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12 team H2H League
I get Eddie Lacy and Demaryius Thomas
I give Demarco Murray and Julio Jones
I'm slightly concerned about Murray's usage and touches, but I'm also thinking that Julio will have a better year than Demaryius, especially since the Broncos seem likely to run the ball more frequently given the new coordinator (and Peyton concerns me a little too, given his age and all the past injuries).
He also has Melvin Gordon, so Martin would be his RB3 and he would likely be on the bench because he'd have Odell and Cooks at WR and potentially Devante Adams at flex.
And yeah, that's my thinking about Vereen. It's not a PPR league
What's the consensus? Martin, Blount, Vereen, Freeman? I've heard Charles Sims is closing the gap behind Martin, on a team that is likely to be behind most games anyway (so they'll be forced to pass). Blount worries me a little due to the rotating RB system the Pats often use. Freeman could very well be the starting RB even though he hasn't played much in the preseason, Coleman hasn't impressed. Vereen is a pass catcher and the Giants third string RB, so I'm not sure he'd ever start for me.
He might not have had an opportunity to think about my offers yet since I sent them late last night. I just feel like giving away two NFL starting RBs and receiving a 3rd stringer who will probably never start on my team is too much (of course Julio is Julio). Am I wrong?
12 team H2H League
I was proposed this offer:
1. I get Julio Jones/Shane Vereen
I give Matt Forte/LeGarrette Blount
I countered with two offers:
2. I get Julio Jones/Shane Vereen
I give Matt Forte/Devonta Freeman
3. I get Julio Jones/Doug Martin
I give Matt Forte/LeGarrette Blount
So, my questions are:
1) Should I accept his offer (trade #1)?
2) From the perspective of my team, do you like my counter offers (trades #2/3)?
3) Which of the 3 trades is best for me?
QB: Tom Brady
WR: Vincent Jackson
WR: Eric Decker
RB: DeMarco Murray
RB: Matt Forte
TE: Jimmy Graham
Flex: Latavius Murray
K: Justin Tucker
DEF: St. Louis
BN: Matthew Stafford, Breshad Perriman, Ronnie Hillman, LeGarrette Blount, Devonta Freeman, Jets (for week 1 against the Browns)
- david c david c Sep 1, 2015 11:49 AM Flag
Blount could battle Latavius for my flex spot, and I was looking into trading either DeMarco or Forte for a top WR, so LeGarrette could be nice at RB3
12 team H2H League - standard scoring (2wr/2rb/flex)
I get Rob Gronkowski
I give Jimmy Graham and LeGarrette Blount
My RBs are DeMarco Murray, Matt Forte, Latavius Murray, LeGarrette Blount, Devonta Freeman, and Ronnie Hillman
His RBs are Tevin Coleman, Alfred Blue, Darren Sproles, David Cobb, and Fred Jackson
- david c david c Aug 31, 2015 6:21 PM Flag
It depends how the scoring is weighted. If IDP barely get any points in comparison to the offensive players, I'd hold off longer than rounds 5/6.
- david c david c Aug 31, 2015 5:54 PM Flag
I agree Gronk's production will likely decline if Brady is out, but I don't think it'll be substantial.
I agree that Graham will get his touches, but I don't think he will get nearly as many looks as he did with Drew Brees and the Saints. Brees had 1,500 more yards and 13 more passing touchdowns than Wilson last season, and I envision the Seahawks continuing to be more run-oriented.
With a new offensive coordinator in Chicago, I can't count on Forte's reception total being over 100 again..it's unrealistic.
I'm not trying to talk myself one way or the other, just trying to think it through. There's a reason why I haven't accepted it yet..
- david c david c Aug 31, 2015 5:36 PM Flag
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Here are some of my devil's advocate thoughts. I'm not trying to argue with you, but merely trying to think this through.
Gronk may be over-hyped, but he's still amazing given his skill-set and how much of a gap there is between him and the other TEs. The final ruling on Brady's suspension has yet to be decided, but even if he is benched, do you really think Gronk's stats will substantially diminish? LaFell and Edelman seem hurt and many young quarterbacks oftentimes turn to reliable TEs initially.
I know I drafted Graham, but I'm not completely sold on how Seattle is going to use him. He and Russell Wilson seem to have some communication issues and Seattle has been a run-first team in the recent past. No doubt that Graham will be a great red zone target, but it's a little scary to rely on TDs on a weekly basis.
I'd say Gronk and Forte (not Evans and Forte) represent the most weight in the trade. Gronk was drafted 5 spots before Forte and Evans was drafted 5 spots before Graham. I think Forte's catches will substantially decrease this season, which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he is getting additional carries, but who knows how the Bears offense can stay on the field long enough for Forte to get his points.
- david c david c Aug 31, 2015 5:10 PM Flag
It's a good team. 0.25ppr isn't much, but Forte, Ellington, Edelman, and Landry are nice options. Like you said, RB is your main area for improvement, but it's not terrible. I imagine you'll start the first 3 WRs and first 3 RBs listed on a weekly basis, and that's a fine lineup. I don't usually have more than 1 TE, so I might drop Donnell and pick up a backup RB who'd get the starting job in the event of an injury like Knile Davis, Hillman, etc. You could probably drop Terrence Williams as well.
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