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- Reply to T Dec 30, 2013 10:55 AMOl' Blues Ol' Blues Jan 4, 2014 1:07 PM Flag
12 team PPR
Desean, Gordon, Antonio Brown (Amendola)
Forte, Vereen (Sproles, Rainey, M. Bush)
And, yes, Bowman's pick 6 was most of the victory margin.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Jan 4, 2014 12:24 PM Flag
Hmmm...Calvin in the 5th or Garçon in the 11th? Both have value. Both are starters in all but the smallest leagues. But, Calvin, despite not being the "bargain" Garçon is, has more value because he's such a prolific fantasy scorer.
Forte is no different. #3 fantasy scoring RB this season there's no reason to forecast a drop off. He should be a top 5 choice and is grand theft at round 4. Why would you expect either Alf or Martin to be as good?
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Jan 3, 2014 1:34 PM Flag
On the same sample size Matt Stafford is QB20, Calvin is undraftable and Josh Gordon a second tier WR not worth drafting within 2 or 3 rounds of Garçon.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Jan 3, 2014 11:18 AM Flag
It's always a matter of matching skill with opportunity like Josh Gordon in Norv Turner's vertical pass game or Vereen in the absence of other quality receiving options for the Pats. Next season a few to watch are:
What offenses are skilled and underused players now in? Andre Roberts, J. Bell, Da'Rick Rogers.
Who inherits the playmaker roles with age or inconsistency overtaking key players in their offenses? Gore, SJax, FJax, MJD (FA too), CJ?K, Locker, Ponder/Cassell.
Which of the 2nd and 3rd year WRs show the discipline to work hard enough at their craft to jump a level? Stills, Wheaton, Allen, Titans WRs, Williams, Patterson, Patton, Austin, Floyd.
Who comes back effectively from devastating injury? Martin, Lattimore, Broyles, Harvin, Locker, Gronk.
Most importantly which players inherit the offensive innovators into their programs (e.g., Gase)?
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Jan 3, 2014 10:51 AM Flag
Some odd posts. We just came off a season where "guaranteed" QB1s seriously underperformed: Kaep and Wilson suffering from offenses that passed too little, Luck from the loss of Wayne and RG3 being just all around bad. Why are we going to keep a QB who struggled mightily down the stretch in all the games that counted, lacks quality WR2s and 3s, lacks a quality TE, has an uncertain backfield, has an unknown HC and may have Joe Cloud of Dust (Schiano or Pep anyone?) as next season's OC?
If this season taught us one lesson above all others it is the difference a creative offensive coach can make (yes, we all knew Charles, McCoy and Forte were RBs 1-3 and AP was an also ran: Reid, Trestman and Chip made that happen and Frazier assured that it wouldn't happen).
You keep Charles and whoever you like best between Dez and Percy. Stafford could be a top 5 or a top 15 QB. There's simply no way to know at this point. More importantly, there's no reason to guess now when you figure to do equally well and perhaps better in next year's redraft. Good luck.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 12:19 PM Flag
Both are low end WR1s this week. Allen's targets are down. Edelman's are up. Red Zone looks and TDs are the other way around. I'd start Allen, but Edelman has the edge in PPR.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 12:09 PM Flag
Steelers and Rivers. Stafford without Calvin is a crapshoot. The Rams are too erratic for a championship game particularly vs a team that needs to win to preserve its home field and the Steelers have a cupcake matchup.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 9:52 AM Flag
Stacy is pretty clear: horrid matchup but the Rams offense which is consistently yielding high 20s in actual PPG goes through him and he's coming off back to back 100+ games just like the 130 he hung on the 'Hawks last time. CJ1?K has a quality matchup and, while he's someone I don't trust, Munchak should have his team up for this one seeking to preserve his job. Calvin is hurt, hasn't practiced all week and, even if active, is likely too limited to produce. Bush likely sees his touches limited by Bell, but with Calvin out or limited, still should see enough touches to be very close to CJ1?K. Good luck.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 9:41 AM Flag
Moreno. Denver remains the premier offense, he's the lead back and first seed still is in play. Jennings basically timeshared with RunDMC last week: 13 total touches despite Allen's assurances Jennings is the man. The bloom is off Brown: the Giants play is too up and down to rely on anyone from this offense. Smith and the entire Ravens offense are also just too poor to start.
- Reply to Tgww Dec 28, 2013 2:41 PMOl' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 1:02 AM Flag
A couple of thoughts. At flex Mathews would be my start over Jennings. He's significantly out touching Jennings since Jennings returned from concussion and has a string of 100 yard games. Last week a healthy Jennings got 13 touches and had RunDMC vulture a TD and McFadden's role was more akin to a timeshare than a relief role. I'm starting Mathews and Bernard over Jennings this week.
WR. Cooper certainly has the potential to score well and, as an underdog, I'd be tempted to start him too. His production, however, swings wildly and he's just off a month long string of games where he fell significantly below double digits. Steadier as he returns to health is Crabtree (and likely even Jones with Rodgers back). I would start Crabtree as either a favorite or in a close matchup. Good luck.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 12:48 AM Flag
I like both of them this week perhaps even more than their projections (although your number on Bernard is relatively higher than the Rainey/Gio ratio in my league's projections). I'm starting Bernard as he is precisely the type of back that has scored reasonably vs the Ravens even in their stronger games. I prefer him to Rainey because of the dynamism of the Bengals offense. The Bucs have been in an offensive slump for some time and I doubt Schiano and staff have the wherewithal to right the ship for this game. Good luck.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 12:39 AM Flag
I have a similar dilemma, but Tannehill and Pryor are also in the mix in my league. Of your group Fitz likely has the best matchup and opportunity, but my concern is whether he will need to throw all that much. It could well turn into another CJ?K/Greene runfest. Still, I'd likely start Fitz from this group as all of the other 3 have more troublesome issues. Good luck.
- Reply to Carl Dec 28, 2013 10:09 AMOl' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 29, 2013 12:31 AM Flag
No question he's in for another strong season. The key point is does his route running improve. If not he's going to have trouble with the increased attention he's certain to get. This season he saw far less in multiple coverages than he will merit next year and beyond. Absent a more precise and extensive route tree he figures to have more games like he did vs the Packers this year, a significantly subpar unit but one that readily neutralized Gordon with multiple coverage schemes. The concern I have with Gordon is whether he has the self discipline to work on the obvious improvements he needs in his game. We will see.
- Ol' Blues Ol' Blues Dec 28, 2013 11:07 AM Flag
The Pats are too unpredictable at RB to risk in the championship game. Who knows? This could be the Return of Ridley Week. A poor skills alternative like Baker, however, isn't inspiring. Alternatives?