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  • Robert Robert Feb 5, 2014 8:54 AM Flag

    Preventing Streaming Pitchers

    What is the most effective way to prevent teams from streaming pitchers? I'm running a H2H points league, and I find that doing that is just a cheap way to gain points which makes the less skilled owner win in a lot of instances

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    • We use a 3 move per week limit and change it to 5 moves in the post season. For two reasons. 1 it stops streaming. We used to have a 50 move limit. But some guys blow their 50 moves half way through the season and disappear. Three moves per week keeps the knuckleheads in control.

    • I'm sure you've taken some of the steps mentioned already. I concur with the transaction limits. There are 2 other potential ways to combat streaming but they're a little out of the box.

      1. People who stream are always utilizing less talented players than those who do not stream. The problem with what I'm about to say is an option is finding a way to adjust the scoring so that pitchers remain about the same value as hitters...or at least not so drastically different that it impacts the need for pitching.

      So, what can be done is implementing negative points that counteract excessive innings. A team that doesn't stream may reach 40-50 innings in an average week while a streaming team may reach as much as 100. If there is a negative point total for outs or IP, it can counteract the streamer. Something like -.10 per out or something. You'd have to play with it and be observant as to how it reflects on the point total. This is a time consuming thing that I know is possible but I've never tried it in any of my leagues. but I have done the 2nd thing....

      2. Make your daily transactions daily - today...or of course you could use weekly lineups where each manager starts the same players all week. The daily - today switch can be effective because it leaves less access time usually to the streaming owner.

      It works like this...streaming owner wants to add pitchers that are playing in the next few days...they go in to make the changes but they can only drop the pitchers who aren't in their starting lineup or players who don't have a real game that day. What that means is that they can only drop the pitchers who are pitching today after 3 AM eastern...this requires them to make many of their streaming moves between 3 AM and game time. A dedicated streamer who seems to be online 24/7 can't be slowed by this but it can hit those with a real life to some extent.

    • I have an 80 move limit. 20 teams in a H2H 10x10 league. Works like a charm.

    • I have a seasonal move limit of 60, max of 5/week. If someone tries to do that, they will be out of moves quite quickly.

    • Weekly and seasonal move limits. The best way would probably be a seasonal limit of around 30-40, that will force streamers to slow down without hurting managers that got a bunch of injuries one week.

    • Several different ways to address this, though one of the ways is moot in your case since you're a points league rather than a categories league.

      1) Limit the number of weekly acquisitions. My league uses 5 per 7-day matchup. We used to use 7, and there would be teams that would use those 7 every week for streaming purposes. Limiting the weekly acquisitions can help, but as Doug said, you can't set it too low in case a non-streamer needs to deal with injuries and whatnot. In addition, part of fantasy baseball IS about spot-starts. You can effectively spot-start without going into fullblown stream mode. You have to find some balance. You can't REALLY prevent streaming, but you CAN minimize it.

      2) Create an innings cap or games started cap. You can create a maximum number of innings or games started allowed per matchup, whereby any stats accumulated in excess of the maximum would be erased at week's end.

      3) Change your categories. This is the moot option I was talking about, but in my leagues, I have pushed to change Ws to QS and to change Ks to K/9. QS isn't perfect, but it eliminates the ability of an owner to pick up a terrible pitcher facing the Astros and scraping out a W. K/9 completely negates the "counting stats" aspect and goes with quality because streaming a low-K guy will actually HURT you in that sense.

 

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