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PHILADELPHIA — At the risk of sounding like the first chapter of a bad horror novel, it's a dark and gloomy night here in South Philly. The train ride down Broad Street was a somber one and there's a reserved feeling outside Citizens Bank Park before tonight's Game 5 — a do-or-die situation for the defending world champion Phillies. 

After the disappointment of Sunday's 7-4 loss to the Yankees, it's not hard to understand why that sentiment reigns and the natural reaction is to compare Brad Lidge's(notes) three-run meltdown to Mitch Williams' blown save in Game 6 of the 1993 World Series. Both rank among the biggest gut punches ever delivered to Philadelphia fans and both came from the arms of relievers who came into the World Series with a reputation for being shaky.

With the exception of a few knee-jerk reactionaries, the overwhelming opinion seems to be that Mitch Williams serving up that legendary three-run homer to Toronto's Joe Carter hurt much worse. I agree with that take, but thought I'd take it a bit further and break it down with a trio of arguments for both bottom-of-the-barrel moments.  

Why Mitch Williams in '93 was worse

1. It lost the World Series: This is easily the biggest trump card owned by either side. Wild Thing's down-and-in fastball was caught by Carter's bat, which sent it over the left-field fence for only the second homer to end a World Series. The '93 Phillies had no more life after the blast, whereas the '09 edition could come back and play the next day.  

2. Phils were leading at the time: After falling behind to Toronto 5-1 in the fifth inning, the Phillies scored five runs in the seventh to take a one-run lead. Williams could have forced a Game 7 with two more outs, a guarantee that didn't exist with Lidge.

(As much as the feeling in CBP suggested otherwise, there's nothing saying the Phillies definitely would have scored to win the game in the bottom of the ninth.)

3. Philly didn't have previous success: Should the Phillies go on to lose this Series, the '09 Fightins' fans will eventually be able to appreciate how much their team achieved just by successfully defending its '08 NL championship and reaching the Fall Classic for the second straight October. The '93 squad, meanwhile, was the only bright oasis in what was otherwise a dim 25-year period between World Series appearances. The team had a very short window of sucess and once Carter slammed it, there was no opening it back up. You can't say the same about this current core.

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Why Brad Lidge in '09 was worse

1. It came at home: The difference between '09 and '93?  Over 45,000 Philadelphians who paid hundreds of dollars to watch the horror and had their soaring hopes stunningly crushed after Pedro Feliz's(notes) tying home run in the eighth inning. 

2. It came at the hands of a New York team: With apologies to the fine people of Canada, Toronto-Philly isn't exactly New York-Philly. Preening Yankees fans might always be able to point toward Johnny Damon's double dash as a living moment of New York's baseball superiority and life near the Phillies-Yankees DMZ line in New Jersey suddenly got a lot tougher for those who prefer red.   

3. Expectations were higher: The 2009 crew did not enter the season like a bunch of happy go-lucky ballplayers who preferred the mullet. No, they entered the season as WFCs and the pressure to become the first National League team to repeat since the 1976 Reds was enormous. The only way to prove that this edition was better than '08s was with a World Series championship and Lidge's surrender — though it came against three of baseball's best — severely hurt those dreams. Unless Philadelphia can come through and win three straight, the prospect of almost evening up the World Series at 2-2 is going to hurt for awhile. 

Which meltdown do you think was worse?

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  1. James
    1. Posted by James Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:37 pm EST

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    Let's face it, they were both PATHETIC. End of story.
  2. Marco
    2. Posted by Marco Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:41 pm EST

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    stupid article, 93 lost the series....idiot...phils still had a chance to win in the bottom of the 9th...who pays these guys, a monkey could think of these stories
  3. Tony
    3. Posted by Tony Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:46 pm EST

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    not even close. Williams was far worse for a team that was a 1-year wonder. Yankees reign will not be a long one since Mariano is nearing the end of an amazing run of dominance.
  4. NorCal530
    4. Posted by NorCal530 Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:48 pm EST

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    I think everyone needs to leave Mitch Williams alone....his story has been hashed and rehashed over so many times its pathetic....The Phillies knew what they were getting when they got Lidge....perfect saves one year? A FLUKE...look what Pujols did to him in what? the 05 series? or was it 06? come on....seriously how can you even compare the two anyhow...Duk...this is pathetic
  5. BrianK
    5. Posted by BrianK Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:55 pm EST

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    There's not enough similarity here to merit comparison. '93 Mitch Williams lost the entire series, not just a critical game. He lost it on a home run, not an inning-long rally. '93 was a one-year fluke, whereas this year the Phillies are defending champions and have made the playoffs for three straight seasons, including two straight World Series appearances. Plus, Mitch Williams was wearing THE TIGHTEST pants ever worn in a professional baseball game.
  6. jimbo1058
    6. Posted by jimbo1058 Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:00 pm EST

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    Who cares? Its only baseball....
  7. al
    7. Posted by al Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:03 pm EST

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    Yes, both pathetic..
  8. penguinfan
    8. Posted by penguinfan Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:10 pm EST

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    agreed they are both pathetic and now will be goats forever!!!!
  9. BrianK
    9. Posted by BrianK Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:12 pm EST

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    Jimbo1058 - No one's asking you to discuss the '93 blown save or last night's blown game in the context of the American revolution, WWII, health care reform, or the war in Afghanistan. It's a baseball blog.
  10. Jeff
    10. Posted by Jeff Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:18 pm EST

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    Both were pathetic. Both were/are untrustable relievers. 2008 was an aberation in Lidge's career. Both will let you down when they are most needed. Few closer have the cahonies to do their job in the post season. We are all expecting a Rivera-like close. He is the exception, not the rule. Think about other so-called good relievers this year -- Nathan, Fuentes, Broxton -- they will let you down when you need them the most inthe playoffs. But Williams' was more painful.
  11. craig the hammer
    11. Posted by craig the hammer Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:25 pm EST

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    I think Lidge is the worst one after such a great 2008 he can't get me out this year !!!
  12. kjcontri
    12. Posted by kjcontri Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:31 pm EST

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    I heard Brad Lidge dressed as a closer for Halloween. Guess he shoulda keep the costume on for another day.
  13. jdc
    13. Posted by jdc Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:47 pm EST

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    Lidge was worse, I think he's making about 10 times the money Williams was making. Plus Lidge let Damon make him look bad. Trade the bum if the Phillies lose.
  14. Parlevous
    14. Posted by Parlevous Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:50 pm EST

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    The Yankees won because of their gamesmanship and that's all. It's BORING, but effective.
  15. Ryan M
    15. Posted by Ryan M Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:54 pm EST

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    How about Jose Mesa in 1997. :(
  16. Josh T
    16. Posted by Josh T Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:00 pm EST

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    @12 Hauged Up
    Classy all the way... you must be a Philthy fan.
  17. Michael S
    17. Posted by Michael S Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:30 pm EST

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    philly your city is getto trash at almost every corner , just like your fan base they have no respect for anything have some class and yes i live here it smells like rotten chicken and dead cats on every street go eagles till dallas slaps the stink off us.
  18. justin
    18. Posted by justin Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:45 pm EST

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    Mitch Williams serving the homer to Carter was worse. It ended the World Series. I dont blame Lidge for the game last night. It's Manuel's fault for having the shift on in the 9th inning of a tie ballgame. If the shift stays off, Damon doesnt get the free pass to 3rd base and Lidge wouldve pitched A-Rod differently instead of throwing him a gopher ball down the middle of the plate which he crushed to LF..
  19. Thius
    19. Posted by Thius Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:46 pm EST

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    I knew Lidge was a fraud when he was an Astro.
  20. uofagolfpro
    20. Posted by uofagolfpro Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:03 pm EST

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    yeah, wait 'til its over man. I usually like your stuff but this is garbage and I'm not even a Phils fan. This is a post-series- Jeff Passan article; not your forte duk. Stick to the funny, trivial stuff. Thats your forte
  21. uofagolfpro
    21. Posted by uofagolfpro Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:04 pm EST

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    yeah, wait 'til its over man. I usually like your stuff but this is garbage and I'm not even a Phils fan. This is a post-series- Jeff Passan article; not your forte duk. Stick to the funny, trivial stuff. Thats your forte
  22. aaron s
    22. Posted by aaron s Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:48 pm EST

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    When you serve up a Tater to end the World Series, that beats everything else. Maybe if they had covered third base instead of that stupid shift, which is hardly ever effective, then we wouldn't be talking about this. Of course, Damon would have scored anyways from second. And maybe if they didn't let Blanton take the mound in the first inning they would have been ahead sooner. And then maybe if they hadn't decided to put the spontaneous combustible closer on the mound during a TIE game we wouldn't be having this discussion. Wild Thang made it so nothing else mattered, becuz there was no more baseball to be played after his pitch. Not even close.
  23. wowjimi
    23. Posted by wowjimi Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:55 pm EST

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    worse is being hit by a pitch with bases loaded but the ump is asleep at the wheel , "huh?, what?"
  24. Steven F
    24. Posted by Steven F Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:57 pm EST

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    it was the mullet!
  25. Steven F
    25. Posted by Steven F Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:58 pm EST

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    it was the mullet

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