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don't you think this is more of an indictment on H2H formats versus Roto formats rather than the productivity of a pitcher
SP matter in that you need them to be good enough to even get into the playoffs. Plus most real leagues have no can't cut list. Degrom had a bad start, if it happened in June you wouldn't have rushed to the forums like a blathering nincompoop.
The can't cut list should go away once the playoffs start in H2H. At this point in the season it's all about who can help you win.
Harvey is a poor H-H pitcher, at least this year. Anyone paying attention new that going into the draft...
Here's how some of my hitters in my H2H league did last week, where I lost all 6 hitting categories:
Wilson Ramos 2 for 17, 0R, 0 HR, 1RBI, 0 SB
Albert Pujols 2 for 27 1-0-2-0
Kolten Wong 5 for 20 3-0-2-0
Evan Longoria 5 for 28 3-0-0-0
Jung Ho Kang 2 for 10 0-0-0-0
Ryan Braun 1 for 8 1-0-0-1
Lorenzo Cain 3 for 22 0-0-0-1
Odubel Herrera 3 for 18 0-0-0-0
Randal Grichuk 1 for 2 0-0-0-0
Can it get any worse than having DeGrom last week? Yes, it can. Like having the group of hitters that I had.
I had 5 wins, 9 saves, 121 K's, 2.43 ERA, and 1.08 WHIP last week. But I lost. Why? Because my hitters sucked. Duffy and Kipnis were the only ones that were any good.
Complaining that you can't cut DeGrom, therefore he's a waste is one of the stupidest things I've seen.
Decided to go Koehler out of these two. How about Santana (the 2 starts listed above) or Verett (one start vs. Atl)? Currently sitting at even projected starts with my finals opponent.
Philadelphia and Atlanta are both fielding JV lineups and have nothing to play for...
...additionally, they have lousy W-L percentages, low runs scored totals, and negative runs differential(s).
You sought it out to reply A MONTH AFTER THE ORIGINAL POST. That doesn't just happen. Similarly, you bumped about 4-5 thread merely to reply directly to my post(s) the same day.
Didn't seek it out...my #$%$.
Jacob deGrom 2015 (and Matt Harvey 2015) are prime examples of why starting pitching matters very little in H2H. deGrom has been very useful this season in traditional roto stats (and traditional H2H stats). However, come playoff time (read: all that really matters in H2H) he is useless..worse than that...he is a blight on your team.
The answer is simple...productivity (or lack thereof).
Pitchers already have decreased productivity in fantasy baseball due to lack of playing time (once every five days) and lack of impact on scoring categories (at best just assistance in 4 out of 5 standard scoring categories).
How does deGrom become a blight in H2H?
How does that happen?
Starts pushed back. Instead of being a 2-start pitcher in any one week...pushing his starts back make him a no start pitcher one week, and a one start pitcher for each of the last two weeks.
That is bad. Can it get any worse?
Yes. It can get worse. Being a good pitcher but limited to one start a week (or less) is bad. Being unable to drop said pitcher and add a decent two-start pitcher for the upcoming week makes it worse. A H2H manager not only has his pitching arsenal limited...he cannot effectively counter using prudent fantasy baseball strategy as the "productive" pitcher is on the Can't Cut List.
Again...loading up on SP in H2H is foolish. What do you do if you have Scherzer, deGrom, and Archer? Hope that your opponent doesn't add 3 two-start pitchers on Sunday night?
Only bench Carlos Gonzalez at home against a weak SP if there's a good chance that he won't be playing (due to injury). If he's healthy, he should be in your lineup.
Harry...this is why you are in 10th place.
One should not view individual players' category contributions against one another. One should view individual players' category contributions against the MLB AVERAGE. As such, standard deviation is the most prudent measure.
More importantly, one should focus on an individual players' category contributions IN EACH CATEGORY AGAINST THE LEAGUE AVERAGE IN EACH CATEGORY. Doing this makes Pollock more valuable...not against a team of 10 Josh Donaldson's but against a team of 10 players of varied skill sets (read: the typical fantasy team). A team of 10 Josh Donaldsons will be a lot of fantasy teams but not more fantasy teams than a team of 10 A. J. Pollocks.
This is your failure to understand math and logic.
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