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- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 13, 2014 12:52 PM Flag
"The Sad Truths of Internet Trolls:
1.Trolls are immune to criticism and logical arguments. True trolls cannot be reasoned with, regardless of how sound your logical argument is.
2.Trolls do not feel remorse like you and me. They have sociopathic tendencies, and accordingly, they delight in other people having hurt feelings.
3.Trolls consider themselves separate from the social order.
4.Trolls do not abide by etiquette or the rules of common courtesy.
5.Trolls consider themselves above social responsibility.
6.Trolls gain energy by you insulting them.
7.Trolls gain energy when you get angry.
8.The only way to deal with a troll is to ignore him, or take away his ability to post online."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 3:47 PM Flag
"Question: What Is an Internet 'Troll'? How Should I Deal With Trolls?
Answer: An internet 'troll' is an abusive or obnoxious user who uses shock value to promote arguments and disharmony in online communities. Named after the wicked troll creatures of children's tales, an internet troll is someone who stirs up drama and abuses their online anonymity by purposely sowing hatred, bigotry, racism, mysogyny, or just simple bickering between others. Trolls like a big audience, so they frequent blog sites, news sites, discussion forums, and game chat. Trolls thrive in any environment where they are allowed to make public comments.
At the lighter end of the troll spectrum, trolls can be personal friends who like to goad and joke with their buddies online. In this case, 'trolling' will mean 'stop hassling me, or I won't invite you to my birthday party'.
At the harsher end of the troll spectrum, trolls are cruel and malicious users who want to set an online community on fire with hate and discord."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 2:34 PM Flag
"Online trolls have serious personality issues such as Machiavellianism, one of the biggest studies into trolling has found.
Researchers say that online commenters display traits that are Narcissistic, psychopathic, and sadistic and the worse the problems, the longer the person spent online.
They found the most common trait was to exhibit sadistic behaviour."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 2:24 PM Flag
"A “troll”, in internet slang, is someone who deliberately upsets others by starting arguments or posting unnecessarily inflammatory messages on blogs, chatrooms, or forums. In recent years, it’s gotten so bad that YouTube needed to develop a way for users to moderate their video’s comments section, and Popular Science shut down its comments section entirely. Indeed, for trolls, the anonymity of the internet is the perfect playground."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 1:59 PM Flag
"They're Not Worth the Energy.
In the end, do you really need to waste your energy worrying about what one or two sad, bored people are saying about you? No. Blogger Scott Stratten explains the concept of "emotional currency" and how it relates to dealing with trolls:
"In a nutshell, you only have so much emotion to go around. It should be spent on people who value it, who value you, not some douchenozzle that just finished a 36-hour bender on World of Warcraft and is #$%$ his wizard lost an epic battle on the island of Corinthian. There are way too many incredible people in this world, and Twitter especially that are worth your time."
Just because the internet has a lot of psychos doesn't mean it isn't full of awesome people, and time spent arguing with trolls is time that could have been spent having meaningful discussions with others. Furthermore, he says, time spent worrying about what trolls thing is time you could have spent on the people that actually matter. Do you really want to drain your energy on something that isn't worthwhile?"
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 1:44 PM Flag
"They're Attacking Boredom, Not You.
One of the easiest ways to spot a troll is their completely lack of reason. Trolls will lash out and be purposely offensive to draw you in, rather than actually saying something of value. In their statements, you'll see a very "I'm right and everyone else here is wrong" attitude. Chris Shiflett over at Swiss Miss put it best:
"The lesson I've learned is to be wary of those who [take pride in disliking things]. The ones who seem to think that being critical is the same as having good taste. Those people almost never have good taste, so their opinions don't matter.
So, even if what you've done isn't so great, just remember that those who can't say so with grace, those who seem to take pride in criticizing you, their opinions don't matter. It may very well be that you've created a masterpiece, and they're just children."
He says it doesn't take any sophistication to be a graceless critic, and he's dead on—if there isn't anything of value in their statement, then you shouldn't be putting any weight on it. Don't let the haters affect you; they're hating because they're bored, not because you've necessarily done anything poorly."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 1:31 PM Flag
"Don't Feed the Trolls. You've probably heard this phrase numerous times before. It's the cardinal rule of being in an internet community, and with good reason. Avoidance is and has always been the best course of action, hands down. The majority of trolls thrive on the confrontation—after all, their singular goal is to get attention—so the more you ignore them, the better. Downvote their comments or block them if you're on a forum that supports such features, and move on. It's incredibly tempting, but try to ignore them the best you can. Don't respond to them, not even to call them out as a troll, and they'll go away. Even a simple comment like "please stop" or "go away, troll" can bring attention to their comments (either by lengthening the thread or, in some forums, actually causing that thread to move higher in the chain). If a troll returns to their computer with zero replies, however, or if their comment just floats to the bottom of the thread, they'll go looking somewhere else for the attention they crave. Showing them that you can be baited, even a little bit, is just asking for more."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 12, 2014 1:03 PM Flag
Claire Hardaker explores the psychological motivations of trolls in her Ph.D. thesis Trolling in Asynchronous Computer-Mediated Communication. She concludes that "trolls intention(s) is/are to cause disruption and/or to trigger or exacerbate conflict for the purposes of their own amusement."
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 10, 2014 2:59 PM Flag
1) Is your malfunction all about thumbs down? I've never seen someone cry so much over so little. Holy fock. And by the way, it's pretty funny calling me obsessed when I've long forgotten you while you're still publicly talking about me on multiple boards. Gross.
2) On the topic of the great conspiracy of how I saw your posts: where do you think you post these things? In a personal word file on your PC or some low traffic midieval recreation enthusiasts website? I saw your post because it was on a Yahoo fantasy sports message board. All of our posts, from the moment we first encoutered each other, are on the Yahoo fantasy sports message boards. This thread, right now, is on Yahoo's fantasy sports message board.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 9, 2014 2:40 PM Flag
How did I know you were addressing me? You typed "Crasstastic" in post after post, how could I miss it? Is this a serious question? Did you think this through before you typed it out? I may not have posted anything, that doesn't mean I stopped reading posts. Fock you're stupid.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 9, 2014 12:49 PM Flag
I think that your response means that you believe Gregory and I are one and the same. We're not, but I definitely agree that you should delete your thread if you feel it's been hijacked by stupidity. One of the main failings with these message boards is that Yahoo doesn't assign moderators to curtail junk like this. My own response here probably qualifies as junk, actually, but I just wanted to chime in and make it clear that 1) I'm not Greg; and 2) that I strongly think Greg should knock off his trolling nonsense and stick to debating sports on these boards. Without moderators, fat chance though.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 9, 2014 12:23 PM Flag
I'm trying not to engage, because I don't want you to ruin the football board like you did the baseball one with your flamewars, but... who are you talking to? Is all this crazy babble about your thumbs up/down count? Let it go.
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Sep 9, 2014 12:20 PM Flag
Greg, let it go. I have. I only addressed you in that board because you were referring to me, over and over, because you are delusional. I deleted the posts because I felt it was needless to create a flamewar and wreck yet another board like we (and by we I mean you) did the baseball one. I did not as you claim admit to creating multiple accounts, but I continue to think it's simultaneously funny and sad that you believe so. Everyone knows I'm neither King nor Harry as both users had a long history of posting before I ever got into a flamewar with you.... and in fact the main account that you think is also me (Harry) was someone who I was arguing with the first time you ever commented on a post of mine. To suggest I created Harry to thumb you down when I was fighting with him the very first time I ever saw a post from you is straight up loony tunes. That you continue to obsess over me and talk about me is confusing. How am I stalking you when I haven't had a word to say to you since Aug. 23, apart from my addressing your specifically naming me for no reason on the football board?
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Aug 23, 2014 6:15 PM Flag
"The schizophrenia is bad today I see." So that's your response to a complete depantsing of your alt account running joke? Poor mush brain...
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Aug 23, 2014 6:14 PM Flag
Your premise is broken because it's based on the assumption that my determination to veto (or not) is based on baseball value. I veto based on a simple non-baseball related determination: was there collusion in the trade or not? So you relating it to baseball knowledge or lack thereof makes you look dumb because baseball knowledge isn't part of the equation. And you know that... you don't legitimately lack understanding of all this as we've been over it before. It's just another opportunity for you to take a shot, which marks you as a troll. So we've determined (again) that you are both stupid and a troll. 2C%L was attempting to get a détente, but you're thirst for conflict was obviously scared shiteless over that prospect. Really lonely, eh?
- Crasstastic Crasstastic Aug 23, 2014 5:29 PM Flag
And Gregory, it occurs to me now that considering my very first encounter with you was during a debate with Harry of all people over the Eric Young thing, it makes it even more awesome that HE'S the one that you forever claim is my alt account. We'd have never even crossed paths except for the fact that you backed him up against me in that debate! But I guess you'd need to have a fully functioning brain to remember that far back, or to put those pieces together to form a coherent picture. Or perhaps, I had an argument with Harry in order to lay the groundwork for you and me because the Doc had lent me the DeLorean for the weekend, me and Marty had travelled ahead in time so I knew I'd need to establish the bona fides on my alt accounts? Yeah, that sounds plausible....
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