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Not a bad squad but at a quick glance it looks like teams that are stacked with 3 point shooters or elite PG's might give you trouble (depending on how Kemba comes back and which Rondo shows up when you need him.) It's also hard to get a feel for your %'s. You have a couple horible FT% guys like Drummond and Rondo but at least neither are crazy high volume FT shooters. You also have some pretty bad FG% guys like Rondo, Kemba, Mo-Will and Smart.
Having Butler out is going to hurt. If Duncan rests it will hurt, and if the bad Rondo shows up it will hurt.
I'd say you have a 60/40 chance at winning, but that's obviously a total guess.
Your bigs should at least help you be competitive in FG%, REB, and BLKs.
Even though a lot can change from now til then, I'm still looking ahead and trying to figure out who to drop form my dynasty league before our next rookie draft?
18 team h-2-h dynasty league with standard 9 categories PLUS O-reb and D-Reb as well as FGM and FTM.
Not exactly sure who my weakest link is? If the season ended right now I'd have the 11th overall pick in the rookie draft, my record is more likely to get worse than better since I have so many injuries.
If you had to pick today which one of these guys would you drop?
Kyle Lowry (PG) INJ
Jrue Holiday (PG) INJ
Isaiah Thomas (PG,SG)
Patrick Beverley (PG,SG)
Ben McLemore (SG)
Jeff Green (SG,SF)
Marcus Morris (SF,PF)
Jared Sullinger (PF,C) INJ
Dwight Howard (PF,C) INJ
Jusuf Nurkic (C) INJ
Joel Embiid (C) INJ
Timofey Mozgov (C)
I feel like my 2 weakest links are Green and Morris but they are also my only 2 SF eligible guys. I know I have a surplus of bigs but I don't think I could drop any of them and I like to build my team around PG an PF/C depth.
Nice, good luck. I just screwed myself over in 1 league. I turned down a couple decent offers for my Wes Matthews, and then the night of our league's trade deadline he goes out for hte season lol. Oh well. Hope you have better luck with your guys.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 5, 2015 1:42 PM Flag
I agree with Pika. Wall is the best player involved and Favors/Smart wouldn't be enough for me to part with Wall unless I was extremely desperate for a big, and especially not enough when you throw in Ed Davis too. He isnt a stud, but he offers goo FG%, rebs and blocks.
I think Favors/Jones is much more fair. But if you think that's a horrible deal then good luck. There's a reason why you think your deal was fair and the other manager declined it.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 5, 2015 1:32 PM Flag
Millsap an Whiteside give you different things. Millsap will be better for 3's, steals and assists while Whiteside should be more consistent with rebounds and a lot better in blocks. Whiteside has better FG% but Millsaps isn't bad,but on the flipside Milllsap is a big that doesn't hurt you in FT%. Even though Whiteside's attempts are low, he still is a bad FT shooter. And watching him shoot I don't think it's a case of a guy who shoots a bad percentage on 2 attempts per game, but when he gets 6 attempts per game he does much better. His stroke looks really weird and I don't see it getting better.
I think the Whiteside/Morris side has more overall value, but it all comes down to team needs.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 7:21 PM Flag
I think your depth at SG/SF is better than your depth at strictly PG so I'd probably stay put.
Tucker very well may end up having the best value for the rest of the season, but I think you need your PG's more.
But if you think you really need those extra rebounds then I think Burke is the better drop over Clarkson actually. Although I really don't know who will produce better from here on out between TB and Clarkson.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 7:16 PM Flag
If you value consistent 3's over anything else then Redick is probably the best option. But I think Tucker or Snell will have best overall production with Tucker having the best combo of 3's and steals and Snell the most likelihood to get more 3's. I think I like Tucker overall, but taking a chance on Snell could pay off with Butler gone. He's looking good so far, but Tucker has the better track record and has put up value for alonger period of time.
I don't trust Ilyasova to put up consistent value even in a 20 team league lol. If he proves me wrong while on another manager's roster I'm OK with that. I'd rather see that happen than take a chance on him and have him be a complete flop, again.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 7:12 PM Flag
Well since collusion basically means cheating or that 2 managers are working together to unfairly build a great team at the expense of the other team. If you aren't secretly working with the other manager then it's not collusion regardless of how great or awful the trade is.
I'd much much much rather have Aldridge. But if the guy with Aldridge is willing to give up the best player in the trade in order to get some depth in other positions then who are we to say he shouldn't do it? I see no real scenario where I would be willing to accept this if I had Aldridge, but maybe he really needs a SG/SF and is hoping that Johnson's scoring and 3's combined with Hibbert's blocks and the two players' combined rebounds will offset most of the lose, and gaining depth at SG/SF is worth that loss to him?
With that being said, he should be able to do much better than JJ and Hibbert IMO.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 6:02 PM Flag
I like that deal unless you really need the assists more than anything. Not that DeRozan or Clarkson are going to be getting 10 assists each every game, but they will give you more than the 3 players you are getting combined.
Now if George returns very soon and immediately goes back to his 1st round value then it's not a good deal, but I personally don't see that happening. IF he does come back soon I see him playing very limited minutes with possible nights off altogether especially if there are any back to backs.
If DeRozan's 3 assists per game average on the year and CLarkson's roughly 4 assists per game avg in the last 14-30 days is that important to you then I'd take the Whiteside offer.
The Whiteside offer is the safer option. Even if George returns at least you'll get a guy who's been a top 20 value in the last month with no reason that should slow down.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 5:56 PM Flag
I'd make that deal unless you are really really hurting for a big... Even with Faried's improved play and Lowry's slump Kyle is still the better value by a long shot. If your trade stays pending for 2 days and today counts then you'd get Lowry for 2 games this week if he plays, 1 game if today doesn't count towards that 2 day window. On the other hand you will lose either 1 or 2 games from Faried if you make the deal depending on if today counts towards the 2 day period. With or without the trade you'll have Faried for tonight's game.
To me it's worth it. Worst case scenario is you give up 1 or 2 games from Faried this week in order to stash Lowry for next week and beyond.
Without an official injury report for Lowry I'd be very surprised if he sits all week. If he plays tonight he will have had full full days plus today worth of rest. If he sits tonight and plays next game he will have pretty much an entire week of rest. Unless there is a serious injury that should be more than enough time off for him.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 12:35 PM Flag
Is Gordon Eric Gordon or Gordon Hayward? you used 1st names for some and last names for others so I'm not sure lol. I'm going to assume it's Eric Gordon who I would not keep. If it's Hayward I'd have to think hard about it because he's a VERY solid keeper IMO, just not sure I'd take him over Leonard, George or Thompson.
For 4 keepers at G,F,C,Util I think I'd have to go with these 4, although it's very tough:
G- Klay Thompson
F- Paul George
C- Demarcus Cousins
Util- Kawhi Leonard
If you win and get a 5th keepr I'd go with eitehr Horford or Drummond. Either way you'll have to just hope there is a quality PG available in your 1st round of your re-draft.
I wouldn't keep MCW because he sucks at 1/3rd of the categories in a 9 cat league. I wouldn't keep Monroe just because his role next season is up in the air an you have more stable options, including either better defensive bigs or better 3 point shooting bigs. I wouldn't keep Green because although I like him a lot, there are just better options here. I like Wiggins a lot too but with only limited positions open I can't rank him hgher than guys like Klay and Kawhi. Unless you really wanted 3's out of your big I woudn't keep Love either because as long as he's the 3rd option in Cleveland I don't think he can get back to that 1st round value. STill valuable and worth owning, just not as much as previous years.
As far as the 4 keepers I chose go, the 1 downside is 3 out of 4 play the same position. If that is a HUGE issue for you, I'd consider going with Horford or Drummond for your Util slot,but to me it's a total crapshoot as to which SG/SF you let go of.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2015 12:15 PM Flag
One of my leagues is like that, almost impossible to make a trade. But when I do see pending trades they are all crap IMO, and I would have given much more value for those players lol. Oh well. I like that trade for you a lot, especially with Bosh being out, but even with him healthy, the fact you got Gobert makes it worth it IMO. Nice one!
Would you rather have Nicholas Batum or Demarre Carroll in a 16 team h-2-h 9 category league?
I like Carroll's better FG% and more consistent scoring and 3's, but I like Batum's assists and SG eligibility.
I currrently have Batum, was offered Carroll straight up. I kinda want to take the deal but that would leave me with Wesley Mattews, Ben McLemore and Norris Cole as my only SG eligible players. Not awful, but not very good either.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 2, 2015 1:41 PM Flag
Pre all star break I would take Ariza all day, no question regardless of your roster. But in my opinion they've both been playing at a fairly equal level since the break, and with Holiday out, Rondo disappearing and Dragic being a little inconsistent on his new team along with his current back spasms I feel like you have better depth at SF than PG. That being said, Ariza does still have better value and you'd only be losing out on 0-2 assists per game on most nights.
So I think I'd still rather have Ariza. Although with your PG situation I'd try to make another deal after. If you could package Rondo with 1 of your SF's for a better PG I'd do it. Or you may be able to simply flip Ariza for a PG who's an upgrade over Burke.... Some people can't get past ranking numbers when evaluating trades and Ariza's Yahoo average ranking of 33rd on the season and 13th in the last 30 days will be more appealing to a lot of managers than Burke's season avg ranking of 152nd and 106th in the last 30 days. So even though Burke has been a top 50 or better value since the all star break, managers are likely to give up a better PG for Ariza based on his season long value. Not to mention it's easier to trade a SF for a PG than it is to trade a PG for a PG.
So basically: Yes I'd trade Burke for Ariza. But then I'd try to flip him for a better PG or make some other trade to upgrade your PG position.
If this is a dynasty league, or a keeper league where you keep a lot of players I'd reconsider. The age difference between Burke and Ariza makes Burke more appealing long term.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 28, 2015 1:01 PM Flag
I like your good trades. I feel like it's too early to see how good of a move #1 is though, it will probably take 2 or 3 years to see what type of player Jabari will be. But in the meantime that's a great move!
What size league was it that you dropped Danny Green? He's been owned all year in all leagues I'm in.
I prefer Millsap over Batum even in dynasty since they are only 3 years apart an Batum seems to either get injured or go into a major slump at least once per season. but I don't think that was a bad move overall, especially if you need Batum's skill set more.
#3 in your bad moves is weird to me. I think getting Bosh for Lopez is a great move even if Bosh was out for the season already. I just don't see Lopez having an entire year of fantasy relevance, ever again. Bosh for Gortat is a decent move for this year alone, but overall I don't like that very much at all.
But your worst moves were MUCH better than my worst move lol!
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2015 1:43 PM Flag
Your analysis of Turner is spot on. He has triple double capabilities, he's been really hot recently, but his %'s and TO's hold him back, along with his relatively low scoring totals most of the time, and the fact that it hasn't been long enough to feel comfortable saying he'll keep up his current production. Although I'll say I am very surprised he's played this well since the C's got Thomas. I knew they'd continue to develop Smart, and I knew Thomas would play big minutes and want the ball in his hands so I figured Turner would be the biggest loser from a fantasy perspective, since his best stat lines come from when he is controlling the ball. He's never had consistent value while playing off the ball. So him being able to do what he's done with Thomas around was a pleasant surprise to me.
I like Turner, but I don't love him and from a team standpoint I hope they continue to showcase him as a player who can play PG,SG or SF, build up his value and then trade him in the off season.
I really hope they continue to build around Smart, Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Jerebko, Olynyk and Sully IF he can get his conditioning better. I'd also really like to see Bass stay with the team, but only if he wants to. If he wants out, I think he's earned that.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2015 1:38 PM Flag
That's true in a way, but if you are familiar with the team and how they usually do things, looking at number of games can be of good use.
For example if the Warriors have 4 games in a week late in the season where playoff seeding has already been established then you can pretty much conclude that Andrew Bogut is either going to play limited minutes or get rested. But if they have 4 games that week and there is a 1 game difference in the standings between 2 different playoff seedings, guys like Steph and Klay are more likely to get their usual allotment of minutes.
It's all about knowing the situation and making your best educated guess. If the Jazz have 4 games in the final week it doesn't matter what their record or opponent is, you play Rudy Gobert if you own him. But if they happen to only pay 2 games that week you might be better off with someone else that has 4 games, even if Rudy is going to play 35 minutes in each of his 2 games.
So yes, number of games can be misleading if you just look at the number and go with the highest one. But it's most definitely a useful tool if you use that info in conjunction with lots of other information to figure out whats best for your squad.
As far as the original post goes and the particular players involved I'd say # of games can play a HUGE role in his decision. Andre Bogut and Boris Diaw are the only 2 players likely to be rested own the stretch, regardless of number of games. Jason Kidd might not give Henson the amount of minutes I think he deserves, but he's not going to say, "Oh we have 7 games coming up, I'm going to sit Henson out 1 of those games to keep him fresh." Same goes for nearly all of those guys. Besides Bogut and Diaw, they are all young guys who are capable of playing good minutes. With Sullinger out for the season and Olynyk still not back yet, Brad Stevens isn't going to rest Tyler Zeller based on the schedule.
So, your statement makes sense, but only in certain situations, not as a rule of thumb.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2015 11:42 AM Flag
At this point I'd rather have any of those guys over Faried. And I kind of disagree with Ed. I don't view Faried as a very tradeable player right now. In a 2 for 1 with Dirk Ithink the other manager would be only willing to give up value equal to Dirk. I don't think he'd give a better player because you threw Faried in there, making him pretty much the same as a drop candidate, especially in a 10 teamer.
I'd probably play the hot hand with matchup based decisions. But Henson for blocks, Asik for Rebs, Gallo for 3's, scoring an misc. other stats and Stuckey for 3's and scoring on a somewhat inconsistent basis from the guard position.
Right now Gallo has been hot. I'd ride him until he cools off, or until you need those rebs or blocks.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2015 11:37 AM Flag
I'm not saying whether you should or not, but I personally am not hoping on the Paul George bandwagon this year.
I own him in several keeper/dynasty leagues but in regular re-draft leagues I'd stay away if I had to give up someone with any value at all to get him. There are just too many things that have to go perfectly for him to be worth it these last couple weeks.
I think with Mo being able to play off the ball he should still have some value when Kemba returns. I don't think I'd make that move, but it's the definition of a risk/reward move. The reward could be VERY high, so it all depends on how big of a risk you consider it.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2015 11:34 AM Flag
Why would you lie? lol. I know that's a phrase but it doesn't even make sense here. Basically everyone wins leagues with their trades. When's the last time you saw someone win it all in a competitive league while making zero moves?
Anyways, I like the Lance/Jabari for DJ/Chandler move even before Jabari went down. and I also like the DJ/Kemba/Wilson for Klay/Bledsoe trade, but I think I would have stopped there. Not that your next moves were bad by any means, I think I'd just personally prefer Klay/Bledsoe/Gortat/Vasquez over Curry/Hill.
That Jackson trade doesn't look very good, but nobody ever knows how things will pan out. A lot of people thought that OKC would keep Jackson for this season and try to make a championship run with him as the 6th man and then get rid of him this summer.
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