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- Pokerface Pokerface Jul 18, 2015 10:01 AM Flag
Posey's price should come up quite a bit too. People are now starting to believe more in him as a bona fide difference-maker whose position does not impair him to get every day PT, whether at C or 1B. I've had him in my non-auction H2H keeper league for the past four years and he's the one player I would probably not commit to trading away because it's such a luxury rostering a player like that that you can move around your roster to get creative in daily leagues. That said, I can easily see Posey going up 20-30% over that of last year in auction formats next year, which could put him anywhere from $150 to $160, if not more. But you are right, though. Bryce will cost you way too much with the season he's having so might as well take the deal and get Posey now. After all, Brantley should come cheaper next year. So I guess you would only need to ask yourself how much you believe in Brantley coming back up in value next season after a down season this year. He could be a nice piece to hold on to.
This is a H2H Std keeper league. We keep 12 players ea yr but cannot keep more than 8 batters. I recently had major injuries losing Miggy and Springer. They will both be out until mid August perhaps even until late Aug. Our H2H playoffs start on Sep 7 so it looks like I should have my big bats off the DL at least a couple of weeks before the playoffs. That I think is important in assessing this deal because Springer is one of the key players I have on the DL. Eight teams will make the playoffs and I'm currently in 8th place hanging there by a thread followed closely by 4 other teams within 10 categories of me. So a slight slip could push me out of playoffs contention. Also the 3 teams ahead of me in the standings are also only within 10 categories, so I might be able to catch them if I take the trade and roster Bautista and ARod now.
That said, I think it would be sweeter keeping younger guys like Springer (power & speed) and Seager (hard-to-fill position) than keeping Bautista and Arod. In fact, if I take the trade, chances are I will keep Bautista but might leave Arod out. I like Arod, though... he is just too old. Bautista himself at 35 is kind of old too so keeping two older guys will be tough.
Now, here's the dilemma... it's anyone's guess if Corey Seager will get a promo this year. We have a keeper rule that states that only batters who have had at least one at-bat during the regular season can be kept the following season. Seager would need to get his promo and get one AB to be keeper-eligible. Another issue, Springer has youth, power and speed while none of the two guys I will be getting (if I accept the trade) have youth or speed. From another perspective... I do have a better chance of making the playoffs this year if I take the deal. But keeper-wise I will be at a disadvantage. ARod is playing great baseball this year, though. If Bautista can get it going a bit I will have awesome power once Miggy comes off the DL.
Would you take the deal or decline?
- Reply to Pokerface Jul 14, 2015 4:36 PMPokerface Pokerface Jul 15, 2015 7:12 PM Flag
T.J. you seem like an intelligent sports-savvy fan but you keep talking about a whole bunch of stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with my initial argument about a manager not keeping honest with a player's role as long as the player is performing well. Rondon was doing great so there was no reason whatsoever for him to lose his job or role. You end your last reply by saying "I'm sure the Cubs GM & Prez is just fine with all that". Well they might be happy with it but I know one person who I'm sure is not happy with it at all: Hector Rondon. I wouldn't be happy either if I were in his shoes. Maddon's unjustified, arbitrary and irresponsible move I'm sure has created some form of animosity among Latino players in MLB and a decreased morale because now they know their jobs are not secured regardless of how well they perform.
I must add though... about Soriano after that 2010 season, that Maddon (or the Rays admin in general) probably couldn't keep him on the team even if they wanted to due to perhaps contract details that us fans don't care a whole lot about. I can understand that. In my previous post I did not imply he was treated unfairly while in Tampa under Maddon's management. If it happened then I know nothing about it. However, you mentioning Soriano in your reply to my initial argument about Rondon getting the boot from the closer role without reason did not fit the subject at all. That was a different time, a different team and league and completely different circumstances. More than anything there wasn't a top arm like Jason Motte available to bump a sharp Soriano back in 2010 on the Rays. I'm sure if Motte wasn't on the Cubs this year such position committee and closer controversy would have never taken place. Maddon might not have anything personal against Rondon. It looks more like he really wanted to give Motte another chance to be a top closer so he did the one thing he could do that he thought could go unnoticed and without much controversy.
- Reply to Pokerface Jul 14, 2015 4:36 PMPokerface Pokerface Jul 15, 2015 6:33 PM Flag
You are not getting the point of what I said. I never said Maddon is guilty of not rostering Latin players. Obviously , there wouldn't be any Latinos in the Cubs 40-man roster this year if that were true. If that were the case Montero and Strop wouldn't be there. What I said was that Maddon unjustifiably made a highly questionable move by removing a player from his normal role in order to give such role to another player. Had been all over the place with his delivery and with a handful of blown saves then such move would not have been unreasonable. And what was even more annoying was the sneaky way Maddon made the swift move... by pretending to be going with a committee for a couple of weeks when it was evident all he had in mind was to give the job to a another pitcher. Like I said I like Motte but that was a disgusting move.
Btw he didn't "revitalize" anyone. Just because he was the manager at the same time a Latin player happened to be on the roster does not mean he is thrilled about having them on the team. After all managers more often than not do not have a whole lot of say on who gets a contract and who doesn't. There are other people there to do that. Besides, until a contract expires there is absolutely nothing the manager can do to kick out a player. All he can do is bench him often and that he did plenty with all of those part time hitters that you just mentioned. As for Soriano, he was with the Rays for only one year (2010) and saved 45 games with these awesome numbers 1.73, 0.80, .163. Arguably the best season Soriano has had in the majors... and yet I guess that was not good enough for Maddon to keep him around the following season. Like I said, Maddon did not revitalize anyone. The players, including Soriano, did what they would have done on any team and under any manager.
- Pokerface by Pokerface Jul 14, 2015 4:36 PM Flag
I guess today I'll take it on the one MLB manager that has really made me want to puke the most this season. The usual suspect... none other than Mr. Joe Maddon himself.
I think it's really shameful the way this man so cleverly and sneakily removed Hector Rondon from the closer role in Chicago. Maddon pretended to only be spreading save ops around for a while there... I'm guessing due to Rondon's "lack of control" or "lack of velocity" or what have you - notion that only seems to have existed in Maddon's big peanut head. But his ultimate "master plan" was to create media controversy to slowly but effectively take away Rondon's job and hand it over to Jason Motte without making the move way too obvious to avoid having people pointing fingers at him or calling him out. Rondon was pitching very well when Maddon announced to the media that the Cubs were "not locked in on a specific closer" back in early June. From the moment I read that I had this strong gut feeling of what exactly Maddon was trying to do... and that was to hand over the role to Motte.
IMO Maddon has a big problem with having a Venezuelan or a Latino securing wins in Chicago. Actually, I hate to say it out loud, but I think he has a problem with Latinos in general in major league baseball. If Rondon had been pitching bad when Maddon decided to take away his role then I would understand but that was not the case here. Maddon just wanted to give the job to the other guy because it blew out of his rear end to do.
Don't get me wrong. I like Jason Motte as much as I like Rondon and I think Motte deserves to close in MLB after having lost his job due to injury in St. Louis. But the way Maddon did it was just atrocious. It's not the way you win fans for your team. I'm sure there is a rather large Hispanic community in the windy city wondering what the hell was that all about.
Just wanted to point out the issue if only to let Maddon know that his sneaky and highly biased strategy did not go unnoticed.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 10, 2015 9:38 AM Flag
One more HR, a few more rbi, 2 more stolen bases... lol BIG DEAL! That's not what matters when you analyze players; that's all circumstantial. Besides, they are both utility guys who played sparingly during the season, so like who cares. Holt, though, did have a much better batting average, OBP and SLG ratios, which is what you should be observing instead of going by a mere home run or a couple more steals. Rios still has the potential to turn things around but chances are he won't. That is why people are fed up of him and would rather try luck with Holt or other younger players at the same level. But Holt will probably stink the place too given the chance.
Like I said, you can go ahead and roster any one of them. I don't plan to give any of those two a spot on my roster unless the pool completely dries out.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 10, 2015 9:19 AM Flag
All of your cursing and the personal insults clearly let's everyone know you have some serious personal issues and absolutely no respect for others. Hey its all right. You can go ahead and call me all you want. I've probably played this game much longer than you and I'm confident I can beat you on any league and any level. Just tell me when and where and I'll be there. Or you can come and join me in one of my leagues if you are not too afraid. It's your call. Give this "myopic fool" a chance to show you who really is the myopic fool.
Oh wait a minute... actually I am myopic now that I come to think of it! :D I've had that problem for years and now at age 49 it is even more evident I have eyesight problems. In fact I've got a cataract in my left eye! Do you have a pair of pliers you could spare me to pull it out?? I tell you one thing, though, this myopic right here holds a 90%-plus winning ratio in fantasy baseball for the past 19 years of playing the game to be exact. Come on over and show me how much my myopia is an impairment to playing a cool-silly game that should be for fun, not to insult others with a lack of self esteem like the one you just displayed here. Grow up, friend. Send me an invite to your league. I can't wait to show you some real "logic" and square you out in your own turf. Have a good day... and chill, friend cuz you'll have a heart attack playing all hyped up like that.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 10, 2015 8:07 AM Flag
For a 10 team league it is above average but not a killer. I would add steals, a couple of position players on your bench, and one more closer (cheap one late in the draft if you can get one) depending on Doolittle's chances on being completely healthy at some point during the first half. I would trade away one or two starters to accommodate other needs.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 10, 2015 7:51 AM Flag
Bautista, Encarnacion, Beltre, Desmond, Pujols, Mesoraco, *Richards.
*I would seriously consider keeping Harrison over SP Richards depending on league settings. Starting pitching is very deep, though. You should be able to put together a decent rotation without much effort. But 2B will not be too deep in your redraft if you guys keep seven players. So, yeah, I like Richards over Shields but Harrison is keystone and hot corner eligible, while SP's will be dime a dozen. Value is everything.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 10, 2015 6:29 AM Flag
Lol chill bill take a pill and don't be such a lil' punk. Anyway just for your info I've played this game prob since before you reached over and wiped your wrinkly brown one for the first time. So please save for yourself that #$%$ about 11 yrs playing. Big deal! What are you... 20-something? Lol Kid. I've played this game twice that long here on Yahoo, Espn, Cbs, MLB, Fox sports, even friggin Sandbox, the former gathering place of cheaters.. no wonder I left that rat hole. You should go play over there if they still exist. Dude, I've basically played all over the place, so save yourself your conceited sermon. In Yahoo alone my overall winning % exceeds 90%... and I'm not speaking of just 11 years. I played here since before the turn of the century, dude. And I haven't yet found one manager that beats that winning ratio. If you want to prove you are that good then come on over and join one of my roto or H2H leagues. All my leagues are custom prize pro leagues, not the free casual public leagues you are most likely accustomed to play in. That means you will really need to step it up several notches to beat your stiff competition day in day out. I dare you to bring your funky lil' #$%$ over and give us true gamers the pleasure of taking you down and suting you up the way you deserve. Btw you can bring your boyfriend over there so that you don't feel too lonely among the pros. Have a great day.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 3:09 PM Flag
Rookies game??? Maybe because you don't know how to play it. If you can't win a H2H league let alone a roto. You have to be able to win in all formats before pretending to be a pro. Find a public league so you can practice before jumping in with the lions. and take that Denniss dude with you. He seems to be pretty good at chickening out of leagues once he sees competition approaching around him... Lol
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 6:53 AM Flag
Well, "Skippy", for starters, Holt did start more games than Aviles last year. Aviles appeared in 113 games all right, but 12 of those were as a pinch hitter. Holt only pinch hit once all year. Therefore, do the math. Holt winded up with more starts. Besides, I don't know why you are counting games played. That doesn't have a whole lot of weight in fantasy baseball if you are constantly being used as a pinch hitter late in games. What counts most for position players (in fantasy) is the at-bats the player has had; and once again the "utility player" Holt beats out the "utility player" Aviles (make no mistake both are utility players) and by quite a stretch: in 2014, 449 at-bats for Holt to merely 344 for Aviles. Again simple math reveals Holt had over 100 more at-bats than Aviles... and more starts too, period. But please let's not stop the analysis there. Holt is only 26 years old, an age we all knowledgeable fantasy baseball gamers know very well is about the age when players reach their max potential.. well, at least more often than not. As for Aviles, fast approaching age 34 (March), his MLB numbers have left a lot to be desired, at least for fantasy purposes. I'm not speaking of the real game with its many variables and intangibles. Obviously he's worthy of a MLB spot. But in 8 MLB seasons he's only been able to surpass the hideous .300 mark 3 times; and has been a sub .300 OBP guy for the last 4 years in a row. What's more, his SLG% hasn't even touched .400 in the last three years. That is why he is a utility guy and will be a utility guy for a good time unless he changes his approach and does what he hasn't been able to do in 8 long years in the majors. The max steals he's had in any given season in MLB is 14 so don't expect a whole lot of speed either, and if you're hoping for a little more power from him than what you'd get from Holt, realize that his highest OPS in those last four years doesn't even approach .700. Holt, in his first year did much better.
- Reply to Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 1:46 AMPokerface Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 1:49 AM Flag
So many others posting their league announcements, even with camouflaged email addresses in them, and yet they don't get deleted. But mine do Have to wonder why.
- Pokerface by Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 1:46 AM Flag
You seem to have crossed the line now because my last few posts do not have any email in them in any way or any form, and yet you keep deleting them all. Way to treat a user that has been faithfully using your service for 20 years. I will give some serious consideration about taking my game elsewhere where I get treated with a little more respect. Have a good day.
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 1:38 AM Flag
How is it that Yahoo let's other people post email-camouflaged addresses and yet not one of my posts seems to go through. They keep deleting them on the spot. Those basta^$!
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 9, 2015 1:17 AM Flag
Cat-20 Rotisserie, the roto league has 8 of 14 now, need 6 more; while the Buck-A-Win H2H league has 7 of 16, need 9 more owners. LSaf
Invite URL to Buck-A-Win H2H (head-to-head one-win league):
Invite URL to Cat-20 Rotisserie (roto league):
- Pokerface Pokerface Feb 8, 2015 1:59 PM Flag
You meant to say Aviles played in less games than Holt, not more.
Both Aviles and Holt won't be more than waiver fodder this year. They could help with a little speed in the infield positions but that is it. Unless injuries strike they won't be starting too many games. Maybe people are adding Holt more because he is younger and maybe they think he can offer more than Aviles, who's been around for a while and has never been able to stick as a regular. Folks just don't see Aviles as anything more of what he's been thus far, while Holt is perhaps a bit more intriguing (to them) given his newer status at the major league level. Oh, and btw, don't forget Holt did have a much better BA than Aviles last year and his OPS was close to 100 points higher. Let's say this, if both had regular playing time who would you go with? I used to pursue Aviles late in drafts but not anymore. I'd go with the newer kid. That doesn't mean I will take either of them. Chances are my roster will have all regular starters despite 30 man rosters.
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