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Diagnosed with diabetes at age 18, Cubs broadcaster Ron Santo was told he had, at best, seven years to live. Saddled with gray expectations, he optimistically embarked on a pro baseball career that lasted until age 34. All of those seasons — save one — came on Chicago's North Side where Santo became one of the franchise's most popular players ever.

But despite significant evidence on his side, Santo's career accomplishments so far have not granted him entry into baseball's Hall of Fame. As he famously waits, hopes and [probably] prays for induction, he concurrently does the same for his favorite baseball team, which hasn't won in 100 years — in case you hadn't heard.

Q: Why are you such an optimist about the Chicago Cubs when they've given you so few reasons to be one over the years?

Ron Santo:
Well, that's not true; why I'm an optimist is because what they have done for me in my life. I've been a Cub all my life. I came up here when I was 20 years old and spent my whole career here in Chicago. I've always been an optimist, I believe you have to be in order to survive, to be honest with you — in health, with what I've been through. That's the way I am. I'm a Cub fan and I sit up here and I know when we have a good team, I know when we're struggling and it affects me just like any other fan and I just happen to show it on the radio. I can't help it.

Q: If you could pin your popularity on one reason, would that be it?

RS: I think so, yeah. I think that's it and also playing here for 15 years, and the popularity also has to do with what I've been through in my life with diabetes — losing my legs, open heart surgery, a little cancer bout. I think I've inspired a lot of people and I'm one if I get a letter and someone's in serious shape, I'll call them. I relate to these people.

Q: Sometimes, on the air, you seem to lose yourself in the moment — like when Brant Brown dropped that ball against the Brewers in Milwaukee in ‘98. Are there times you forget you're on the air?

A: Then, I definitely forgot. It was the emotion of the game, knowing how big it was. I watched the play and when he dropped that ball, my heart dropped. I didn't even realize that I went, "Oh, no!" until the next day. When I heard it for the first time, I swear to God, I thought somebody died. The guy on the other end of the phone interviewing me on the radio was laughing about it, and I'm just getting over this game. It's still in me, and I go, "Oh, you think that's funny? Well, maybe you think this is funny. Boom! [hangs up imaginary phone]."

Q: OK with you if Mark Cuban buys the Cubs?

RS: First of all, I'd really rather not discuss that. Has nothing to do at all with Mark Cuban or anybody. I just don't want to make a statement. I'm not going to pick out someone and go, "Yeah, I want him" to buy the team — because that's not the way I feel. I feel like the [other MLB] owners and Bud Selig will pick the right guy because they know how important the Cubs are.

Q: They might go for a billion dollars — are they worth it?

RS: I've never heard of anybody in baseball paying that much. ... I know what Sam Zell's doing. He bought the Tribune and he's got a lot of debt to pay. He's the first one to talk about selling the ballpark and the franchise. If they were to do it that way, I would not feel good about it. Whoever buys this club — and will it go for $1 billion? I doubt it — but whoever buys it, would want to buy the ballpark with it. I believe they could get anywhere from $800 million to $1 billion.

Q: You ever thought about being a part of an ownership group?

RS: No. I'm just a Cub.

Q: Are you familiar with the Mexican wrestler/superhero El Santo?

RS: Who? What's his name?

Q: El Santo. He would wrestle in their professional leagues and then be a movie star hero and, you know, foil bank robberies or fight vampires and Aztec mummies. Not ringing a bell?

RS: Nope. Well, first of all with him being Mexican and me being Italian, no. I do know that "santo" means "saint" in Mexican, and it means the same in Italian.

Q: Did you destroy Sammy's boom box? Would you have, if someone else didn't?

RS: I have no comment on that.

Q: Interesting. Are Gold Gloves really made of gold?

RS: No [laughs]. Gold Gloves are painted. They're very nice, they're gorgeous. I've noticed the improvement [in quality] since my time.

Q: Why was your season (1974) with the Sox so miserable?

RS: It wasn't the organization at all. It was just a very tough adjustment for me. I wanted to stay in Chicago because of my family. I wanted to play, maybe, two more years. I turned down a lot of clubs. I knew the Sox had Bill Melton and I wasn't ready for DH'ing. I "had" to play third; I couldn't just DH, no way, I told ‘em. Chuck Tanner said that I'd be playing third, first — where Dick Allen was. I took their offer, but I lost my enthusiasm for baseball — not because I was a Sock — but I just didn't feel the same. At Wrigley Field, I move [emotions] up a notch.

Q: What was Dick Allen like?

RS: Dick was a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He could be the nicest guy in the world. He just had moments.

Q: The first season you were eligible for the Hall, so few people voted for you that they dropped your name from the ballot. Was that the most disappointing thing about it?

RS: I was shocked that I only got 4 percent of the vote. And I kept my mouth shut for the first time. I didn't say anything. It took me a while to get over that. When I was leaving this game, they brought up "Hall of Fame" and stuff. Five years later, they put me back on the ballot and the board of directors apologized, but now it's 10 years after I played. So my timing for the Hall of Fame, right there, hurt me.

Q: If the Cubs of your era go to a World Series just one time, are you in the Hall of Fame already?

RS: I don't know that. I can't say that. Let me say this. I believe very strongly — and I never brought this up as a player — but I put up, I feel, Hall of Fame numbers with diabetes. If I didn't have diabetes — nobody realizes that, when I was diagnosed at 18, even the doctors didn't know what to do about diabetes. I took insulin but I didn't have anything to check [insulin/blood sugar] and I played with it and got through 15 years. In that era, that was the best pitching in baseball history.

David Brown is a regular contributor to Big League Stew and writes Morning Juice, which runs Monday-Friday in the a.m. Answer Man is a regular feature on BLS.

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  1. Mr. F.
    1. Posted by Mr. F. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm EDT

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    It is shocking to me that El Santo is not as well known as Ron Santo. "Great Santini," a good movie. Don't forget Santino Corleone, he was too tough for his own good, however. They massacred my boy....
  2. Barrett K
    2. Posted by Barrett K Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    I didn't know "Mexican" was a language, Mr. Santo.
  3. hokumstomper
    3. Posted by hokumstomper Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    I love Ron Santo. But, man, is it difficult, if not downright painful, listening to him call games on the radio.
  4. Kyle S
    4. Posted by Kyle S Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:55 pm EDT

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    I love listening to him on the radio. he may not be pretty to listen to, but he is the 'color man' and he sure adds color. put this guy in the hall, and win a world series for him this year!
  5. Carlos Rubi
    5. Posted by Carlos Rubi Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:55 pm EDT

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    The second El Santo link is incorrect. That's actually his son, "El Hijo del Santo" -- or "The Son of the Santo."
    Please correct.
  6. the hero
    6. Posted by the hero Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

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    maybe he ain't "politically correct: but he sur e is fun to listen to.
  7. Glela D
    7. Posted by Glela D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    in my opinion Ron Santo is # 1 he is one of the truest cub fans i've ever known. God Bless you Ron from a 77 year old cub fan in Califonia
  8. zubee
    8. Posted by zubee Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:49 pm EDT

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    If Ernie Banks is Mr. Cub, then Ron Santo is a close relative. Think of the Cubs and Ron Santo is a fixture. Belongs in the Hall of Fame a long time ago, and is great to listen to on the radio. It would be great to see Ron Santo on a float in a championship parade.
  9. Head
    9. Posted by Head Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm EDT

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    Santo means everything to Cubs fans but enough already with pushing him for the Hall. Just because Mazeroski made it with ordinary stats doesn't mean their standards should be lowered. At least Maz had a big October home run. You never hear Dodgers fans whining about Maury Wills not being in the Hall, and he literally changed the game with his speed and daring on the basepaths, and has the World Series championship rings to back it up.
  10. donkeysnail
    10. Posted by donkeysnail Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    there isn't a hall of fame out there that Santo shouldn't be in!
  11. Head
    11. Posted by Head Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm EDT

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    Santo was just an even poorer man's less productive and less successful version of Sal Bando. It's great that he's fought & oversome the illness(es), but the hall of fame isn't their to cry for his health, it's there to honor the top achievers in Major League baseball, which is why Santo will never be there unless he pays admission to see the truly great players that've been enshrined.
  12. Johnny
    12. Posted by Johnny Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:43 pm EDT

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    If Santo makes it, that's four players plus a manager from a team that never won anything.
  13. Kirk
    13. Posted by Kirk Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:51 pm EDT

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    he seems like a bitter old man to me. i don't like this interview at all.
  14. jhe
    14. Posted by jhe Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    JWT and Kirk are idiots. Dispite his diabetes, Santo was the best third baseman in the National League when he played - every year! Study the stats before you make stupid statements.
  15. Reginald J
    15. Posted by Reginald J Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:35 pm EDT

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    I watched him play and he was a Great 3rd baseman. He is a great man and he deserves to be in the hall of fame. Shame on anybody that is critical of him because of his shortcomings on the radio. At least he was better than Harry Carey!! Put him in!!
  16. jim c
    16. Posted by jim c Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm EDT

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    I grew up in Indpls, I had the chance to pick my team. i picked the Cubs in the summer of 1969. Since then, I have had the privilege of living in Chicago, outside Chicago, and today in southern CA. But, I always go back to my first game at Wrigley, Santo was playing like there was no tomorrow. The folks around me, buying my hotdogs and pizza (Santo's pizza, I think) b/c it was my 1st game (1st big league game not to mention my 1st Cubs game). The wind blew out that day and 2 homers came over the fence to left field. A big (fat) taxi driver was sitting in front of me and asked (forceably removed is the accurate description) the guy in front of him along the fence/wall to change places with me. After all, it was my 1st game. I was 12 years old. I was able to sit on in the 1st row in the bleachers at my 1st game. The taxi driver even bought me a beer. Did I say I was 12 years old? I had a sip, he drank the rest.
    Today a White Sox fan is the temporary owner of the Cubs. Sam's a great guy. He should be in the bleachers today. The bums would like him and he is sure to buy them a few beers. I only wish I could be there to share to fun.
  17. Rampage
    17. Posted by Rampage Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    I like Ronny. He is very entertaining on the radio. He sounds like a fan who happens to be a color commentator. He seems to be the Harry Caray of the new millennium. Yes, it can be annoying, at times. However, the MOST entertaining radio color commentator of all times was Dick Butkus on Chicago Bears Radio (WGN 720 AM) during the Super Bowl XX run in 1985.
    Unfortunately, I don’t remember seeing him play, but his stats show that he was one of the best third basemen of his time. Not to mention, anyone who could face down the phenomenal pitching talent he did with the medical problems he had was amazing.
  18. Big O
    18. Posted by Big O Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:19 am EDT

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    I'm no Cubs fan, but Santo should be in the Hall of Fame, diabetes or no. He put up great numbers in a pitcher-friendly era, won five gold gloves at third base, and was a nine-time all-star. One of the top ten greatest third basemen ever. His work as a broadcaster is just gravy; he was definitely great enough to be honored.

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