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  • Jimmy Clemins Jimmy Clemins Dec 27, 2012 8:32 PM Flag

    Why Head-To-Head?

    I agree! I could care less if your team scores 200 pts. a week. My goal is to put the best lineup together the week I play your team , so as to get the " W ". If we wind up with the same record , you should have to earn the chance to beat me in the playoffs . I and you have no control over what other teams score. I do control what my team scores by who I decide to play every given week. This decision making is what fantasy is about.

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    • Wait... I think we might actually disagree. You could make the best decisions in the league all year, and consistently outscore 80% of the league, and still wind-up with a losing record and out of the playoffs. You didn't determine the fate of your team, the schedule did.

    • I agree with Bako - what value or worth is there to managing your team to a decent record through the first 13 weeks of the season, if your league standing is simply going to be tossed aside for 2 or 3 more season-ending matchups (i.e., the Yahoo "playoffs")? All you're really doing for the first 13 weeks is to not be one of the few bottom teams in the standings and thereby qualify for the Yahoo playoffs. In my league, 6 of the top 8 teams are in the playoffs. The efforts you put into the first 13 weeks to get an enviable record (e.g., 10-3, 11-2, 9-4) don't do much for you once you (and the other 5 teams) make the playoffs. Your season can end in the very next matchup when you get beat by a team that quite possibly had a losing record in the first 13 weeks. That's what happened in my league - the team with a 6-7 record (and that was in 6th place) ended up winning his last 3 "playoff" matches and won the whole enchilada!

      Bako's right - a better measurement of which team was the best (i.e., most productive) over the entire season is the one that racked up the most points. Is fantasy football intended to mimic the NFL or to see who can assemble and manage the most productive team over an entire 16-game season? I think it's the latter.

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      • Then join a points only league. I play in one of those every year (been doing it for 10 years now) and I think only once has a team not leading the league after week 10 came back to win it. Those types of leagues are typically over long before head to head leagues are and they're won by the team that had the least amount of key injuries. At least with H2H leagues, most everyone stays interested the entire year because they know that any given week, they can win.

      • Appreciate the support. But to be clear, in regards to fantasy football playoffs, I don't have a problem with it being head-to-head, one-on-one, sudden death. Lose and you're out. I just have a problem with the way the playoff teams are determined.

        While I do feel that total points is a better indicator of who the best owners in a league are, it can also be misleading. In one of my leagues this year, I had 2 monster games that pushed my points total for the year way up. But honestly, I wasn't one of the top teams in the league. I had a great roster of players, but did a poor job of manging them. However, one of the other teams who had even more points that I did, WAS one of the top teams. But he too missed the playoffs.

        I wish more people were familiar with the All-Play/Breakdown format. It really is the most accurate way of determining who the best owners are at the end of the regular season.
        In the example I gave above, I was top 4 in points, but my All-Play record was 6th or 7th for the year. Which shows that while I had a couple of good games, I was not one of the top 4 owners in the league.

        The problem with a points league, is that too many owners lose intrest once they feel they are too far behind. But with All-Play, just as with one-on-one records, a team can get hot later in the year and make up a lot of ground.

        An idea I used last year, was an All-Play league where the top 4 teams made the playoffs, and then those 4 teams went All-Play for all 3 weeks of the (fantasy) playoffs. It worked out well. I would have done it again this year, but started a traditional league at work and didn't have the time for another one. Might do it again next year though...

        I guess the point of this whole thread I started has to do with honesty. I know the vast majority of fantasy football players are happy with the way things typically work. My question is whether it's accurate or not.


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