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and hypnotize the crewcut! I see your point Randy (about my participation), but you miss my original point, it's not being here that's the problem, it's being here (a Golf Board of all places) for the sole purpose of spewing a barrage of insult and hatin' at anyone and anything that moves. It's what I experienced as a newcomer (from you as I recall), and it casts an impression of "losers". I was partly just joking around with the List, and maybe I was wrong to some extent, I see more sides also....flossin is actually kind of funny for example. I really doubt I'll have much time for this (other priorities), but if I check on my golf team, drop into the Boardies for a drive by, then all I"m asking is try to be more accepting and get off my constant ass@ with your hatinfest.