Draft and Trade Talk Message Board
- Brock W Brock W Apr 6, 2014 10:43 AM Flag
If it were me, I would be immediately shopping Upton, Hamilton, Davis and Pujols in an effort to improve the infield and pitching staff. Here's my question: how the hell'd you manage to get Trout, Goldschmidt and Davis?
- Brock W Brock W Apr 6, 2014 10:39 AM Flag
I'd take Bruce and Belt. Yes, Trumbo is 1B eligible and that should factor into your decision. However, Bruce has about .030 points of batting average on Trumbo. In addition, Sandoval has never become the player that many hoped he would. He seems to be more .280-.290 and 20HR rather than .300 and 30. Belt still seems to be coming into his own, so we haven't seen the full upside there. I like B, but I may be in the minority.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 6, 2014 10:36 AM Flag
Unless your league employs different ones than the leagues that I am in, you won't be playing Bonifacio at short. So, personally, I think Stanton could hit 40-45 homers pretty easily, assuming he's around for the entire season. If you need the power, then yeah, I'd probably go ahead and make the deal, but I'd be looking for another shortstop and putting them on my watchlist right now.
- Reply to hivoltage3 Apr 4, 2014 8:55 PMBrock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:51 PM Flag
Dee Gordon and Billy Hamilton are not in the same class when it comes to speed. That said, when given the opportunity, Gordon is pretty good when it comes to stealing a bag. First 140 games in the league, 55 bags stolen. Last 130, 42 SB. Gordon looks, on paper, like he did the first two years. I think it probably helps to have a little job security at 2B. I'm not sure Hamilton can hit the ball like Gordon, but if he gets a .235 average, I think he's more than capable of stealing 50 bases, if not more.
- Reply to SAVE FRANK! Apr 5, 2014 10:15 PMBrock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:44 PM Flag
Well, it would be a lot easier for us to make suggestions if you were to give us league settings. If you're in a 10 team league, it's going to be a hell of a lot easier to find someone than if you're in a 20-teamer.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:43 PM Flag
Scherzer isn't the best player in the deal? It sounds like you value offense over pitching, I can get that. But, Scherzer has had two really dominant years now and he looks poised to take over from Verlander. Add to that, this is the last year of his deal, and now he's got motivation. It is giving up a lot, but Votto is covered for by Goldschmidt. Let's also be honest about Hanley. I hate the guy just as much as you apparently do. He's likely not going to play the entire season. But, I doubt he's going to miss 3/4 of it either. I'd say 1/4 is more likely. And I would say that Hanley, when healthy is potentially the best or 2nd best player in this deal. He's capable of 30/30. So, that's my argument.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:26 PM Flag
Depends on composition of your team and whom you're attempting to sell him to. In my opinion, if you could get something in the range of Jay Bruce, that would be pretty good. Not sure what those two are ranked now, but I believe the preseason had Harper at #9 and Bruce at #41, so... Yeah. What were you really hoping to get from Harper? We'll find you something in the aggregate, all Billy Beane and Moneyball style.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:04 PM Flag
Well said on Hamilton. Definitely gives me reason to pause. The real value is probably a long way off from the real value, especially in a dynasty league. I still would love a Stanton, Jones, Davis, Hamilton combination of speed and power. My upgrade at SS comes when Baez makes it up to the show later this year. I've shopped around and I even offered a guy something for Derek Jeter just so that he could be my backup. He wanted more than Goins or Hart. At that point, I wasn't very much interested any longer. As for Stanton, that boy is bull strong. You'd have a hard time convincing me to trade him. He's doing fairly well so far anyway. I appreciate the response though.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 11:00 PM Flag
In a 20-teamer, yeah. Not much of one, but a spot none-the-less. If I could get 125-150 innings of the 2012 version, I'd be more than happy. If he returned to 2008 form, I'd flip my wig. Besides, it's a DL spot. Not like there's anybody else I really need to put there.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 10:56 PM Flag
Already been done. Benched Goins and moved Murphy into utility. Walden is in a P spot. Shaw isn't because I'm not sure I trust him not to kill my team's WHIP. I meet my pitching requirements without needing Shaw. He's more of an insurance policy on Allen, I guess.
- Brock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 10:55 PM Flag
Trust me, I've been shopping Soler like a hooker spreading her legs on the street corner. No dice. Any time I try to sell Soler, folks see Baez like the hot disease free chick that just happens to be on the other corner. I'm not giving up though.
- Reply to hivoltage3 Apr 4, 2014 8:55 PMBrock W Brock W Apr 5, 2014 6:23 PM Flag
My analysis is this, if he#$%$ 255 in AAA and he did well last year in a cup of coffee appearance and he did well in Spring, then he's probably OK. If he can hit .235 and draw a few walks, I figure he's probably going to steal at least 50-60, maybe 70 bases. Even if he only steals 50, that plays in the majority of formats. I'm not saying it's worthy of where he's being drafted in standard 12 team mixers, but people go crazy over potential values and shiny new prospects that do things nobody else has ever done. In a dynasty league, I still really like his value. If I got him at the right spot in a 12 team mixer, I'd take him. If I already had a lot of power and needed some speed, I'd take him. He can still be a very valuable tool. Ride it out a while unless someone like Rajai Davis is available, someone you know will swipe 40.
Hey, 20-team, head-to-head, standard 5x5 format scoring. Keep our entire rosters from year to year aside from DL players.
C - Y. Grandal
1B - F. Freeman
2B - M. Carpenter
3B - M. Dominguez
SS - S. Castro
OF - G. Stanton, Adam Jones, R. Davis
Util - C. Hart, D. Vicideo
Bench - Daniel Murphy, M. Joyce, T. Flowers, R. Goins, J .Baez, A. Hedges, M. Machado (DL)
NA - J. Soler
SP - M. Bumgarner, Y. Gallardo
RP - D. Farquhar, R. Brothers
P - J. Paxton, J. Mejia, C. Allen, J. Nicasio
Bench - J. Walden, B. Shaw,
DL - C. Hamels, T. Walker, J. Chacin, C. Billingsley
NA - M. Appel
So... Now that you've seen the roster, thoughts? I say strong infield. Strong outfield. Could maybe use a few more steals. Hence, I've been working on a trade for Billy Hamilton. I like 2 for 1 deals. So, what two guys from my club would you move for Hamilton? Obviously injuries are an issue right now and I'm not sure who all I will drop when players start to come back, so I'm welcome to suggestions there. Off the top of my head, probably Hedges, Shaw and Nicasio first. I've been trying to work on a 2 guys for a closer deal, preferably Walden and another fringe guy. I recently traded J. Upton and T. Skaggs for A. Jones. Good deal? Also sent T. D'Arnaud off in exchange for D. Murphy. So, thoughts, suggestions, comments, ideas?
- Brock W Brock W Apr 1, 2014 10:36 AM Flag
Thank you, gentlemen. I essentially thought the same thing, but it would appear I'm higher on Gallardo than most. He does have 4 years in a row of 200Ks.