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- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 11, 2015 9:13 AM Flag
I think you meant too slow. I normally don't point out typos, but when you're specifically insulting someone's intelligence, you should at least have a firm grasp of the English language.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 10, 2015 4:38 PM Flag
His health issues, too, are overblown. Look at his ABs over the past 7 seasons.... not nearly as Tulo-esque as some seem to imply. A lot missed in 2012 (three years ago is a long time), but the big gap is the 2010 year, which (correct me if I'm wrong) was the result of a freak collision with Adrian Beltre. This is not like Jose Reyes and his chronic Hammy issues...
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 10, 2015 2:10 PM Flag
"There is only one version of Votto"... oh, if only that were true, and no one ever declined but kept their career averages in perpetuity, then Wade Boggs would still be playing 3B for the Sox. That's a nice dream.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 10, 2015 1:06 PM Flag
Rosario has the potential to be better. Much better. But he's #2 on the 1B depth chart and #3 at C for his team. I don't know that Morneau can stay healthy, but if he goes down you pick Rosario back up again. If you play in a league with like 6 bench spots, probably not, but if you play with 2, 1... or even NO bench spots, how do you hold on to Rosario for however long it's going to take for a possible injury?
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 10, 2015 12:50 PM Flag
In a vacuum, I like Ellsbury more than Upton anyway... but even if I liked Upton more, they are quite close, so if you need steals I would absolutely make that deal.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 10, 2015 11:59 AM Flag
"Unless you are selling an indexed annuity the averages tell the complete picture." Good line... certainly that's how I manage my resources, through one-liner slogans rather than actual critical thinking. I'd counter that unless you're bringing back the younger version of Votto who once achieved the performance that created those stats, you're going to find that his 162 game average is about as useful for the 2015 season as the 162 game average of the now deceased Babe Ruth. After a steady 3 year decline, Votto no longer reaches ANY of those marks. Do you play in a league that scores based on career stats? I don't. My league only counts 2015 stats.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 7:40 PM Flag
Anyone who's taken even a first year intro to stats class can tell you how incomplete a picture averages can provide, and how easily they can be manipulated to "prove" just about anything. Votto's numbers as you present them look great... until you actually look at how he's trending. His numbers are heavily skewed by his performance from earlier seasons. That 2010 performance sure was outstanding. Is the doc bringing that Votto back in the DeLorean? Because the Votto of 2015 has a huge health asterisk, and his speed and power have dried up. Guy hit .255 last year. You want to talk BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS? It's deliberately disingenuous to do so without mentioning that all are in a 3 year decline.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 7:24 PM Flag
Well then, you were the unknowing beneficiary of ADP. Hilarious... while dismissing it, you actually fell #$%$ backwards into profiting from it.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 7:22 PM Flag
#$%$: "Obviously that is the only criteria you use. It must suck to be unable to formulate your own conclusions and to only be able to utilize others thoughts and opinions."
You could only type that sentence if you didn't read my post... that, or you did but are being deliberately obtuse in order to troll. Given your behavior on this board, either is equally likely.
I clearly described that I don't use ADP to judge players, but rather that I use the fact that others do so to exploit them, something I would think we would (and should) all do... well, except you, apparently. You are correct that I utilize the thoughts and opinions of others... to capitalize on them, rather than to adopt them as my own as you would imply.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 6:36 PM Flag
And anyone who doesn't use ADP when making predraft rankings is a fool that is just giving away value. Last year, Jose Abreu was going on average in my mocks late in the 9th round. I believed (correctly, as it turned out) that he was going to go off in a big way, a second or third round value. But just because that's where I valued him didn't mean I was foolish enough to actually DRAFT him in the second or third round, that would be throwing away resources for no reason (and that's what each draft pick is, a resource). I drafted him in the 8th, because that's where my personally measured ADP told me I could get him while maximizing value in the rounds prior.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 6:22 PM Flag
Perhaps I am misunderstanding the argument here, but you just gave a perfect example of how to use ADP.
You seem to think that people are telling you that you should be using ADP as a personal evaluation tool.
What they are actually saying is that you use ADP as an exploitation tool, just as per the scenario you described above re. Rios and Cargo. You know that you personally value a player as being superior to how they are generally perceived, you KNOW how they are generally perceived because ADP tells you so, and you exploit any such gaps that you can find.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 6:15 PM Flag
ADP matters at this time of year, in that it is a measure of how others (including your league mates, in all likelihood) value someone. Sure, YOU may use the criteria you've cited above to evaluate, but you're not trading with yourself (unless you own multiple teams in the same league?) You're trading with "others", and ADP can inform re. how those "others" typically value player A vs. player B, at least to an extent.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Apr 9, 2015 6:09 PM Flag
I could see that too. Bring down the average a bit, and the SBs. Ownable, especially in 5 OF leagues. Moving the needle is relative to league and settings, but it would take more than that to knock the socks off of a typical 3 OF mixed leaguer. That would be great at 2B for sure.
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