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- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler 2 hours 44 minutes ago Flag
If you can get good value for Davis now you trade him. He won't keep his job and Charles could be back any week now. And yes, I'd drop Johnson for Brown. Ivory will be more productive until he gets hurt but even then, Johnson just plain sucks.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler 2 hours 48 minutes ago Flag
Brown is more assured of a bigger workload but I think Taliaferro is the better player if he ends up taking over the job and there is a good chance he does that. There's more risk, but I'd take Taliaferro personally.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler 2 hours 52 minutes ago Flag
Floyd, unless you get points for return yards. Both have terrible QB situations but without return yards, Floyd is the better player right now.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 21, 2014 4:32 PM Flag
Did you miss the confession in this case? LOL! It's on twitter. Peterson already confessed so it won't come out later that the story was a fabrication. Your comments are ridiculous.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 21, 2014 4:30 PM Flag
Peterson bragged in tweets to the kids mother about what he did and we have all seen the pictures of the kid's beating. Peterson is not innocent, he did beat the kid and the evidence proves it. In a court of law, yes, he is innocent until proven guilty. But in the court of public opinion, he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. He made himself and the NFL look bad for what he did. The fans pay these guys salaries and the majority of the fans want him gone so he is gone. Don't be an idiot. This isn't a case where Peterson might be an innocent victim wrongly accused. Go look at the pictures and read his tweets where he bragged about beating a 4 year old child. Then go look at the comments from his kids where they talk about "the beating room" that Peterson has in his house. These little kids are all terrified of him. Damn near any company would fire an employee after all of this was made public, this isn't just because he is an NFL player. As we saw in the Rice case, the NFL will do anything to cover up evidence and give their players a slap on the wrist if they could. In this case they can't because it all went public right away. For once, the NFL and the Vikings have done the right thing.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 21, 2014 4:24 PM Flag
Innocent until proven guilty right Gregory? What crime has Hernandez been proven guilty of? Why shouldn't he be free right now and allowed to play if you claim Peterson should be allowed to play? I saw pictures of what Peterson did, I also saw a confession in his tweets bragging to the kids mother about what he did. I'm more sure of his guilt although we all know Hernandez is also guilty. Neither one should be allowed to play but your logic is flawed in this one.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 17, 2014 1:48 AM Flag
I'd rather own Robinson but I would probably start Brown this week if you owned both as we at least know he will be the guy in SD. We still don't know how the NO backfield will pan out.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 17, 2014 1:40 AM Flag
You have too many WR's. I'm assuming you can only start 2 or 3 of them in any given week? I'd drop Ivory, Gordon, Welker and Hilton in that order and try to pick up all 4. You won't get all four of them obviously, but I'd put in the waivers anyways. I'd rank them Davis, Robinson, Bradshaw and Rainey in that order.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 11, 2014 3:10 PM Flag
If you really went to law school then you would know what double jeopardy means and that it is built in to every single contract in the NFL. They legally couldn't punish him a second time for the exact same offense. The NFL has highly paid lawyers much better at the law than you that look over all of this stuff to ensure nothing comes back on the NFL.
Spousal abuse and conduct detrimental are two completely separate offenses in the NFL bylaws that carry completely separate penalties. Any player can be charged with both just like someone can be charged with murder and manslaughter in a court of law. One is much easier to prove than the other which is why the NFL rarely takes action on the detrimental rule unless they have to. They started with the spousal abuse violation because it was easier to prove and only escalated the punishment when the video was released. They can not legally increase his suspension for the same offense due to the double jeopardy clause so they went with conduct detrimental instead. TWO SEPARATE OFFENSES. If you think they are the same then you should post a link and contact Rice about how you can help him get his money back because apparently you know more about the law than the NFL lawyers.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 11, 2014 2:57 PM Flag
Are you trolling or just stupid? Look up the offenses for what he was charged for. Spousal abuse is not the same offense as conduct detrimental to the NFL. They are two completely separate violations which carry different penalties. He was initially charged with spousal abuse and later charged with conduct detrimental to the NFL. Just because you consider spousal abuse detrimental doesn't mean that the NFL rules or a court of law will look at it the same way.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 11, 2014 2:55 PM Flag
Still, you are wrong. He was never charged with conduct detrimental to the NFL until the video was released to the public. 2 game suspension for spousal abuse not conduct detrimental to the NFL. Those are two completely separate offenses and the conduct detrimental one is rarely used as it is much more difficult to prove if challenged. Spousal abuse was easy to prove because he admitted it so he was only suspended for two games which was what the NFL policy at the time called for. You have no idea what you are talking about.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 11, 2014 2:50 PM Flag
Wrong. Legally they are two completely different offenses. He got 2 games for beating his wife which is exactly what the NFL rules called for. His actions, his wife, the tape and the media created a scandal that was detrimental to the NFL and Ravens brands and so he was suspended indefinitely for it. All of that is well within the rights of the NFL and built in to every single contract that is signed and explained to every single player when they join a team. Rice was not suspended indefinitely for beating his wife. A court will look at them as two separate charges with two separate punishments.
- Andrew, Skyler Andrew, Skyler Sep 11, 2014 2:46 PM Flag
Obviously. That's why it caused a scandal and more damage to the NFL than the other cases. Most people, unless a fan of those teams, don't even know that any of those other players beat their wives. People that aren't even fans of the NFL will know that Rice beat his wife for the next decade. The Rice situation is a much bigger scandal and causes more damage to the NFL than anything except maybe the Vick and Hernandez cases.
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