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Well you gotta give to get, but if you really think so, you could try and counter for another minor piece in return by arguing Longo plays at a more difficult position to replace and that Shields is a proven 200 K sub 4 SP.... however I would not make a direct counter, but rather leave that offer up and propose a new one concurrently.
RE: your hesitation over giving away too much.. it's a lot, there's no doubt about it... but he is giving away the best player this season (and theoretically over the few) in the deal. Abreu is a freakish monster and has legit 40+ HR potential... Longo at his peak had legit 30+ potential, but that would be a pretty big reach at this point. I think the difference of Abreu going forward over Longo is, in fact worth Shields, who is very good, but far from elite... you have him, you know how he's been... he got bombed tonight... I didn;t even start him vs the Cards... I sat him on my bench because he's just not right at the moment... I think you can find a diamond in the rough via free agency if you put your mind to it and come out way ahead on this deal... but that said if you want to counter, I would do it without rejecting the current deal and not asking too much in addition back from him.
My original feeling though remains the same... I think you should take it as is.
What's up Crass... good to see you getting back to baseball, lol! I'd say that's tough... Kershaw is obviously more valuable than Gray, but at the cost of Ortiz probably depends ultimately on Team A's roster construction. If it has the power hitters to absorb the most of the loss of Ortiz and can find a decent replacement... If Singleton was available, I'd look at adding him. LaRoche next out of the 3 above. Ike Davis could be available and a decent play, but Ortiz is a tough guy to part with when paired with Gray when you;re not getting a Bat in return, even if the prize is Kershaw.
Last year we had 18 teams in a league which was very rough...this year anticipate at least 18 teams/owners again, but maybe as many as 24.
Ultimately I'd prefer to have just 1 overall winner, and I like Yahoo's system of keeping historical records of our league (this is our 5th year with Yahoo). However, since we may have too many teams, besides splitting all the teams across 2 separate Yahoo leagues with similar scoring/rules, and then just manually pitting the individual league champs against each other by seeing who had the higher score, does anyone have any other suggestions or ideas how to manage a big group of teams/owners (while still maintaining some relevant historical data within Yahoo)?
You are not giving up too much and you should do this deal before he takes it down. SHields is a nice pitcher but he isn't a keeper and he can be replaced easily.
One more team opened up.
Last 2 spots;
1) Takoma Terrors
2.) Tucson Temperature
Werth still reigns over both of the youngsters in my opinion. In Roto I'd take Polanco before Taveras and in H2H I'd take Taveras before Polanco.
damn .189 avg with a .52 ops over the last 30 days? didnt realize he got so bad so quick. he still has value cause he has a ton of steals and he plays both 2B and SS, but boy do i hate guys that only contribute in steals. if you want to trade with the EE owner, dont offer him dee gordon for EE, that would be pretty insulting and he probably wont take you seriously.
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Don't know much, article I read said not a strong track record, this years been his best, heard he might just be up for interleague matchups, I wouldn't add him but maybe keep an eye on him and see how much playing time he gets
Lol what a joke you are. So jealous, so consumed, so ignorant. Its hilarious. No such thing as lineup protection lol, speaking of dead giveaways, you pretty much just gave away that you have never seen a baseball game. Enjoy the box scores in the paper you imbecile. You're missing a great game.
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