Commissioner Corner Message Board
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 5:57 PM Flag
Thanks for the responses so far guys. I currently have Thompson, while Davis and Gobert are FA's. Gobert REALLY interests me, but I'm concerned with trading off a PF/C eligible player for a guy who is only C eligible... But I guess it wouldn't be too too bad. We only start:
PG, SG, SF, PF, C, Util, Util each day. And if I got rid of Thompson I would have Millsap, Favors, Anthony Bennett and Teletovic as PF eligible guys. 4 guys with PF eligibility is fine, except I'm not really sure how big of a role Bennett will play, and I'm only planning on plugging in Teletovic when I need extra 3's.
I'm not a big fan of Thompson at all, but in a deep league he still has value and I'm a little hesitant to drop him after he put up a solid preseason showing. I really like Gobert but I'm not sure how many minutes he'll get this season. I'm also not a fan of Enes Kanter but I would assume the Jazz will want to give him more run this year and hope that he improves from last year.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 1:11 PM Flag
1st impression is this will be a decent team, but will struggle with PG stats.
I do think you have a handful of players that are sometimes overlooked. I think Horford will have a great season and could actually return 1st round value. I also think a TON of people are overlooking Luol Deng, who could be good on most nights, and GREAT on nights that D Wade doesn't play. Gortat and Matthews are also usually underrated.
I'm not a fan of Randolph simply because he doesn't provide enough outside of PTS and REBS. I think Olynyk could have a solid year. I'm not a fan of JR Smith, at all, period.
Who are some FA's? I think there could be someone with more value than Dunleavy and more upside than Randle. I know Randle has upside, just not sure how he'll produce in his rookie year with Boozer in town, as well as Ed Davis and Jordan Hill playing well.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 1:06 PM Flag
I think he'll have a good season overall, but with typical rookie growing pains. Going off for 28 1 night, and then shooting 2 for 13 the next for 5 points. I think his defense will be nice but think it will take him a while to stay consistent on the offensive end.
I'm also not sure that he can average 20PPG this season as long as Thad and Martin are both healthy.
Just my guess though.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 12:36 PM Flag
The 1st thing that stands out to me about this team that I like, especially for roto, is how the majority of your players contribute in multiple categories. You don't have many "specialists", and you also don't have many players that are going to absolutely destroy you in any specific category, although Knight's FG% can hurt when he takes high volume, but I'm expecting a few less attempts this year which might actually improve his % as well.
1 thing I don't particularly like though is the risky picks. Lawson has injury risk, Gallo does too and also has a risk of not being a major contributor right away, Hibbert SHOULD have a bounce back year but that's a bit of a risk too, Evans is always going to be an injury risk, while guys like Kanter and Porter have undefined team roles right now.
Besides that I think FG% is going to be a weakness. Lawson, Evans, Sullinger and Knight all had pretty bad FG% last year at relatively high volume, while Hibbert also had really bad FG% for a center.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 11:48 AM Flag
If this were my team I'd try to package Monroe and Lopez for a top talent/healthy PF/C, and then pick up Dieng or Plumlee.
If you could find someone willing to take on Lopez's injury concerns and Monroe's lack of blocks and have them give up a legit top 30 player I'd take it all day. It all depends on how the other manager views those 2 guys, but I'd feel comfortable shooting out some offers for Bosh, Drummond, Millsap, Horford, Noah, M Gasol. If you could land 1 of them AND pick up Dieng/Plumlee, or even a guy like McDaniels or Hardaway I'd say you've done a great job.
Between Chandler and Plumlee, I'd have to go with Chandler. He has a more garunteed role.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 11:42 AM Flag
That's a tough call. It all comes down to 2 things for me... 1) Can you afford to stash your best player for a decent chunk of the fantasy season? 2) Are you competitive in FT% with Jordan?
Whether you do the tarde or not, I'd personally rather have McDaniels than Kanter.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 11:38 AM Flag
Oladipo regardless of which Harris you are talking about.... Oladipo over Tobias AND Devin combined lol.
I like Tobias a lot, but Dipo isn't nearly as overrated as Pops seems to think.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 26, 2014 11:36 AM Flag
Wait, I'm confused? This is a KEEPER league, and not the 1st year, yet somehow Durant, Lebron and Davis are available?! Are you guys not allowed to keep 1st round picks or something?
Anyways, I think who you draft at 3 depends on your keeper rules. If the player you are drafting is just for this year and is someone you are not allowed to keep at the end of the season, I think I'd pass on Durant. Assuming that Davis and Lebron are both gone, I'd rather have someone like Curry, especially since that would mean you'd have a PG, a SG/SF and a PF/C already and you can start to target best available players after that. Durant is just going to miss too many games for me to take him over Curry, unless like I said, you can keep Durant the following season.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 12:33 PM Flag
I also just read an article from the Orlando Sentinel that brought up 2 former Magic players that fractured a bone in their face. It obviously can't be a direct comparison because everyone heals differently and the actual bone that got fractured on Dipo hasn't been release yet, but Courtney Lee fractured his face (nasal) had surgery and returned 10 days later playing with a mask.
Hedo Turkoglu fractured his (cheekbone) had surgery and returned 20 days later.
So it seems like there's a possibility that even if Dipo's was more serious, he could return fairly quickly. But nobody knows until official reports come out.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 12:28 PM Flag
So I'd really suggest sending out some offers yourself, and not settling for what's offered to you. David Lee and Amir Johnson are my 2 least favorite bigs on your squad. With Lee, I'm not a fan of bigs that don't block shots OR hit 3's. The points and rebs are nice, but they have to do at least 1 or the other to be on my roster. But still he has decent value. He should be able to net you a SG that is much better than any on your current roster. Amir Johnson could so net you a very nice backup PG.
Or you could also probably make a package deal with 1 of htem and another role player on your squad, or the 2 of them combined and trade for a highly touted player with both PG and SG eligibilty. Someone who can both score, and get assists.
If you can trade Lee for Monta Ellis, or Lee +1 for Ellis I'd do it in a heartbeat.
That's just a quick example, the specifics obviously revolve around both team's needs.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 12:23 PM Flag
I think your analysis is pretty spot on Mason. You would be giving up a a total of 1 SF, 2 PF and 1 C, and getting 2 SG, 1 SF, 1 PF and 1 C in return. Which equals out to you gaining 2 SG's and losing 1 PF. From strictly a positional standpoint that doesn't make the most sense. In a multi-player deal like this you'd be better off trying to gain both a PG and a SG in return.
From a value standpoint it's not bad, but I just don't think it's the best move for you. Gordon is NICE when healthy, but constantly injured and needs the ball in his hands to be most effective which might not happen as much with a healthy Holiday and Evans. Kawhi is a great player and deserves a lot of the praise he's gotten lately, but still a bit overrated IMO. Not vastly overrated, but a bit. And even though Duncan has continued to prove people wrong the last couple seasons about his value going down with age, that's not a bet I'd be willing to take on again this year. He could very well have nice value, or father time coudl actually finally catch up with him.
If you go strictly by Yahoo rankings (which I don't recommend, I just use that as a gauge for how OTHER managers value players) the deal is pretty fair, and O-ranks actually make this deal look good in your favor. BUT don't get caught up in that. To me, Bosh and Leonard are pretty even, as are Gordon and Jones. And while Duncan has proven to be much more valuable in the past than JV, I like JV's upside and I'm on team JV breakout this year!
But beyond the actual player values in this deal, consider team needs. With 7 big men, you can afford to trade 1 or 2 of them and get exactly what you want in return, and not have to settle.
I'm still high on Chalmers even after an awful preseason, although I'm sure I'm in the minority there, but you could still use a 3rd legit PG. You also could really use a starting caliber SG. I'm not sold on Foye having a repeat year with Aflalo and rookie Harris in town, and Tucker might not get as many mintues
- CWizzle by CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 12:09 PM Flag
I have my own opinion no him as a player and as a fantasy player, but I'm looking for other's opinions.
I'll start by saying that he is nobody that I'd target in a standard league. BUT I have seen him getting drafted in standard leagues this year due to some very nice pre season performances, granted that was before Varejao got the nod as the starter over Thompson, although everyone knows Andy V's injury concerns.
So, outside of standard re-draft leagues, how do people feel about Thompson in a deep (18 team) dynasty league format? He obviously has SOME value in that format, I'm just trying to see how much value other people think he has.
Last year Yahoo ranked him 174, and he was 0.8 rebounds shy from averaging a double double, with decent %'s, but not great, relatively low TO's, but not much else to speak of. A combined 1.8 for assists, steals and blocks is kind of embarrassing IMO. But I'll give him credit for averaging 12 PTS, 9 REBS, 1 STL and 0.7 BLK while shooting 54% from the field and 83% from the line in just 23 MPG this preseason.
Yahoo has the following guys with O-ranks in the same general range:
Tristan Thompson (159)
Miles Plumlee (141)
John Henson (146)
Omer Asik (147)
JaVale McGee (161)
Brandan Wright (163)
Spencer Hawes (168)
Tiago Splitter (176)
Cody Zeller (195)
Brandon Bass (204)
Kyle O'Quinn (233)
Ed Davis (275)
Steven Adams (309)
How many of those players would you rather have in a dynasty league over Thompson?
FYI, both %'s and FGM/FTM are counted, as well as O-Rebs (and D-Rebs).
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 11:44 AM Flag
OK I can respect that. I guess we just have slightly different definitions of sleepers. To me a true sleeper is someone who is being vastly overloooked by the majority of people, or going mutliple rounds lower than you expect them to, not just players who are projected to be around 50 and are being drafted at 60. But I get your point.
As far as your keepers go, where did you hear that Dipo is out for the year?!! Last I heard was he was having surgery and was out "indefinitely". This just means there is no set timetable for a return. Players that have been listed out indefinitely have ended up being out from anywhere from a week to the full season. So, unless I missed a recent update I've heard no info that Oladipo is out for the year!?
I'd probably keep Dipo anyways, but if you have to let him go, I'd probably go with Lillard and Rose, but I'm pretty up in the air on the 3rd one. At this point I might actually take West @$7 over Lopez, although $4 would turn into an insane value if Lopez gets healthy. Without the prices I'd probably take the chance on Sanders or go with West, but no way in hell would i spend $35 on Sanders.
So I'd probably go: Lillard, Oladipo, Rose
Lillard, Rose, West.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 11:06 AM Flag
Well if you really want Lillard, the other team clearly needs an upgrade at the SG/SF position and you ahve a plethera of them. They also need a shot blocker, but I'd rather keep your 3 bigs.
Honestly though, unless you can somehow unload MC-W in this deal, why would you be trying to get another PG when have plenty of depth there already?
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 11:03 AM Flag
Wait, did you just say, "Ibaka isn't good?" He's going late 1st/early 2nd round in ALL leagues. He's a top 15 player all day long, how is he not good?!!
I wouldn't do the trade, mainly because you would have to be counting on both Dragic and Parsons' stats to fall off a little this season. Which could happen with Dragic if Bledsoe stays healthy and Thomas stays relevant, but I wouldn't count the DRagon out. I also wouldn't count out Parsons just because he will compete with Monta and Dirk for shots, I think he'll return very similar value from last year. Ibaka would be nice for your team because you could definitely use a 2nd shot blocker to compliment Howard. Your other 3 main bigs (Griffin, Lee and Anderson) are not known as shot blockers. And you have decent depth at PG, but I still wound't pull the trigger if this were my team. Instead I'd try to find a deal where you give up just 1 of your PG's for a shot blocker.
I also would feel comfortable dropping Pek for Jennings, if you are talking about Brandon Jennings. Actually if you are talking about Greg Monroe I'd do that too lol. Either way, I just don't think Pek will stay healthy or play enough minutes to duplicate last year's stats, and even then he didn't overly impress me.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 10:56 AM Flag
Even with that Points system, there is just NO way you let Cousins get away. Keep him and be happy about your decision.
With assists and steals both being worth 2 points, and zero points awarded for 3PTM I'd rank Rondo as your 2nd best option, but still, take Cousins!
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 10:53 AM Flag
First impressions are:
I'd let someone else take the chance on Brook Lopez. Sure, he has 1st round potential when healthy but it seems less and less likely that he'll be healthy for 82 games this year. In yahoo's drafts, Brook Lopez has a default ranking of 41. Which, if he were healthy and played all year would be an absolute steal! BUT, there are just too many other players available around that time that are MUCH more sure things. Id feel completely comfortable reaching down at grabbing Jonas Valancuinas at that point. Gortat, Favors, Faried, Gasol, even Nerlens Noel are all more intruging bigs than Lopez IMO. But there are also other players from different postions ranked in that space that are very nice too like Parsons, Hayward, Walker, Matthews, Ellis etc.
I'm also not sold on Gerald Green this year. I've been a big fan of his ever since his time with the Boston Celtics even though he didn't really play well then lol, I could still see his potential and athleticism. BUT, on a team that may go with a 3 PG lineup, and that also has guys like Marcus Morris, PJ Tucker and TJ Warren available to play SF I just don't see Green getting as many minutes as last year, or getting as many touches when he is on the court. I'd personally just try to take a better player that's available at that point, but if you NEED a SG/SF with that pick I'd rather take a chance on KJ McDaniels or Wes Johnson.
- CWizzle CWizzle Oct 25, 2014 10:37 AM Flag
It's all guesses at this point, but my guess is Steven Adams. He has shown flashes of his potential in pts, boards and blocks and there's just NO way that Perkins can take all the minutes away from Adams this year. They just HAVE to let Adams develop out there! Meanwhile Bargnani can show what he can do when he's healthy and focused and in a good situation, but he has also shown even more often what he does when just 1 of those 3 things goes missing. And while you can never fully dismiss a player who's just 28 years old who has averaged 20+ PPG for an entire season, and can both shoot well from the line and hit 3's as a big man, I still wouldn't put too much faith in Bargs being that type of player this year. Not to mention if you look at the most recent reports it seems like his current injury woes are more serious than initially expected.
So, Bargs has had a ridiculous history with injuries, has NEVER been a consistent rebounder as a 7 footer, is starting the year injured, to the point where he needed an MRI, and has already been criticized by Phil Jackson who was critical of his defense and lack of diversity in his offensive game.
Add all that up, and I take Adams over Bargs 10 times out of 10. ALthough, I also wouldn't put too much stock into Adams fully breaking out this year. It's a possibility, but I think he'll just have a moderate improvement from last year, and take another season or two to fully break out.
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