Position Primer: Outfielder

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Someday the top tier at this position will be reserved exclusively for Uptons, but that day hasn’t arrived just yet. For now, there are six outfielders in the first tier, and all of them are taken within the first two rounds of an average draft. Another 11 outfielders are off the board by the end of Round 4. This is clearly a talent-rich position.

It’s so deep, in fact, that many of you will avoid outfielders in the early rounds altogether, and you’ll deride the owners who draft them. There’s not really a severe drop-off in the talent pool at any point – it’s a gradual descent from tier to tier – and there are always useful, undrafted players who emerge during the season. If you wait for the third tier outfielders, that decision probably won’t cost you a title. You’ll also find that the middle tiers are loaded with power/speed threats. Nine Major League players delivered 20/20 seasons in 2008, and seven were outfielders. Matt Kemp (18/35), Johnny Damon (17/29) and Torii Hunter (21/19) were awfully close, too.

Still, the outfielders who are typically selected in the opening rounds of a draft are exceptional fantasy assets – think 30/30 or 40/20 or 20/40 – and they’ll earn their ADPs. We’re playing a game in which you’re ultimately trying to assemble the best collections of stats; you can win the position matchups and still lose the war. (Craig Falzone has convincingly demonstrated this fact in prior years, while trying to prove other things). If you’re drafting at the back half of the first round – where you’ve got no shot at the elite shortstops and third basemen anyway – then you can’t afford to be a positional elitist with every pick. Don’t dismiss the top tier outfielders, leaving them for the owners who’ve already taken Hanley Ramirez and David Wright.

In later rounds, you’ll find that this position caters to basically any draft preference. If you’re interested in category specialists, try Adam Dunn (Yahoo! ADP 73.2) or Willy Taveras (182.3). If you’re comforted by the presence of reliable veterans, target Raul Ibanez (125.0) or Pat Burrell (168.5). If you tend to draft only high-upside young players – and there’s almost no penalty for that approach in a 12-team public league – then get Jay Bruce (97.7) or Justin Upton (173.0).

Justin deserves some attention here, because he won’t fit neatly into any of the categories below – his position rank and ADP are reasonable, and he no longer qualifies as a prospect. He’s also off to a terrific start for Arizona this spring (6-for-15, one steal), and he held his own in 417 plate appearances last season at age 20 (15 HR, .250/.353/.463). If he would have spent last year as a member of the Tucson Sidewinders, he would have been the youngest player at Triple-A. That’s no small detail. Upton is actually younger than every prospect we’ll be hyping in the outfield primer, except for Travis Snider. Don’t overlook him simply because the name seems old. The Upton brand is strong, and there’s plenty of growth potential.

Outfielder – Tiers


Grady Sizemore
Ryan Braun
Josh Hamilton
B.J. Upton
Carlos Beltran
Alfonso Soriano


Manny Ramirez
Carlos Quentin
Carlos Lee
Carl Crawford
Ichiro
Jason Bay
Nick Markakis
V. Guerrero
C. Granderson
Matt Kemp
Matt Holliday
Jacoby Ellsbury
Alex Rios


Bobby Abreu
Corey Hart
Nate McLouth
Shane Victorino
Alexei Ramirez
Torii Hunter
Hunter Pence
M. Ordonez
Adam Dunn
Jay Bruce
Ryan Ludwick
Jermaine Dye
Nelson Cruz
Raul Ibanez
L. Milledge
Johnny Damon


Brad Hawpe
Milton Bradley
Andre Ethier
Vernon Wells
Chris Young
Jayson Werth
Conor Jackson
Pat Burrell
Justin Upton
Xavier Nady
Denard Span
Rick Ankiel
Hideki Matsui
Elijah Dukes
C. Maybin
Adam Jones
Delmon Young
Randy Winn
Coco Crisp


Mark DeRosa
Shin-Soo Choo
M. Cuddyer
Aaron Rowand
Adam Lind
Fred Lewis
J.D. Drew
Willy Taveras
Jeff Francoeur
Mike Cameron
Luke Scott
Travis Snider
Carlos Gomez
Jack Cust
Nick Swisher
Jose Guillen
J. Hermida
Gary Sheffield
Jason Kubel
Ty Wigginton
Ben Francisco
Ryan Church
David DeJesus
Michael Bourn
Felipe Lopez
Kendry Morales
Brian Giles
Colby Rasmus
Juan Rivera
Eric Byrnes
Ken Griffey Jr.
S. Schumaker


Chris Dickerson
Garret Anderson
Melky Cabrera
Juan Pierre
Dexter Fowler
F. Gutierrez
Travis Buck
K. Fukudome
Daniel Murphy
Marlon Byrd
David Murphy
Austin Kearns
Andruw Jones
Ryan Spilborghs
Josh Willingham
Chase Headley
Jody Gerut
Cody Ross
Nyjer Morgan
Matt Joyce
A. McCutchen
Mark Teahen
Chris Duncan
Josh Anderson
Nate Schierholtz
Gary Matthews Jr.
Scott Hairston
Jerry Owens
Ryan Sweeney
Steven Pearce
Willie Harris

Top 5 Outfielder – Overall

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1. Grady Sizemore – Only needs to rediscover his .290 stroke to become a full-meal roto deal 1. Ryan Braun – At age 25, Braun already has a pair of 30-homer seasons to his credit, and the career average is .301 1. Grady Sizemore – Statistical marvel was the only outfielder to compile 100-plus runs, 30 homers and 30 steals last year 1. Grady Sizemore – Four-category overlord, deeper stat profile suggests an average rebound
2. Ryan Braun – His power binges are already tales of lore in fantasy circles 2. Grady Sizemore – He’s delivered four straight 20/20 seasons, and always reaches triple-digits in runs scored 2. Ryan Braun – Hebrew Hammer still hasn’t peaked – 45 homers, 120 RBI not out of the question 2. Ryan Braun – Late rib injury cost him monster numbers in 2008; an MVP waiting to happen
3. Josh HamiltonThe Natural One 3. Josh Hamilton – An elite power hitter in an outstanding lineup, batting behind Kinsler and Young. He’ll contend for HR and RBI crowns 3. Josh Hamilton – Staves off injury imp and another significant power growth should be expected – 40-plus HR reachable 3. Josh Hamilton – Needs to step it up on the road (.263 average, .448 slugging), but the Arlington numbers are insane
4. Alfonso Soriano – He’s not a 40/40 man anymore, but there’s at least another 30/20 campaign left in him 4. B.J. Upton – Postseason power/speed display was plenty impressive (7 HR, 6 SB); recovery from shoulder surgery is key spring story 4. B.J. Upton – Bum wing squelched power under double-digits last year, but 20-50 potential mouth-watering 4. B.J. Upton – Power returned in the playoffs (seven homers), and now the shoulder is fixed
5. B.J. Upton – The speed never left, and the power returned in ’08 postseason (7 HR in 16 games) 5. Carlos Beltran – Nothing wrong with a line like this: 116 R, 27 HR, 112 RBI, 25 SB, .284 AVG 5. Alfonso Soriano – Injury concern labels him a minor risk but across-the-board reward should be mammoth 5. Carlos Beltran – Most underappreciated five-category guy in the majors

Top 5 Outfielder – Undervalued
Brandon Funston Andy Behrens Brad Evans Scott Pianowski
1. Andre Ethier – Likely to hit No. 3 in front of Manny – OPS was 1.100 after Manny came on board 1. Torii Hunter – He’ll go 50 picks after Corey Hart, but the projections are similar 1. Magglio Ordonez – Steady thoroughbred’s pop is slowly subsiding, but .300-100-90 return deserves to be lauded 1. Carl Crawford – Blame last year on the hamstring and finger; your one chance to get him on the cheap
2. Lastings Milledge – No. 146 ADP for freshly-seasoned top prospect who hit .318 with 7 HR and 11 SB in final 52 games of ’08 seems like quite a bargain 2. Curtis Granderson – Tigers leadoff hitter goes outside the top 50 overall, but another 20-homer, 120-run season wouldn’t surprise 2. Nelson Cruz – Will prove Quad-A label is undeserved – sick .347 BA, 37 HR, 24 SB in 383 Triple-A at-bats last year 2. Andre Ethier – Went bonkers when Manny hit town last year (.368/.448/.649); there’s a batting title in Ethier’s future
3. CoCo Crisp – Still only 29, could push .290, 100 R and 25 SB leading off every day in KC 3. Johnny Damon – Another strong candidate for 100 runs and 20-plus steals, yet he falls to Round 12 3. Raul Ibanez – The Magglio of the East should yield terrific results in new digs – .290-25-100-85 upside discount at pick 115 3. Mike Cameron – You’ll take an average hit but he fills the other four categories at a bargain-basement price (ADP: 318)
4. Justin Upton – Former No. 1 overall draft pick closed ’08 with .919 OPS in September – he already has as many SB (1) this spring as he had last year 4. Nelson Cruz – Check his projected spot in the batting order, then look at the names above him. The setup is ideal 4. Andre Ethier – Growing power and batting third in front of Manny in robust Dodgers lineup means he will build on breakout ’08 4. CoCo Crisp – Breakfast cereal never really fit in The Hub; he can anonymously regain 2004-05 form in KC
5. Jermaine Dye – Has gone on a prolonged tear in each of the past two seasons where he’ll carry a fantasy squad – 50 HR in past 221 games 5. CoCo Crisp – Leading off for KC, he’ll be useful in at least two categories. Crisp has stolen 20 bases four times 5. Elijah Dukes – Should be viable in runs, homers, steals and arrests – 20/20 candidate going after pick 260 5. Randy Winn – Let others chase the buzz players; you beat them with the boring veterans (The Ibanez All-Stars) that constantly return a profit

Top 5 Outfielder – Overvalued
Brandon Funston Andy Behrens Brad Evans Scott Pianowski
1. Matt Holliday – Y! ADP in the mid-30s is about right, but I still see many taking him inside the top 20 picks 1. Matt Holliday – An excellent hitter in any park, but he was Ruthian in Colorado – check the splits 1. Carl Crawford – Swipe potential once again driving up perceived value into top 30 – he’s a pricier Jacoby Ellsbury 1. Alfonso Soriano – Age, health concerns, declining bags, I won’t consider him in Round 2
2. Alex Rios – Oft-top 50 pick is already 28, but has yet to put it all together – has topped thresholds of 20 HR, 100 R or 20 SB only once 2. Manny Ramirez – At his current ADP (27.0), we’re assuming commitment and contentedness 2. Vladimir Guerrero – The now 34-year-old Vlad an enhanced injury risk with every passing year; skills showing signs of erosion 2. Jay Bruce – Just .190 against lefties, just 4-for-10 on the bases? He’s not a superstar yet
3. Chris Young – Seriously, you won’t lose much by taking Mike Cameron more than 100 picks later 3. Vernon Wells – Hamstring issues have resurfaced, yet he’s going a few rounds ahead of safer, similar alternatives 3. Matt Holliday – Change of scenery and managers should drive numbers downward – a fourth-round player at a second-round price 3. Ryan Ludwick – Heckuva story but it has outlier written all over it; HR/FB rate likely to drop and he doesn’t have the profile of a .299 hitter
4. Vernon Wells – Be it a slump, injury or both, I no longer trust him to hold it together for 150+ games 4. Michael Bourn – If the player hits .237, then the steals aren’t cheap 4. Hunter Pence – Borderline top-25 outfielder based on ADP; needs to trim 51.7 GB% to live up to hype 4. Hideki Matsui – Wheels are shot and force him to DH; unlikely to last a full season, be it for health or production reasons
5. Vladimir Guerrero – The same as Wells (above), but to a lesser extent 5. Vladimir Guerrero – Not dramatically overvalued (ADP 37.6), but the knee remains a worry and he’s going well ahead of Markakis, Kemp, Rios and Granderson 5. Nate McLouth – Sketchy minor league track record and peripherals suggest homer ceiling was reached last year 5. Delmon Young – Ten homers, .405 slugging? That’s not the way to beat through the outfield gridlock

Top 5 Outfielder – Prospects
Brandon Funston Andy Behrens Brad Evans Scott Pianowski
1. Cameron Maybin – Has 20/40 future upside and an immediate spot in Marlins outfield 1. Cameron Maybin – Classic five-tool talent, Maybin definitely impressed in September (16-for-32, 4 SB). Expect decent power, plenty of steals 1. Colby RasmusSkip Schumaker’s shift to second paves way for balanced commodity to play everyday – 20-20 seasons on the horizon 1. Cameron Maybin – Slow spring might bring price down; still, 15 homers and 30 steals likely out of the box
2. Travis Snider – Big power prospect hit .301 in 24 games for Jays in ’08 at age 20 (youngest in AL) 2. Travis Snider – The 21-year-old is having a strong spring, and could reach his age in homers this year. May not have mastered LHPs just yet 2. Matt LaPorta – Outside shot to break with senior club, but another few months of seasoning anticipated after cool Dominican Winter League performance 2. Travis Snider – Wasn’t overmatched in late-season trial (.301/.338/.466) but needs to trim strikeouts
3. Jason Heyward –Not yet 20, he’s drawing comparisons to Dave Winfield and may be only a year away from Atlanta 3. Colby Rasmus – It’s his second straight year in the prospects section of the OF Primer. We’ve never had a three-peat. Someday he’ll go 20/20, we swear 3. Dexter Fowler – Toolsy centerfielder already has big league leather but needs to refine swing/discover power at Triple-A 3. Colby Rasmus – Injuries held him back in 2008 but lofty ceiling remains; getting shot to win left-field job
4. Colby Rasmus – Physically, he’s a complete package. Mentally, not so much 4. Andrew McCutchen – Still just 22, McCutchen is ready defensively and should debut in ’09. Stole 34 bases at Triple-A in ’08 4. Andrew McCutchen – Similar to Rasmus/Fowler long-term statistical contributions, he could push McLouth to left by midseason 4. Dexter Fowler – Dynamic speed, keen eye, thin air, how can this go wrong?
5. Matt LaPorta – Once he figures out how to better handle the off-speed junk, he’ll hit 30 HR annually 5. Dexter Fowler – Hit .335/.431/.515 at Double-A last season with nine homers and 20 steals. Clearly the Rockies’ CF of the future, if not the present 5. Austin Jackson – Uninspiring Melky/Gardner combo in center suggests uber-athletic youngster might puncture lineup with strong first-half at Triple-A 5. Andrew McCutchen – Output hasn’t caught up to raw skills yet; needs another summer of seasoning

Andy Behrens has written for ESPN.com, the Chicago Sports Review, NBA.com, the Chicago Reader and various other publications. In all likelihood, Andy owns more Artis Gilmore memorabilia than you. Send Andy a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast. Send Andy a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
Updated Mar 9, 10:14 pm EDT
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    Vanger Thu Mar 19, 2009 01:29 am PDT Report Abuse
    #1 most undervalued outfielder this year will be David DeJesus. He will most likely be hitting 3rd in the KC lineup this year giving him almost twice as much RBI opportunities. He will be following Coco Crisp and Mike Aviles in the line-up as opposed to a combination of Ross Gload, John Buck and Tony Pena Jr. If this was the case last year he would have had around 130 RBIs. His BABIP was over .400 last year and was very consistantly so. Plus he will be batting in front of Guillen(ehh), Jacobs, and Gordon, so he will still score a lot of runs. My DDJ 2009 forecast:
    .305 BA, 70 R, 15 HR, 105 RBI, 5 SB.

    He most likely will go undrafted in your league, so if you don't believe me, you'll still have a shot at him mid-season. Just put him on your watch list.
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    Jason S Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:00 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Jayson Werth could be nice this year. Went 20/20 in only 418 at bats last year.
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    Hummus Mon Mar 16, 2009 06:53 pm PDT Report Abuse
    okay so does everyone think manny is not going to want to play? i mean he is first tier no doubt, he was #3 overall last season, am i missing someting? an injury? i dont think this current injury is serious
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    Matt Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:49 pm PDT Report Abuse
    mikelaw98102, if you've been drafting Soriano for the past 5 years, that means you had him during his 40-40 season. He slumped last year and still hit 30-20. Talk about disappointing.
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    Josh Sun Mar 15, 2009 09:57 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Elijah Dukes is a 90R, 25HR, 90RBI, 20SB guy and he's a 2 star outfielder? For his ADP, no question, I'd rather have him over Markakis. I think I can sarifice the AVG if it means drafting him 5 rounds later than Markakis (who's ridiculously rated as a 4 star OF).
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    Bettman's Nightmare Sun Mar 15, 2009 08:05 am PDT Report Abuse
    I agree with Justin's post about Matt Holliday; the only thing that needs to happen is for their to be a couple of solid bats in front of him. Ryan Sweeney proved last year and is proving this spring that he can get on base consistently, and there is enough talent and power among the remaining hitters (provided Eric Chavez can play at least part of the year) to keep pitchers honest and provide another good bat in front of him. People talk about McAfee as if a person has never hit 30 HR's while playing there.
    Second, of all the OF's overvalued in this world, I think B.J. Upton is the most egregious example. What are we looking for out of him, honestly? How does a power surge in the postseason translate to whispers of a 30-40 season? As Yahoo experts have said themselves, you DO NOT draft for upside early. I had the luxury (curse) of owning B.J. Upton last year when you all were falling all over yourselves predicting a 30-30 season out of him. Based on his plate discipline, his lineup (as hit or miss as they come, with the exception of Crawford), and his history, the expectations should be no higher than 15 HR's, 40 SB's. A couple fewer homers and you have a less reliable Ichiro with a weaker batting average. Save your $, or your draft picks. Watch someone else pass up middle or corner infield in the first couple of rounds.
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    JP Sat Mar 14, 2009 06:55 am PDT Report Abuse
    I agree with Ray on this one. John Mayberry Jr. is looking really good this spring. He has the potential to take playing time away from Werth or Ibanez if Charlie Manuel doesn't send him to Triple-A...

    Your right about Brown and Taylor as well. If these guys develop the way they are projected to, along with Marson, Donald, Carrasco and others... the phillies depth this season could be their ticket back to the World Series.
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    ray Thu Mar 12, 2009 03:09 pm PDT Report Abuse
    can i get some recognition for john mayberry please hes gonna make the phillies this year and surprise people. just look at what he is doing to spring training, putting up the same numbers as ryan howard with a better average i believe. just wait til the phillies outfield consists of mike taylor, dom brown, and john mayberry. dear god even the possibility just seems unfair
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    Money in the Bank Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:45 am PDT Report Abuse
    Steve Pearce = HR Masher!!!! 5 Star Performer!!! 30-35 HR Guarantee!!!
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    Brock Thu Mar 12, 2009 08:54 am PDT Report Abuse
    Ellsbury is a second tier OFer ... ??? I think not
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff Lee Majors Thu Mar 12, 2009 04:47 am PDT
    Yeah, pre-rank is a huge influence on ADP. A-Rod is at 15.97 at MDC right now. They look at the previous week of drafts, I think, so his ADP is still affected by pre-surgery activity.
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    Rob AD Wed Mar 11, 2009 08:50 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Somehow I doubt that there are a lot of people drafting Holliday that early here, given that the Yahoo ADP for him is 36.5, thanks I assume to the ranking that Yahoo gives him. Its worth keeping in mind that while places like Mockdraft Central do help track trends, their own format often affects their observations. I'm betting that A-Rod is still drafted mostly in the first round, despite the fact that his injury puts him in the 3rd round at best, partially just because the drafting software still ranks him in the top 5.
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    Justin Wed Mar 11, 2009 07:05 pm PDT Report Abuse
    That's fair, maybe not a first round guy...what bothered me was "a fourth round talent at a second round price". That's just ridiculous. If he does put up the line i am arguing for, he should be a top 20 player.
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff Lee Majors Wed Mar 11, 2009 06:27 pm PDT
    The over/undervalued thing is really just about ADP. Over at Mock Draft Central, Holliday is going at pick 13 or 14 overall. And if you're picking him late in R1 or early in R2, then it seems to me you're expecting something unreasonably close to the '06/'07 numbers, that's all. In those years he was a lot more valuable than 100-30-100-.300. An interesting player for sure.
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    mrpinkwaterz Wed Mar 11, 2009 05:34 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Holliday's away splits have increased every year...
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    Justin Wed Mar 11, 2009 05:32 pm PDT Report Abuse
    i meant 81 games in Coors, apologies
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    Justin Wed Mar 11, 2009 05:24 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I didn't accuse anyone of calling Holliday "not a good hitter"...what i said was i believe some of you are wrong in touting him as "overvalued". Yes his projections would be higher with 82 games in Coors, but the guy has hit above .300 on the road the past 2 seasons, and, as the article i cited shows, a lot of the premier hitters prefer hitting at home, so i feel it's safe to assume he will hit at least .310, .315. He also sported a 93% succession rate of stealing bases last year, so i also think it's safe to assume they'll let him run a bit. I guess where we disagree is, i feel he's a lock for a .300-30-100rbi-100run-15-20sb season, where as you and some others believe it is "within reach". Nobody thought Soriano would be as good hitting in RFK, yet he went 40/40, although you can argue that it was a contract year...oh, but wait, so is Matt Holliday this year.
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    Adam F Wed Mar 11, 2009 05:14 pm PDT Report Abuse
    how did ichiro avoid being spoken about in this whole line of 95 thoughts?
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff pianow Wed Mar 11, 2009 04:34 pm PDT
    YM: The starting pitcher primer will be out tonight at some point.
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff Lee Majors Wed Mar 11, 2009 04:16 pm PDT
    Also, I'm completely ignoring the stars, just so you know. Think of them as decoration. Check the header: "Outfield - Tiers." It does not say "Outfield - Stars."
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    Rob AD Wed Mar 11, 2009 03:50 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Barbackbmb, you may not like stolen bases, but suffice it to say that a player who can hit 20 homers with a mediocre average with no stolen bases is waiver wire material, while a player who can hit 20 homers with a mediocre average and 40 stolen bases is top 20 material. You have to get your steals somewhere, and with a few exceptions, most of those are in middle infield and outfield with even bigger penalties in the power stats. Having B.J. Upton means that I might not be able to free up my other outfield spots for power hitters that don't steal bases or take a power hitting 2nd baseman/shortstop.
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff Lee Majors Wed Mar 11, 2009 03:50 pm PDT
    OK, I'll take the abuse on BJ. But when we say he can go 20/40, it's not like we're not projecting numbers that he's never reached. He just needs to hit the 20 and steal the 40 in the same season. The guy is only 24, and he played with an injury that compromised his power last year. You can't treat him as someone who's terminally 10/40/.270.
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    Yahoo! Sports Staff Lee Majors Wed Mar 11, 2009 03:38 pm PDT
    Justin, here's the concluding sentence of that piece: "If he can play 155+ games, .300 - 30 HR - 100 R - 100 RBI and 15-20 SB's is easily within reach." I'm with him. That's within reach. It's not exactly where I pegged him, but OK. The last time Holliday played 155+ games, this was his line: .340 - 36 HR - 120 R - 137 RBI - 11 SB. So I think we're both saying that he loses a chunk of value. Holliday's within-reach projections in Colorado would be higher, no? I'm not aware of anyone who's said he's not a good hitter. That's certainly not what we're saying him here.
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    your mom Wed Mar 11, 2009 03:35 pm PDT Report Abuse
    thanks behrens; love the insight. when can we expect a SP and/or RP position primer?
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    BH Wed Mar 11, 2009 02:17 pm PDT Report Abuse
    The Lebron of baseball shouldn't be 12 spots behind BJ. Matty and Manny in the same outfield all season, this is going to be the best summer of ball yet. He's already saying he can go 40/40. We shall see. At least Behrens isn't sold on overhype Ethier. On August 11th Ethier was hitting .273 with 11 homers and 47 RBI. Over the next 19 games he smacked 9 homers from August 13th to September 5th. He was batting in front of Manny for most all of that. When he moved to the 4 spot BEHIND Manny, he didn't hit a homer from the 5th of September through the rest of the regular season. Hit 4th in the playoffs, didn't hit a homer and struggled horribly. If he didn't have those 30 RBI in the last 39 games and raise his average 30 points, he was on track to have a below average season by any outfielder's standards. He wasn't even worth rostering until Kent got hurt and took his spot in the batting order. Kent was hitting about .500 in front of Manny before he went down. Put Mr. Kemp in front of Man Ram and then we see who the baddest man in fantasy baseball is. Not to mention he's a gold glove waiting to happen, leading the league in assists with only 3 errors at 23 years old. Hanley is going to be in these outfield rankings next year, worst shortstop ever. Had to say it.

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