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10 team, H-H Dynasty (5th season)
Standard Yahoo rosters/scoring
I've finished 4th, 6th, 2nd, and 8th last season.... I've made some horrible trades and add/drops. I've also been killed by injuries the past few years. Last year I went in as the favorite. Injuries got me and a couple of bad early season trades did me in. What can I do to this roster to ensure I make the playoffs and get back on track?
I have the #3 waiver to start the season. All FAs and rookies go on waivers. The waiver order is based on the final standings.
Who should I plan on dropping?
Do I stick with Hibbert and Ilyasova, or do I move on?
Time to get rid of Amir Johnson? He's been right at the 100 rank for the past few years (dropped Jordan instead him last year), but hasn't taken a jump. His coach isn't helping either.
Depth has always been king for me. Should I look to get more top heavy with stars and load up on potential young guys with the back end roster spots?
My roster -
Mike Conley (Mem - PG)
Jrue Holliday (NO - PG)
Kyrie Irving (Cle - PG)
Ty Lawson (Den - PG)
Derrick Rose (Chi - PG)
Tyreke Evans(NO - SG,SF)
Paul George(Ind - SG,SF)
Kawhi Leonard(SA - SG,SF)
Danilo Gallinari (Den - SF)
Rudy Gay (Sac - SF,PF)
Ersan Ilyasova (Mil - SF,PF)
Derrick Favors (Uta - PF,C)
John Henson (Mil - PF,C)
Al Horford (Atl - PF,C)
Amir Johnson (Tor - PF,C)
Paul Milsap (Atl - PF,C)
Roy Hibbert (Ind - C)
Brook Lopez (Bkn - C)
I'm thinking about dropping Johnson and Ilyasova for some top rookies. I might try to do a 2 for 1 to free up roster space then grab a guy like Vonleh or Embid.
Here are some of my mistakes... Dealt Curry for Irving. Lillard for Evans. Teague for Ilyasova. Had an extra 4th round pick in the original draft. Was trying to decide from Wall, Love, Gallinari, or Westbrook. Took Gallinari.... Oops!
So after my reply to Uncle Drew, I just typed out a long reivew of your team and then instead of sending it, it got deleted. So I'll try to sum it up real quick.
1st) Dump Ilyasova and use your waiver claim on a rookie. WIth 3rd priority you should be able to get either Parker, Wiggins or Embiid. Even with Embiid out for a while, possibly all year he is still worth stashing on your bench for a whole year as opposed to using Ersan. Even with PG already out, I'd still rather have Embiid on my bench too than have Ilyasova.
2nd) When you talk about moving on from Hibbert, do you mean by dropping him or trading him? Even with his disappointing season last year, and even in a 10 teamer, you can't just drop him. I also personally wouldn't try to trade him right now. His value is as low as it's been in a long time. Remember it was only last year that some leagues were drafting him very early 3rd round! Now Yahoo has him going 9th round. That's a big drop. I'd rather keep him and hope for a bounce back, than trade him at his lowest point. IMO he WILL have a bounce back year.
Other than that I REALLY like your team. You have SIX players with 1st round potential (Rose, Irving, George, Leonard, Horford, Lopez). Considering all thouse guys are young and cover all 5 postions and all 9 stat categories, that is an awesome base to build around. Adding all that depth at PG is awesome as well. Then having other bigs like Hibbert, Milsap and Favors, with young Henson on the come up, you ahve a GREAT front court. .. Having Evans, Leonard, Gay and Gallo on the wing, you should be able to comfortably stash PG on your bench all year and not immediately be withdrawn from contention.
Amir Johnson is your 2nd most expendable player after Ilyasova. I'd consider dropping him for a hot FA if there is 1 out there.
I'd also consider trading 1 of your many PG's for an elite/young SG. Maybe someone like Bradley Beal who should be great for years to come.
- 2 Replies to CWizzle
WIth Rose, Holiday, Gallo, Lopez and Horford ALL coming back this year, the main thing I would suggest is to NOT panick. Don't make any hasty decisions right now based on how bad your squad did last year. Wait it out and see how your team stacks up now that you have all those guys back... Remember it wasn't too long ago that Rose, Lopez and Horford were ALL putting up 1st round value.
Good luck. Please take a look at my keeper decision question if you get a chance/
I have the 3rd waiver. Wiggins and Parker will be my top priorities. I think I'll put in for Payton next. Will probably cut ties with Henson, Illyasova, and Johnson. I feel confident with some rookies like McDerment, Gordon, and Vonlah.
- 1 Reply to JAH
Just FYI, there is almost no scenario that Vonleh outproduces Henson this year. It has been well documented that they are going to take their time developing him, and he's likely a couple seasons away from fantasy relevance. WIth Henson already showing his potential at the NBA level, I'd stick with him for a while and see how he plays out.
George out for the year. Basically sums up this league for me... 3 years ago I changed my team name to TeamOutForTheYear. With 4 key guys out for the season last year, I kept the name. A few months before the season starts and my #1 player is already out. Figures.
If you traded Curry for Irving, Lillard for Evans and drafted Gallo over Love, Westbrook and Wall, there is no helping you unless you need several more stiff drinks to pull the trigger on another questionable trade...
- 2 Replies to Uncle Drew
Trading Curry for Irving when Curry was being called Glass Ankles and Irving was a rising star was NOT a horrible move. Everything Is easier in hindsight, but at the time 90% of people on this message board would have agreed with this move, trading a super talented, yet super risky injury prone player for a young up and coming stud was a great move at the time.... If the Lillard for Evans move was during Lillard's rookie year it wasn't THAT bad of a move. Not 1 I would have done, even at that time, but nobody really new if Lillard was a flash in the pan of if he could sustain fantasy relevance, at least until nearly the end of his rookie year... Sure, he had potential but you are a liar if you knew for 100% certainty that he was going to be a stud year after year. And at that time Evans was still a big name and 1 of the most versatile SF's after the ELITE guys like Lebron and Durant.
Finally, Gallinari went 6th overall in the 2008 draft just behind Love at 5 and Westbrook at 4. At that point in time they were ALL VERY promising players and it was nearly impossible for someone to figure out which ones would stand out in nba fantasy leagues. In this year's draft, Gordon, Exum and Smart went 4, 5 and 6. 3 years from now 1 or more could be a star, just as well as 1 or more could be a BUST. Looking back from then it might be laughable that people drafted Exum over Smart, if Exum becomes a bust and Smart becomes a legit nba player. But as of right now, they both have roughly the same potential, but most people siding with Exum's upside.
So, Uncle Drew, take a minute to think before bashing someone who was honest enough to admit to his mistakes on here.
I'm not sure why I'm bothering explaining this to you, but it's apparent you don't get it... This league has been around for 4 seasons. None of these moves were done in the past 2 years. And when I made these moves, they were good moves. Of course, in hindsight, we know how well I fared. I didn't have the option 5 years ago when I drafted though... Remember, at one point Troy Murphy was much more valuable than Kevin Love.
You probably still won't get it... and that's ok. I'll move on.
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