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I'm a new manager in an established, extremely deep dynasty league with mostly standard scoring. At the moment, the rosters run much deeper than my prospect knowledge. My roster is very young, and not likely to be competitive for a year or two. I've been offered Joe Pavelski and Alex Steen for Davis Desharnais, Steve Downie, Jake Gardiner and Nick Leddy. I'd appreciate your thoughts on whether or not I'd be giving up too much potential down the road to pick up a guy like Pavelski, who would instantly be my best and most established player. Thanks.
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What's your full roster? How many teams in league? H2H, rotisserie or points? Need mor...
What's your full roster? How many teams in league? H2H, rotisserie or points? Need more info
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20 Team H2H league. Scoring categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITs. Here's my full...
20 Team H2H league. Scoring categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITs.
Here's my full roster:
Centers:
David Desharnais
David Legwand
Shawn Matthias
Jonathan Huberdeau
Jiri Tlusty
Marcel Goc
Darren Helm
Nick Spaling
Andrew Desjardins
Drew Shore
Quinton Howden
Jared Knight
Ryan Spooner
Forwards:
Drayson Bowman
Marcus Foligno
Carl Hagelin
Bobby Butler
Steve Downie
Jaromir Jagr
Zack Kassian
Emerson Etem
Frazer McClaren
Defensemen:
TJ Brodie
Raphael Diaz
Andrew Ference
Jake Gardiner
Nick Leddy
Jamie McBain
Tom Gilbert
Chris Phillips
Bryce Salvador
Colby Robak
Goalies:
Craig Anderson
Jhonas Enroth
Michal Neuvirth
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Personally, I wouldn't make this trade considering how young your team is, you aren...
Personally, I wouldn't make this trade considering how young your team is, you aren't going to be super competative, even with the addition of these guys, it will actually set you back.
Looking at your stats here are Pavelski's numbers the last 3 years, as he is the only real value you are getting in this deal, personally I'd stay away from Steen. Yes you'll get yourself a 4 time 20 goal scorer and he'll more than likely do it again but his other stats aren't top of the league by any means, they are about average.
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITs
31, 30, 18, 31, 18, 50
20, 46, 10, 24, 28, 61
25, 26, 1, 26, 13, 58
If it means anything, Dobber has him at 52 out of the top 100 players in regards to a Roto league, just behind fellow teammates Thornton, Boyle, Clowe and Couture which often is helpful when looking at all the categories you have for Head to head. But this also shows where he falls against the guys he plays with.
Desharnais had 60 points last year on a horrible Habs team and 20 PPP, he's bound to match that or be very close next season as he's become a go to guy with the club, with many more years in him. PIMs he had 24 and +/- a 10 so not far off. The only exception will be the hits stat, even then he had 33 which is respectable.
Then he's looking to get Downie from you? Sure, Downie suffers a lot from Games played, but when he does play and when he's in a Head to Head league, he usually helps a lot. He won't usually wow you in the points or +/- area, but his Hits and PIMs make him one of the best in that category when you are able to dress him. And if he does get points that night, it's a bonus. Guys like him are worth a lot in these leagues and I wouldn't move him.
Leddy played his 1st full season last year, has been considered one of the more offensive guys in Hawks system and he's young. His 37 points last year and 67 hits should improve, along with his +/- and PP time. PIM's aren't his thing though as he only had 10.
Jake Gardiner though, he's a question. People expect him to be the next big quarter back on the PP for the laughs. He should improve on his 30 points, and you can expect his 52 hits to increase as that's another thing this big defender is known for, which means he'll more than likely double or triple his 18 PIMs from last year. He will always suffer from a bad +/- though.
So I'd wait and watch these guys develope as you'll likely get production of close match out of two of them.- View Replies
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In a nutshell, do NOT make this trade.
In a nutshell, do NOT make this trade.
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