• Commissioner Corner Message Board

  • Lee H Lee H Dec 5, 2012 5:29 AM Flag

    dispute of Fair Play & Sportsmanship rules PLEASE CHIME IN.

    The rules in dispute are.
    -No owner may drop or "dump" players from their team for any reason other than improving their own team and/or its standing within the league.
    -No owner will engage in any action that may be deemed to be collusive (two or more owners agreeing to make moves that benefit one team, but not the other).

    Lets start by saying the trade deadline is over in our leauge.

    Two teams A&B agree to do a drop and pickup trade. Team A drops a player so team B can pick him up. And the following week team B drops a player so team A can pick him up. Even though there was no guarantee that the plan would work, is this considered collusive or cheating? I think it is. Do you?

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    • Based SOLEY on the two rules you posted:
      The dumping doesn't count as its only one player (may be nitpicking, but it is plural in the rule, they could have said "player(s)” or some variation but chose not to do so). In addition, have you scrutinized every single drop all season and made determinations that each and every one improved the team? If a manager dropped an uninjured player but didnt add another back immediately (instead perhaps waiting for his/her favorite blog to make a post before deciding who to add), would you have called them out for violating a rule (I would hope not)?
      For the second rule, the collusion doesn't fit as it clearly states it must be to the benefit of only one team and not both; they both benefit from this dual drop/add.

      Now the deal itself is a little sketchy, as a commish I would be a little put off by it, but how crazy do you want to go with the ban hammer?
      With waivers in place the opportunity for it to not work as they hope exists. If they are #1 and #2 in priority they have to burn those top spots to do this deal, so it has a real cost to them (and a benefit to everyone behind them in priority).
      You obviously are a caring commish and want everything to be 100% fair, you even take the time to read the rules - many do not - and try to apply them as best as possible. In this case though, this is one I think you should let pass.

      • 1 Reply to Matthew
      • player players doesnt really matter how many.
        theres no nitpicking either, when a player that put up 60 points in 3 weeks now 75 in a month hits the wire everyone sees that. And how can it not be collusion when they basically are saying ill help your team this week and you help me next week. 2 shady deals dont make 1 legal one.
        There is no banning or discipline I just want everyone to follow the rules and make it fair.
        By the looks of some of the questions that commishes are asking on this board it kinda seems that noone is really trying to play fair so I shouldnt complain with the leauge I run.

        Thanks for the posts.

    • sounds like fair play to me if unless they were GUARENTEED TO GET THE PLAYER basedon their waiver position i would say stop crying like a #$%$ and put a claim in on the guy so it can't happen or have someone else do it

    • I agree with John. If you had waivers in place, this would not be possible

    • Waivers? Either way they didn't do anything wrong.

 

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