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Oh Paul George. He's one my favorite players and was a lock for me to keep until his injury as well. A year to a year and a half is a long time to hold a player though, in my keep-3 league, he is (sadly) being tossed back in the pool. I'm not seeing enough elite talent here to sustain holding George that long and remaining competitive. I'd recommend letting him go, if your goal is to win it this year. Wishing PG-13 a full recovery and a return to the all-star level he was playing at.
Conley, Howard, and Drummond are certain keepers here and have you locked into a punt FT% strategy. If you're letting let go of Paul George, that really only leaves Thad and Jennings. Knight and Henson play for the Bucks, so that alone makes me leery of them. Henson struggled to get consistent minutes with Ily playing poorly and Sanders out most of the season last year. If both are back at full health and Parker sees some minutes at PF, Henson may be the odd man out. Or he could be traded, or the Bucks could trade Ily, I have no idea what they're doing with that mess over there. You've already got a pretty solid base of boards and blocks, so I'd say Henson isn't worth the gamble. With Bayless, Wolters and Marshall all looking for PG minutes, Knight is in a timeshare situation at best. I expect both these Bucks will be available by the time your draft pick comes up, so not worth wasting a keeper spot on.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 21, 2014 3:00 AM Flag
He isn't a major player and gets little attention, but I gotta give Robin Lopez some credit as one of the better free agent pickups as well as one of the more improved players this season. He played solid all season, and was mostly ignored til the last few weeks of the season by most people. Great percentages, solid blocks and boards with a smattering of steals and points. Good FT% and blocks is a rare combo.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 17, 2014 1:27 AM Flag
I'd go with LeBron, George, Horford, Leonard and Dirk. That's a solid all around group of front court/wing players that get a little bit of everything. With that core you don't need a stud all-around point guard. Chances are Parker and Teague may still be on the board when it comes time to redraft the rest of your team. None of those other guys would be there for you if you're picking in a later spot.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 14, 2014 7:38 PM Flag
Big man, first year in the league, likes to block, sloppy offense means he's gonna be racking up fouls and will likely be hesitant to reach for steals all that often. Also, the NBA just has better ball handlers than in college. A big guy like him in the lane in college might force some turnovers, once he's running with the big boys he might not be so intimidating. That's my basic thinking behind why I think he's not gonna be pulling in as many steals as you expect, I hope he proves me wrong though.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 13, 2014 11:22 PM Flag
I would say your numbers are very good guesses. I would probably take the steals down to 1 or less per game and expect his FT% to be closer to 55%. His offense is pretty shabby by most accounts. I'd say he projects to put up a healthy JaVale McGee kind of numbers as his ceiling, but, you know, less of a moron. Worst case scenario, he puts up Bismack Biyombo kind of numbers, but he has to have better offense than Bismack, that dude is abysmal at putting the ball in the hoop.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 13, 2014 10:38 PM Flag
If you don't have to keep 5 I'd pass on both and take best player available in that 5th round. There's a good chance both of these guys would still be available and possibly someone better.
If I have to take one, I'd go with Korver. He's generally undervalued by people,and like you said pulls in consistent threes and contributes enough everywhere else to be more likely to return solid value again next season. Maritn is made of glass, but is good at threes, FT% and decent in points and steals. I've just never been a big fan of Martin and he seems like he's on the decline at this point.If he can't take bumps in the lane to get to the line cause he's wearing out his body, then he won't be much of a commodity for fantasy ball. Korver's playing style is less taxing on his body, so he stands a better chance of staying off the IR list.
- Dillon Dillon Apr 13, 2014 10:15 PM Flag
Thanks CWiz, you're always good for some solid insight, much appreciated.
DJ is looking like the most solid choice. I had high hopes for Monroe that I suppose I should re-evaluate my estimation of him. Thanks again for the straight forward perspective here.
18 team H2H 8 cat plus DDs as a 9th cat. 3-keepers
Curious to see where people stand on these three players. Oladipo is primed for a breakout next season, Monroe is gonna be earning a big contract and expected to earn it wherever he ends up and Jordan had a monster year, but can he keep it up for another season?
My top 2 keepers are CP3 and Paul George.
- Dillon Dillon Mar 17, 2014 1:17 AM Flag
Coach Malone doesn't have a good option at PF for the Kings, so he's playing the matchups. When the Kings play against big front courts, Evans will start and likely get 20+ minutes. Against up-tempo teams that play small ball, the Kings will give more floor time to Derrick Williams at the PF spot and Reggie Evans will see the bench a bit more. Jason Thompson will pick up most of the backup PF minutes and back up all the C minutes that DMC isn't playing. It's a 3-way time share for the Kings right now cause none of these guys are really starter caliber players in the NBA. That said, Evans is consistent on the boards and will give you pretty much nothing else, I'd guess you can find better options.
- Dillon Dillon Feb 16, 2014 2:14 PM Flag
Thanks for all your input, it was helpful to have some other perspectives. In the end I went with Jordan here. I agree with others here that Milsap is the better all around player, but Jordan's dominance on boards, blocks, FG% and DDs really really pushed him above Milsap for H2H play. Milsap particularly outplays Jordan in steals and would be an improvement in FT%, but I have plenty of steals from other players. I'll just be weak in FT%, but I'll be strong enough everywhere else to compete or be dominant. Thanks again.
- Dillon Dillon Feb 13, 2014 7:06 PM Flag
I don't trust anyone in a Lakers uniform right now except maybe Pau, and who knows if he'll be there the ROS.
That said I'd rank the bigs here as follows
Williams (For whatever reason, Corbin loves his Marvin)
Pachulia (injuries in MIL and veteran savvy are pretty much keeping him relevant)
Wright (I haven't really bought the hype on this guy, but the Mavs should start giving someone a real shot and Wright is their only upside player in the frontcourt; he's a gamble)
(tie) Pat Pat, R.Kelly, J.Hill (Guessing when and where these guys will play big minutes is beyond my vision)
Stoudemire (I don't like players that I have to check in on every single day to see if they're broken)
For the guards, and there is really very little difference among this group, I'd rank them:
Roberts (I think Holiday has a long recovery ahead of him)
Brewer (I like the steals and occasional blocks and threes here)
Dunleavy (decent glue guy to have on your bench if you need him, Thibs is gonna roll with him as long as he's on the Bulls roster)
Lee (Memphis likes this guy and he's been an upgrade over Bayless. But with Calathes showing up, Tony Allen returning and Mike Miller still logging time he'll be hard pressed to hold onto the big minutes he's been getting. If the Grizz ever decide to bury the corpse of Tayshaun Prince, all the wings in Memphis would be able to soar a little higher.)
Singler (decent threes and points with some boards tossed in. I don't know what direction Detroit is heading. A JSmoove trade would do Singler well, a move to get C-Pope Stuckey more floor time could hurt him. He's a wait and see guy worth a hold for now)
Farmar (Maybe he gets it going, and if he does move him to the top of the pile, but the crowded backcourt doesn't bode well for anyone in LA)
Wes Johnson (I don't trust this guy for fantasy and am not a fan of his game)
Wolters (he's looking like a flavor of the week guy, and nothing out of Milwaukee tastes good for too long. I hope he proves me wrong
I would strongly consider that deal, but would push for a bit more. Iggy is the 4th or 5th option in Golden State and his numbers are reflecting that this season. D-Will is worth selling while you can, I don't trust him to stay healthy, Brooklyn doesn't seem to know what the pecking order is and everyone is siphoning opportunities from each other; basically that team is a mess and I'm staying away from all Nets players this season. I think it's a good time to trade both of these players while they're healthy.
Jameer stands a good chance of being traded (the Magic have made it widely known that he is available). Klay is a three point machine and he dabbles in all the other cats.
I would try to get someone better than Jameer off of the other side here if you can. He comes with two questions marks: Will he be traded to a team where he isn't starting any more? If he stays, will he take a back seat to finish the season so Oladipo can log big minutes? He's a solid 2nd-3rd tier PG, but these are pretty valid concerns going forward.
Everyone else here is a projected starter for the rest of the season no matter where they play, making Jameer the odd man out in this group. Also since you don't count TOs or percentages, D-Will gets a bump from where he would be in a standard 9 or 8 cat league. I think you can get more, but I think you'd still be wise to trade these two away. Since your league is splitting boards (and pretty much double counting OREB) I would try and get a big man off the other side instead of Jameer. Good luck.
I'd say you'd be getting a steal if you could pull this off. I'm riding Hawes til the wheels fall off, and I do believe the wheels will be falling off, because I can't trade him for anyone decent. I bet you get a quick rejection here, but it doesn't hurt to try.
- Reply to John Feb 7, 2014 10:53 PM
I'm not sure any PG owners believe that his recent shooting slump is gonna last the rest of the year. This offer is pretty bad. I own PG in my main league and I would turn this down without a doubt. Wade is a mess and a pain to have on your squad and Crawford goes back to being a bit 2 dimensional as soon as CP3 returns this weekend. George is a stud going through a slump, if you think you can buy this low for him good luck, If you're on the side giving him up here, don't.
Foolish people make foolish mistakes. That's the only explanation I can give you there. They're both still great players, maybe one dude has a thing for Noah, so I wouldn't get my hackles up over a trade like this too much; it's just not so massively one-sided that I'd be flipping out. I could definitely see others not liking it, but most people don't like something about someone else's trade. Trades are part of the game, good, bad or ugly. I would, however, certainly make fun of whoever got Noah in this deal if I was in that league.
It certainly favors the side that is getting Davis, but let's not pretend that Noah is a scrub here. I'd let that trade pass, congratulate the side getting Davis, poke fun at the side that gave him up and play on.
So you want 2 top tier big men in exchange for 3 2nd-4th tier big men. Good luck with that. Seems like every league needs the owner that is in love with their players just cause they're on his/her squad, likes to send out low ball offers and is confused by the rejection. I'm more surprised at how often people are successful at pulling off a bad deal like this. That said, go for it and expect to get turned down instantly. If the other owner is a bonehead and accepts then laugh all the way to the bank with it. If you really want those two elite big men, you're likely gonna have to give up an elite player yourself.
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