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yeah i agree with you mike. I'm all for taking the top rbs early but in the first round I'm going best available. id rather have a top wr over a second tier rb just because rbs are so scarce.
yeah i would take forte or hill over anderson as well. i remember when everyone was all hyped on ball last year and i never understood why.
You do remember that Brady was like the 25th-best QB in the league after the first month of the season last year, right? He ended up with only 4 games with more than 2 TDs, and only 5 games over 300 yards passing. That's not much in today's NFL. In comparison, the Eagles' QBs combined (Foles and Sanchez) had 8 games over 300 yards passing. Philip Rivers threw for more than 2 TDs 7 times. Brady isn't all that special.
Hey everyone, so I'm in a 12 person,2 keeper league, my 2 keepers this year are Odell and Antonio, I was given the 6th overall pick, and through some offseason trading I obtained the 5th overall pick in the first round, so I have back to back picks in the first round this year. Now my question is, I was offered the 2nd overall pick for my 6th round pick plus either Odell or Antonio.If I accepted the trade my new keeper to take place of the wr would be Carlos Hyde. Ive done some research and these are the top players not being kept in our draft.
Should I make the trade, if so which receiver or should I stay put
Doug Martin had one good year, but that good year was depending on a couple of huge games (much like Ben Roethlisberger last year). It was easy to see that he was being overdrafted after his rookie year, and I have warned people against drafting him the last two seasons. Trent Richardson showed a little promise his first year in Cleveland, but it wasn't exactly a sensation (he didn't even get to 1000 yards, and his ypc was like 3.3)--so I warned that HE was being overdrafted in 2013 as well. Montee Ball was NEVER a sensation--and I warned people against drafting him last year too. CJ Anderson led the NFL in rushing yards and rushing TDs over the last 6 weeks of 2014, averaged 4.7 yards per carry for the year, and is now paired with a coach legendary for turning underestimated RBs into superstars (Terrell Davis, Olandis Gary, Clinton Portis, Reuben Droughns, Mike Anderson, Steve Slaton, Arian Foster, Justin Forsett). He also happens to be the Broncos' best RB in pass protection for Peyton. You can draft on "history" if you like; the winners in fantasy football are the ones who draft on the future.
Matt Forte actually has some talent. Forsett has been a career journeyman for 7 or 8 years with like 4 different teams until he ended up in the right place at the right time with the RB Whisperer Gary Kubiak in Baltimore. Kubiak's gone and so is Forsett's time in the sun; now he goes back to what he is, was, and shall always be--an average back with average talent and only marginal fantasy relevance.
This should be obvious, but definitely don't follow this guys advise about dropping Brady.
You should have Brady, plus either of the others. I don't think either has much trade value.
waring people of forsett lol.. he's gonna have a huge year with trest man as his play caller. look what he did with matt forte. come week 6 you will be wishing you had him.
A lot of people who take the previous years rookie sensation re 1 never even get to see the trophy. Montee ball, Doug Martin, and Trent Richardson spring to mind from recent years. I'd rather take a player that has a history of being elite in the first few rounds.
dez and antino brown have a very high celing and are safe. both are stud wide recviers. but no way i'd take either of them over the big 4 running backs. now cj Anderson and McCoy have bust written all over them forte should be a bust too. I always go with the best availbe been doing that stragedy for 11 yrs. to go along with 8 championships.
Actual research by FFToday staff has shown that top-tier WRs are more often busts than top-tier RBs, at least over the last three years.
"I’ll be honest, this isn’t what I expected. Preseason WR1s and RB1s tend to finish as WR1s and RB1s at just about the same rate. And the numbers are similar for returning at least a top 24 season. Part of the appeal of taking wide receivers in the first two rounds is they supposedly have a higher percentage chance at returning value, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
"The real eye opener for me is the number of busts at the wide receiver position. The idea that nearly 20 percent of the time when you use an early pick on a wide receiver he’s going to flat out bust, is a scary thought.
"Based on my findings to this point, it would appear that your best bet is to return to the 'old fashion' method of RB/RB to kick off your draft. Given the same likelihood of actually drafting a top 12 player from either the RB or WR position, it would seem you have to factor in the bust rates as the kicker, and these numbers tell me you are safer going with a running back."
This is a team I got in a free ESPN auction league a few days ago. See if you can figure out why I named them that.
12 teams, standard scoring, QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, K, D
QB: Jay Cutler, Josh mcCown
RB: Jamaal Charles, CJ Anderson, CJ Spiller, Chris Johnson
WR: Calvin Johnson, Charles Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Jamison Crowder, Juron Criner
TE: Jordan Cameron, Jared Cook, Jeff Cumberland
K: Jandler Catanzaro
A few years ago I drafted Tarvaris, Steven, Fred, Vincent and DeSean, and called them The Jackson Five.
yeah rbs get hurt more then wide recvier and the first round running back bust rate is almost 30 precent..
Robert i'd like you in my money league too easy money for me.
what adams is gonna be a wide recvier 2. did you forget he has aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball. and the chiefs din't have any good wide recviers.
i really like your team. based on preseason it looks like the raiders are really trying to incorporate cooper in the offense there pretty much forcing the ball to him but as a life long raiders dont ever trust the raiders offense lmao. your rbs are kind of weak tho. bell is obviously good but i feel like you should have went after a guy like gurley abdullah or cj spiller since gore is your number 2. i would drop a te if i were you and pick up a guy like knile davis or a cobb.
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