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Excellent response by David V. If he was a lawyer, he would close by saying "I rest ...

Excellent response by David V.

If he was a lawyer, he would close by saying "I rest my case."

I myself am not much of a "streamer" but I do respect their rights to play a game to whatever strategy they can think of, as long as they are not also evil commissioners.

Next season, you will know better to either limit the player moves or not allow strangers in your keeper pool. Or at the very least post some guidelines so that the streamer can delete his team before your "NO STREAMER" league starts.

I think some people are missing the point here. If it is a head-2-head league than there ...

I think some people are missing the point here.

If it is a head-2-head league than there is NO max amount of games per position. its probably safe to assume that is the case, otherwise there is no issue. if there is a max, they will run out of games, and they will lose. fair is fair.

the second thing, is that the people in the league and the commissioner that raised this issuse on this board think it is unfair. for everyone else here that thinks its ok and defends the tactic of add/drops, thats fine, maybe they are guilty themselves of using that tactic. but if the regulars in that guy's league think that its bogus that a new manager is ruining their game there is a problem. no one else is doing it. no one else wants to do it. that guys been a commissioner for 6 years and hasnt seen that problem before.

think about it:
lets say its a league 13 offensive players deep (9 forwards, 4 d). on average its 39 games per week.

but if the jerk does 5 adds a day, thats 35 extra player games from add/drops, plus the 24 games from the studs that he wont drop, thats 59 games per week. and its 63 games if he does 6 adds/day.

so now its Team A: 39 games per week vs Team B: 59 games per week.
so a +50% or so games advantage. my Math is right, you cant dispute that.
there is no reason that the other managers have to resort to his tactics. thats simply one bad apple ruining the bunch.

furthermore, its not adding guys ranked in the 200's; its guys ranked in the 100's because every team holds on to their highly drafted players that arent panning out, like Vanek, or Cheechoo, or Elias even though THEY are ranked in the 200 or 300's.

so ask that guy to stop. and block his team if he doesnt, until he learns then unblock him in a week or so.
or make a roster move limit of 50 or so. but that still doesnt seem necessesary if the rest of the league is fine.

in a head to head there is no limit to the number of games played. so streaming players i...

in a head to head there is no limit to the number of games played. so streaming players is a legit option. I actually do it in a private head to head, and two or three other teams do the same thing.

I see nothing wrong with it. It means that the more active managers have an edge, but it is an edge everyone has the option of takeing.

Stick with what you have and tell the people complaining about it that they should do the same thing.

i agree with kfox..i usually play in a few leagues and try different strategies in each on...

i agree with kfox..i usually play in a few leagues and try different strategies in each one - my head-to-head league had no maximum game rules and i did the waiver thing here and there (certainly not every day) but i had a few positions i would rotate players from week to week and it actually panned out really well in the playoff portion at the end - i was 6th out of 12th going in and i ended up winning. On the other hand, i played some roto leagues where there was a max number per position for the season so my strategy was totally different and although i didn't win, i came in 3rd 2 out of 3 times - either way i had a blast checking my rosters each and every day, swapping bench spots and eyeing the waiver wire for the one guy you thought you never be put on it. to all the active poolies out there - i could care less what your strategy is, i'm just glad you care enough to make it past november and give me a new challenge!

OK.. explain the strategy.. lets see a G for a G, or maybe a LW for a LW.. what's the ...

OK.. explain the strategy.. lets see a G for a G, or maybe a LW for a LW.. what's the strategy, making sure the guys playing the next day.. come on, all you guys say " it's ok because he's playing within the rules".. that's a lame excuse for ABUSE of waivers.

One manager starts the ABUSE and basically forces the other managers to make moves that they wouldn't normally make, then guess what... you claim his dropped players and end up like him, making a bunch of stupid moves, that snowballs and ruins the chemistry of the league.

i absolutely agree that this guy should not be punished for something that is well within ...

i absolutely agree that this guy should not be punished for something that is well within his right. Just because the rest of your league does not employ the same strategy does not mean he is playing unfairly. You should have set limits at the begining of the season if you did not want to allow this option.

tell your league to stop whining.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I've been a part of a Keepers league the past 3 season and the way we have limited ros...

I've been a part of a Keepers league the past 3 season and the way we have limited roster moves is that we just put the league max moves at 3. So in other words, from Monday - Sunday you can use 3 moves, the commish sets all moves back to 0 Sunday evening.

It still gives you good amount of moves, you can pick up players who go on the IR, or a hot player...etc.

Id say put that to a league vote.

For all those managers who use this add/drop strat,, it is well within the rules and yes everyone can do it, ,,but I compare it with this....you have "sexual relations" with your sister,,,you can do it,,no rules against it,,but its just not right....

bad analogy,,,but it works.

Later.

dude, your an abuser of the rules. you havent 'won' anything. why do you think you...

dude, your an abuser of the rules. you havent 'won' anything. why do you think you won? not cause you have the best team...but cause you collected more stats in more games...congradulations moron.

Ultimately, it really only matters what the people in your own league think. I would recom...

Ultimately, it really only matters what the people in your own league think. I would recommend opening up the issue to the other members of your league, which it seems you've already done, using the message board. There's no sensible reason why experienced managers should have to deal with the immaturities of rookie managers who are so desperate to win that they'll try anything, without any respect to sportsmanship, or fair play.

There is a reason that the Commissioner Tools are available to lock other teams, for what yahoo considers unruly behavior.
Bottom line, its not 'your own fault' to be stuck with that, and there's no reason to have to lower the league standard to the worst behavior. As a league, agree on conduct, and if one manager thinks he's above the law, warn them, and if you have to, lock them from abusing the add/drops.

You are an experienced commissioner with 75% regulars, and you all probably agree that it is 'abuse of the option' and lacks 'integrity'. As commissioner it is your responsibility to use your best judgement for the greater good of the league.

Great post man, couldnt agree with you more.

Great post man, couldnt agree with you more.

Good advice Stew. Adjusting the waiver further out does seem like the best option for cutt...

Good advice Stew. Adjusting the waiver further out does seem like the best option for cutting out the crap. You shouldn't be worring about the constant add/dropping if you wanted a head to head competition. That just makes it a rotisserie league.