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12 team h-2-h standard 9 category league. Keep any 5 players, doesn't effect draft at all.
Assuming I don't make any off season trades and have to pick 5 from this group, which 5 would you go with?
I'll list them approximately in the order that I currently value them, but they kind of change a little every time I think about it.
I'm pretty set on the 1st 4, but after that I'm not so sure. I like Drummond but hate his FT%.
I like Conley but his long term value isn't getting any better with his age starting to become a factor, as well as injuries. Also as a UFA who knows what team he'll be on next year, and I already have 2 solid PG's with Bledsoe and McCollum.
Thad is always consistently valuable while flying a little under the radar. But the lack of 3's and bad FT% is a concern.
I really really like Carroll, but he just hasn't been healthy enough to see what type of value he'll have in TOR.
I also really like Gordon's upside, but is his current production and future potential worth a gamble over someone more established like Conley or Drummond? I'd have a hard time making that move.
Anderson is another question mark going into next year.
As a Celtics fan I'm still not sure what type of player Smart will become or how long it will take? He just doesn't get the chance to run the show, grow and learn thru his mistakes with IT and Evan Turner facilitating.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 9, 2016 10:21 AM Flag
I still think Okafor will be a monster in points leagues for years, BUT, you forgot about Embiid and possibly two top 5 draft picks next year when you mention him Noel and Covington.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2016 12:07 PM Flag
Agreed. IMO I have about 4 guys with 2nd round potential but not bonafide 1st rounder. George is damn close though.
Anyway, I couldn't get anyone to bite on any trades. The bottom 2 teams have been inactive for a couple weeks (will probably get replaced soon) the top teams don't want to make any major moves and I don't really want to trade with the teams close to me in the standings and make them better in the process.
Guess I have no choice now but to ride this thing out and see what happens. A couple years ago I had a 14th ranked team in a 16 teamer about 2 weeks before the trade deadline, only made 1 move and somehow snuck into the last playoff spot and ended up winning it all that year (all luck!) So you never know.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 4, 2016 12:03 PM Flag
I'm personally not a fan of Okafor. I don't like his attitude and from what I've seen, which is admittedly a small sample size since it's just painful to watch too much Sixers basketball, he looks like he's not giving 100% effort at times. BUT for fantasy purposes especially in a points league and especially in a keeper league he should be very valuable for a long time. There is no denying his offensive talent.
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 2, 2016 10:29 AM Flag
I think everyone would agree with the 1st three of George, Butler and Davis. After that I would personally rank Holiday, Oladipo and Okafor fairly similar. I like Marc Gasol but I think I'd rather gamble on youth than him recovering from that injury. I mean, even if he does get 100% healthy for all of next year, unless a guy like Okafor has a complete meltdown he won't be a bad consolation prize.
So for me it would probably be: George, Davis, Butler, Okafor and Oladipo/Holiday coin toss.
It seems like every year in 1 specific keeper league that I'm in, I'm at a total loss as to what to do with my team. It started out with a bad FT% punting strategy a few years back and I've never fully recovered. Each year after the draft I feel pretty good about my squad and then due to 1 thing or another it ends up being a mediocre at best type of team. This year is no different.
Right now I am in 6th place and hold the final playoff spot and am 6 games ahead of 7th. But I'm at a point where it would take a miracle for me to make any noise in the playoffs, and it's hard to pull off a trade. I've been open to both trading up for a shot at making a run this year, or to trade quantity for quality for my 5 keepers for next year. Haven't had any luck with either.
With just 2 days before the trade deadline, what would you do if this was your squad?
12 team h-2-h 9 category (A/TO instead of TO) keeper league, keep any 5 players.
PG: Mike Conley
SG: CJ McCollum
G: Paul George
SF: Thad Young
PF: Aaron Gordon
F: Danny Green
C: Rudy Gobert
C: Andre Drummond
Util: Ryan Anderson
IL: Eric Bledsoe
IL: Demarre Carroll
Marcus Smart, Justice Winslow, Tristan Thompson, Bogdan Bodganovic, Ian Mahinmi
- CWizzle CWizzle Mar 1, 2016 11:09 AM Flag
With Gallo out for a while I think Barton is going to pick it up now. I'd honestly rather have Horford/Barton than Westbrook or Lowry for the rest of this season, but I'm sure if you asked 10 people, the other 9 would want the Westbrook or Lowry side. I just like how Horford and Barton combined give you a ton of stats and are also eligible for SG,SF,PF and C compared to just PG from the other side.
But, to get a deal done that is probably the one you'd have to part with. I still don't know if the managers would accept though. Westbrook just put up a MASSIVE triple double (again) and Lowry i averaging close to 30pts and 9 asts per game over his last 3. EVen though in reality Horford has pretty similar value, his stats lines just aren't as eye catching most of the time. And when a manager is already invested in a player it makes it pretty hard to trade them away for someone who isn't as 'exciting' even if the value is there.
Both Ibaka and Vucevic have been trending down a little lately but still have good value. If it were me I would shoot for the Conley, Dragic, Holiday, Thomas range of PG's.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 29, 2016 12:22 PM Flag
I think that'd be good move for you. But when I think of it from the other perspective, I own Lowry in couple leagues and WEstbrook in 1, and I would have to be pretty desperate for a PF/C to trade either of them for Horford. Al is nice but but both those PG's have been better than him this year and are locked into their contracts longer than Horford. I know all 3 are pretty much 1st round talents, but I would want a little more than Moore to make up the difference if I owned Westbrook or Lowry.
It's definitely close enough to be worth a try though. You never know how those managers value those guys.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 28, 2016 11:55 AM Flag
BTW, Gobert had 6 blocks in his last game, so he's not too far off from that double digit block potential. I bet next year he will get a triple double with pts, rebs and blks. If he gains some muscle over the summer and continues to learn defensive positioning I think he'll get there.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 28, 2016 11:54 AM Flag
As much as I like Winslow and think he will be special, I think I'd take Hassan here. The only way I see Whiteside's value going down is if his FT attempts go way up and his % doesn't improve at all. Honestly he's about as bad of a FT shooter as Howard but his low attempts let him still have 1st or 2nd round value.
I really like Winslow though. If he can add a consistent 3 point shot to his arsenal he could be very valuable in the future. But I still like Hassan.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 28, 2016 11:46 AM Flag
My first impression is that you should try trading 1 of your bigs for a PG, not another SF. With Barton, Leaonard, Parsons and Green you seem pretty solid at SF now and for quite a while in the future. With 4 top 50 bigs, 1 just outside the top 50 and 1 who still has top 50 potential when healthy you could definitely afford to trade 1 and upgrade your PG position which seems relatively weak.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 27, 2016 11:25 AM Flag
I think I'd rather have Schroder over Booker. And I think I'd take a chance on Winslow over either Booker or Bazemore. Winslow is just starting to play the way I thought he would at the beginning of the year. I honestly had him as my darkhorse rookie of the year winner before the season started. But swapping out Winslow for either Booker or Baze would be a pretty decent dip in 3PTM so it depends on what your needs are, but I'm thinking with your otehr SG's you could handle the loss of 3's.
And even though Bazemore has scored in double digits just once in his last 6 games I'd still rank him higher than Booker. He should get you more defensive stats. But the thing is, Bazemore probably isn't going to make any huge leaps in value the rest of the year, while Booker is so young and unproven that you never know. 2 or 3 weeks from now his numbers could be much better, or worse. He's just a kid!!
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 26, 2016 5:38 PM Flag
In a keeper/dynasty league I like Porter better. But in a regular re-draft league I like Lopez more, for the same reasons already stated. I think with Lopez's solid output all year and his recent great play you could have gotten someone in a trade with a more solidified role on their team.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 24, 2016 8:49 AM Flag
As much as I like Mack (I live in Maine and watched Mack play for the Portland Red Claws) I think Barnes will out produce him in standard leagues due to his valuable 3's, steals and blocks.
But in a Points league I guess it would depend on if any of those categories are more valuable than others? I've played in Points leagues where everything was worth 1 point each, and others where steals and blocks were worth more.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 23, 2016 2:38 PM Flag
If you are hunting blocks in a long term option I'd probably rule out Morris and Humphries. And maybe Portis because he hasn't shown yet if he can be a reliable source of blocks in a 20 MPG role.
WIth those other options I'd probably go with Cauley-Stein for his upside in blocks but a guy like Adams has been more consistent he's just less likely to get you more than 1 or 2 in any given game compared to WCS.
Nurkic has always intrigued me but has come on slower than I expected while Jokic has been great. For him it depends on how many minutes he can consistently play. IF he can block 1 or 2 a game in 15 or 18 minutes, imagine what he could do in 25-30 minutes?!
So, basically I think a lot of these guys are hit or miss for the ROY but I do like WCS and Nurkic for their upside.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 23, 2016 2:30 PM Flag
No problem. I just enjoy giving people on here my opinions. If they want to agree with me or not is up to them lol. Fair warning, many times I've been 100% wrong after making very valid points, so ya never know!
Anyway, I personally like Jokic more than Covington. for his upside from the flashes he has shown so far. But Covington has been a little more consistent and will likely keep his value for the rest of the year. I'm not sure what Denver will do with Nurkic, Laveurgne and Jokic's minutes ROY.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 22, 2016 2:03 PM Flag
I'd probably go with Fournier. But with that many players within the top 100 in your FA pool it probably doesn't matter that much. If the guy you go with isn't fitting your team, just swap him out for another one of those valuable players.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 22, 2016 2:00 PM Flag
I'd go with Clarkson and Barton for sure... For the 3rd one it gets a little trickier. Which Barnes is it, Harrison or Matt? I'd probably go with Covington for the 3rd option since his scoring is a little more consistent with a higher ceiling than Green or Matt Barnes, and probably Harrison as well.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 17, 2016 12:47 PM Flag
If it were me I'd wait 1 more day and see if the Celtics make any trades that open up more minutes for Amir. Mahinmi is injury prone and has had multiple injuries this year, but Amir's plantar fasciitus could flair up at any time and he could have an extended absence.... Looking at the game logs, Mahinmi's sticks out a little bit more because he's had more big block nights or big rebound nights, while Amir kind of flies under the radar with small but fairly valuable contributions across the board.
- CWizzle CWizzle Feb 17, 2016 12:44 PM Flag
In non keeper formats I don't think any Bosh owners are going to get anything near to fair value for him at the moment. He's a top 40 player this year when healthy. BUT he's not healthy. Normally a top 50 value would be needed to acquire Bosh but nobody in their right mind would give up a healthy top 50 player for someone who may or may not step onto the court again this year. And on the flipside, no Bosh owners are likely to trade him for scraps until his diagnosis is solidified.
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