier in the week and dominated as well? But when he goes out there for a FOURTH consecutive time, this horrible start was bound to happen, right? Your ignorance is astounding, and I'm sure CC would attest to that with his postgame comments responding to all the hindsight naysayers such as yourself.
  4. True Blue Brew Crew!!
    4. Posted by True Blue Brew Crew!! Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    Oh yea, here's CC's postgame response pulled directly from the AP write-up on Yahoo!: “I don’t think starting on three days’ rest had anything to do with it,” Sabathia said. “I just didn’t make pitches when I needed to.”
  5. Amans
    5. Posted by Amans Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    The crowd at CBP was amazing during Meyers' at bats. I think they played as big a role as Meyers did in rattling Sabathia that inning. It could have just been the fatigue or the playoff pressure, but I like to think that the vociferous crowd got to Sabathia all game long.
  6. Angell Express
    6. Posted by Angell Express Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    Yeah, CC didn't pitch well tonight but let's remember one thing. The Brew Crew wouldn't be in the playoffs without him. That said, where are the Brewer bats??? Their fielding has been just as bad as well. I'd be surprised if they'd win Game 3 at home.
  7. Philip C
    7. Posted by Philip C Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:09 pm EDT

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    4th. moyer is going to pwn the brewers. fielder's done nothing and their bullpen stinks. Dave Bush has no chance
  8. dot_rat
    8. Posted by dot_rat Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 pm EDT

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    ****. Posted by Chris Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:08 pm EDT Report Abuse
    I guess us Clevelanders new this all along. CC is money during the regular season and a total bust in the Postseason. Hope the one extra home game in the Postseason was worth trading the future away. *****
    Uh Uhhhh
    C.C. aint pitchin games three. or four
    so there might be two extra home games.
  9. SouthPhillyCliff
    9. Posted by SouthPhillyCliff Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    Come on now Mr. RETARDO I know youre there seeing in anguish and in pain claiming you would be on top now with CC on ZZZZZZ (yawn) I am now looking for a broom at Milwaukee!!! Go Phillies!!!!!
  10. Tadzio
    10. Posted by Tadzio Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:47 pm EDT

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    Phillies fan here, so I'm elated. But I just have to register a thought--a bit unfair to say Sabathia is "continuing his puzzling postseason pattern" and "also melted down twice against the Red Sox." It is not "puzzling" that a guy gets beat when he's pitching on short rest for the umpteenth time, so it is unfair to imply it is yet another "melt down." The guy has been a horse and deserves our respect. Milwaukee isn't the first team to complete a dramatic charge into the postseason, only to struggle once they get there, nor will they be the last. Moreover, this series isn't over yet. I know I won't take anything for granted before the Phils put a third 'W' in the books. Go Moyer...
  11. Jeff J
    11. Posted by Jeff J Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Yeah, for sure, the days rest issue had nothing to do with his performance. People put a lot of stock into pitch counts and the like, and it really doesn't have a large effect on how pitchers perform. Look at pitchers from the 70s, they didnt count pitches or concern themselves with numbers of days of rest.
    For sure, CC is a great pitcher, at least, in the regular season. He's got to learn how to pitch in October.
  12. Kevin D
    12. Posted by Kevin D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    It really doesn't matter if CC had three days or a weeks rest, he's a fast ball pitcher and the Mighty Phillies are an excellent fast ball hitting team. If out big guns, Utley, Howard and Burrell are not making contacts with a crafty left hander like CC, our right handers and switch-hitters will pick up the slack. Now, they are throwing a right handed pitcher at the Phillies on Saturday, you will see Utley and Howard wake up and begin knocking Bush out the game, unless they start intentionally walking our batters, especially Howard. Hey, we were swept last year, now it's time to take it out on the Brewers.
  13. Todd D
    13. Posted by Todd D Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:58 pm EDT

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    Hey CC heres an idea why dont you drop a few pounds and then you wont have these type of problems in the postseason. I mean this guy is so out of shape it isnt even funny. They have to take this guy to the nearest truck stop just to weight him. But thank you for all your great years in Cleveland but it really is time to lose some of that weight you want the money so you gotta give up the food man. GO TRIBE!!!
  14. halosix
    14. Posted by halosix Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    It looked like arm was tired. Brews used his arm sunday to get them in the playoffs. Mets used santana saturday. But we will never know if it would have affected him pitching in the first game. Dont blame CC. Without him your Brews would never be in the playoffs.
  15. kevin k
    15. Posted by kevin k Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:08 pm EDT

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    Without Sabathia, we would be watching the METS right now so you Brewers fans need to back off Sabathia. I had him in my fantasy baseball team during my fantasy championship and he was amazing along with Santana. He is not a machine and it is not unusual to see an ace have an off day especially after what he has done. Yes its the playoffs but so what, he is a human being. You gotta give the Philly hitters their credit. It's not like the Brewers' hitters are playing well either... ITS A TEAM GAME FOLKS.
  16. G.O.A.T.
    16. Posted by G.O.A.T. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    #4,5 that comment made by cc was coming from a man who doesn't make excuses, i respect that but we all know that pitching that many times in a short period had everything to do with it, if you don't know i wouldn't call it ignorant just naive. i can't recall a pitcher who has done that and done well. the sad part is the brewers had no choice, poor guy. cc is a great pitcher, i hate to see it go down like that. people knock him for his post season play, but he has been asked to do things not many other pitchers could, he has heart and he is dedicated to the game.
  17. G.O.A.T.
    17. Posted by G.O.A.T. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    it's a shame he is abused by his managers the way he is...if any pitcher on that team had what it took to play he wouldn't have been put in that situation. that's what happens when you have a garbage pitching staff...i'm sorry for all the brewers fans. sucks to finally make it and lose like that, i know its not over yet but they have a huge hill to climb now...
  18. Kris
    18. Posted by Kris Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    I don't fault CC, or our bullpen. All the phils scoring came in two innings. Three unearned runs in the first game and five on a bad inning by CC. Cory Hart has been horrible. So has just about every other guy that steps up to bat for the crew. I am glad they made the playoffs but man they have stunk for a month now. If any team can turn it around it is the young brewers.
    Phillies fans shouldn't be to confident. They aren't really that hot either. Bush can give up six in the first inning but is also capable of shutting them down for six. And we all know the phillies can give up runs withthe best of them.
  19. Kevin D
    19. Posted by Kevin D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    And let's not forget, we can score runs also with the best of them.
  20. Kenny
    20. Posted by Kenny Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    CC hasn't pitched a good playoff game yet. The only win he has was last year in a pathetic 5 inning performance against the yanks, and won only because Wang sucked worse. His next 2 he lost to Josh Beckett, the REAL best pitcher of 2007. Great picthers save their best for the playoffs. CC has yet to show anyone that he is great. What was Svuem thinking anyway? They were better off starting him on full rest in the 1st home game. Now CC may not get a chance to redeem himself.
  21. doug d
    21. Posted by doug d Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    hey, Sabathia GOT 'EM to the playoffs, at least. . . yeah, he came undone, but nobody on the crew is doing anything. . ."maybe next year" doesn't sound so bad. . .last year's flame-outs were the Phillies!
  22. he_is_cold_as_ice
    22. Posted by he_is_cold_as_ice Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    CC was a choke in Cleveland last year, and he is a choke for Milwaukee this year.
    Obviously fat boy can't take the pressure that comes with the playoffs. He should be thankful that Cy Young voting doesn't include playoff performances or he never would have won it last year.
    Even so, some big market team will ante up huge money for this guy, and he will choke for them as well.
  23. brandon c
    23. Posted by brandon c Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    I agree with #17, C.C is not going to make excuses. He is a professional with high integrity. But you simply can't expect a player to go out and reproduce that same type of success on the rest he's been getting. I'm surprised C.C won his last two starts. As for #21, its not about saving your best stuff for the playoffs, its about getting their first. It took the Brewers until the last day of the season to clinch. C.C has went beyond the call of duty. His teammates should've picked him up. You can't expect him to pitch a shutout every outing. If you Brewer fans don't want C.C he's more than welcome in Atlanta.
  24. jmauss821
    24. Posted by jmauss821 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    I can tell by the majority of the comments that the post-ers here have played as much baseball as most sports writers!!! Unless you have played some ball in some shape or form save your stupid posts. We should not be talking about CC at all. The Brewers bats have flat out stunk since the beginning of September. CC pitched fine after the Grand Slam. Dave Bush has pitched very well the last few months and if the Crew can actually put a few runs on the board they have a solid chance at home in game 3. CC's performance had nothing to do with pressure or being over pitched. He just was not as solid this time around. The offense has to do something once in awhile when he pitches.

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