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i have stephenson right now and although i do like his reb/asts, his lack of scoring and anything else much really is kinda hurting my team with injuries to davis, butler, and kobe. this is my current lineup:
c- a. davis
bn- d. jordan
10 team h2h, 9 cat league. should i still just keep stephenson?
I don't think this is a bad idea at all. Considering your team's needs and wants, it seems like this move would benefit you.
Even though GV has been inconsistent this year due to always fighting for PT with IT2, he is still a decent source of 3's and assists. Just know that even though you will get an increase in FT% it's not as much as it seems. Sure, GV is shooting 93%, but that's on less than 2 attempts per game. Not enough volume to significantly help you, but it does do less damage than Thompson's lower % on more attempts.
If you can afford to lose out on Thompson's near double digit rebound numbers then I say make the move. I personally see Vasqeuz's numbers either staying the same, or going up. I don't think they will go do drastically. But under the right circumstances I can see his 3PTM improving slightly, and his assists rising even more if he gets more minutes. Another good thing about him is he has a really nice Assist to Turnover ratio.
The only other advice I'd give, is to see if there are any other PG's out there that have similar value to Vasquez who maybe either shoot more than 1 3PTM per game, or have nice FT% with higher volume than he does and try to target them. But you'd likely be giving up some in assists for that trade, so it all depends on what you need most. For the value of Thompson, Vasquez might be your best option for the combo of 3's, assists and FT%.
Thank man, I try. I just really like basketball, and statistics and currently have a lot of free time to think about that type of #$%$ lol. And I enjoy giving my opinions on it to other people... BUT even though sometimes I go way in depth on things and bring up a lot of good points, I can STILL be wrong, a lot. That's the fun part though. No matter how much planning or scouting you do, sometimes it just doesn't go your way... I'll take a look at your ? now.
I like Dragic much more, but that's just my opinion.
Looking at the stats, Dragic has better FG%, Turner better FT%. Dragic gets more 3PTM, Turner scores more (about 3 per game). Turner has better rebounds while Dragic has better assists, and the difference between those 2 categories are the same (Rebounding 7-3, assists 7-4), steals are about the same, Dragic has advantage in blcoks and A/TO.
So the main thing you are getting from Turner is better FT%, a couple extra points, and trading assists for rebounds.
I'd rather take the 3 PPG hit, and have more assists than rebounds, and have better overall stats in the other categories.
The ONLY way that you did NOT improve on this trade is if giving up Lee and Stephenson hurts your team so much that you drop to the bottom of your league and by the time Davis comes back, you are a non-playoff team. Because in that situation, it doesn't help to have the number 1 fantasy player if your team doesn't make the playoffs.
But other than that, if you can even stay just competitive in your league, when Davis returns, assuming he isn't limited once he's 100% healthy, you dominate this trade.
What size league? I am holding him in a 12 and a 16 team league. He is also owned in all of my very competitive 12-20 team leagues.
If it is a 10 team league I'd say he is FA material, but in competitive 12+ teamers, I'd say he's worth holding, especially if you are comfortably in 1st.
#$%$, I just typed out a really long in depth reply and then hit the wrong button and lost it lol. Basically I was saying that I would accept this deal. You might not help your FG% or TO's very much, but overall I think you improve your team.
I'll take Cousins over Noah this year for sure. Noah might have better defensive numbers but Cousins has the better overall game and is much less of an injury/risk threat going down the stretch.
I'll also take Jrue over Calderon. Jrue finally looks like he is settling in in New Orleans and is playing pretty good basketball. He also has a much better overall game compared to Calderon. Jose's claim to fantasy fame was his 3PTM and double digit assists. Well, the 3's are there, but the assists are NOT. He has ZERO games with double digit assists, only 1 game with 9 assists and all the rest were 5 or less. Jrue has basically DOUBLE his averages in assists, steals, rebounds and blocks. He obviously gets less 3's but even Calderon's high FT% isn't that valuable since he only averages less than 1 attempt per game. Not to mention that guys like Larkin and Mekel are looking pretty good, Devin Harris is getting close to returning, and Monta Ellis can control the ball all day long if needed.
Adding Amir Johnson, who has high potential but has underperformed greatly this year, is not enough to make up for the differences I mentioned, so if this were MY team, I'd accept.
I've owned Mozgov in a 20 team dynasty league with 20 man rosters for a while now. And I can tell you from experience that you don't want to buy into what he's doing. He has shown these glimpses in the past of HUGE rebounding and defensive numbers with nice scoring, only to fall off the face of the earth shortly after, never to be heard of again until the next up and coming player posterizes him on a monster dunk lol.
I haven't watched many Lakers games this season (Celtics fan here, as much as I LOVE basketball, there is only so much purple and gold I can stand at a time lol) But from all that I've read, it seems like Jordan Hill is running out of steam from playing too many minutes and being too aggressive. This, as opposed to an injury or lake of PT is actually a good thing in my opinion. It means that he is more likely to get a second wind and start producing like he was before. From what I've seen he fits Diantoni's system very well, much better than Kaman, and has more experience than Sacre. I don't think Nash or Kobe's return would negatively effect Hill.
So, although Hill isn't a sure thing to bounce back, I'd take him night and day over Mozgov.
I'd agree with the 99% of the time there is a winner statement, because if not 1 side or the other, BOTH sides could very well be "winners" in a trade.
You can easily "win" a trade and hurt your fantasy team, just like you can "lose" a trade and actually help your team in the long run. It all comes down to specific team needs and goals.
In this trade you obviously got a big upgrade at PG, but without seeing the rest of your roster, I'm not sure it was the best move. Jrue is no CP3, that's for sure! But he's a more than serviceable starting PG with high potential. Hibbert is a rebounding and shot blocking beast. Morris is well worth a spot on a deep 16 team league. So in your format, you are giving a lot of depth. If you followed Hinrich last time Rose was out, he had a lot of potential and sometimes put up big numbers, but struggled with consistency as well as staying healthy. I think I'd rather have Hibbert, Holiday, Morris than CP3, and inconsistent/injury prone backup PG, and a FA in a 16X16 league who probably isn't worth much at all.
BUT, without knowing your roster or any other info, I could b wrong.
All depends on team needs. Hickson is obviously last though, not sure what ole buddy is saying. He's not good, he's a liability, and he just lost his job.
For my team needs it's Hill, Verejao, and Amir. Watch Amir close though, one more game coming off the bench and playing strong with the 2nd unit and he moves past Andy V (who will eventually get injured anyway). I think Amir plays better with the 2nd team because he's just not big and talented enough to bang with the first team, but the 2nd team he beats up on easily. Like Jeremy Lin.
Assuming that you didn't just pick him up, and you've been holding him throughout his DNP-CD's (same situation I"ve been in, in a 16 team league) then I'd say you should NOT drop him right now. He is JUST coming back into the rotation. 6 3PTM, 1 20 point game, 2 steals, and 2 games shooting 50% or better from the field isn't 1st round value, but it should be JUST enough value, along with his upside to hold value in a deeper format. I'd hold him and hope that he strings along a few games with multiple 3PTM and double digit scoring, and try to flip him to a team that needs 3's.
If there were a better FA option out there I'd say drop him, but JT is too inconsistent and can't even fully break out when Cousins is out. Aminu has potential, but his game is better in reality than fantasy. His defensive numbers are nice, but he just isn't a consistent scorer, doesn't regularly hit 3's, has negligible assists and bad FT%. Remember that 1 nice game he's coming off from was a triple OT game where he played over 40 minutes.... ANd I actually like Darren Collison quite a bit, but he just doesn't get enough consistent minutes behind Chris Paul to have consistent fantasy value. He'd have to be more in the 30MPG range to sustain value, not the 17 MPG he's currently averaging. But, if the trend of his last 4 games continues, and he keeps playing at least 20 MPG he could be worth it.
This is a deep league otherwise these would be waiver wire guys, i know...
Moving on. I am strong in OReb and DReb, but weak in FT%, 3s, and assists. Should I make the trade for Vasquez?