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WOW. doesnt anyone remember when the rangers won 30-0 last year against the orioles yet someone still got the save? so many people are clueless here. a save is when a pitcher enters the game with a one, 2, or 3 run lead and finishes the game. or he can pitch the final three innings regardless of the score and as long as he has a lead from when he enters to when the game finishes, its a save
A save is determined when the tie run is either at bat or on deck. If If papelbon had bases loaded thats 3 runs, the man at bat, thats 5 and the man on deck is 6. If he came in and only allowed 1 or 2 hits it wouldnt be a save. Damn some of you kids a douche bagss
you can get a save all sorts of ways. if you pitch the final 3 innings no matter what the lead, you get the save. if you come into the game with a 3 run lead, you only need to get the final out. also, if you are in a game with runners on base that can possibley make it a 3 run game or closer, and you get only the final out, you get a save. That is what Papelbon did. He entered the game with the bases loaded. If those runs would have scored it would have been a two run lead, which would qualify him for the save. Basically, they treat runners on base as runs already scored. it's kind of complicated to start, but once you learn it it's easy.
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that's pretty close. But on that last point, if the runner on deck represents the potential tying run, then it could be a save situation. Obviously if the potential tying run is either already on base or is batting then that works too. But the guy on deck is factored into the equation also.
I hate when people respond on these boards and they don't have a clue what they're talking about. Paps got the save in the 5-0 game because the bases were loaded by dumb-ass Hanson again so the tying runner was on deck. Not to mention Paps only needed to get one out because Hanson got the first two in the ninth. So, basically Paps got a one out save on a 5-0 game, wierd huh? But it's a save none-the-less. Then a couple days later he pitches 1.1 innings in a 6-1 game and gets the save, that one's not as dramatic but still funny.
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Right, because it was more than 1 inning, even thought he league was greater than 3 runs.
It isnt just as simple as coming into the ninth inning preventing the other team from catching back up last minute.
Papelbon came into the game in the 8th with a 2-0 lead and finished the game, therefore he got the save. BJ Ryan got the save because the tying run was on deck when he came into the game, which makes it a save situation.
Thanks for the help, even with the rule I'll admit that saves still amaze me. I seen B.J. Ryan today have 2 men on base and one at the plate with a 4 run lead. He didnt get the save and to me it contradicted the rules stated my mlb.
Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
- (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
- (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
- (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.
answered by own question,
well, if papelbon got a save in a 5-0 win than chances are he came in with the bases loaded or at least one runner on and kept the lead intact. thats the only way he could have gotten a save in a game decided by more than 3 runs.
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