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I give Lance Lynn, Everth Cabrera, Ryan Howard, and Alex Gordon. I get Nelson Cruz, Alexi Ramirez, and Yordano Ventura. I'm not sure if this is a fair offer or if I need to give more so what do you think? 12 Team Keeper league H2H Cats.
To help make a counter if you don't like it my OF is: Justin Upton, Carlos Gomez, Charlie Blackmon, Coco Crisp, Emilio Bonifacio, Alex Gordon, Jason heyward, B.J. Upton, Curtis Granderson, Michael Bourn, and Dexter Fowler
My SP: Yu Darvish, Stephen Strasburg, Lance Lynn, A.J. burnett, James Shields, Arron Harang, Alfredo Simon, Ervin Santana, Tim Lincecum,
I had to stay away from this a bit to let the dust settle because you were so right about how you felt like you weren't giving enough... obviously all agree with you, myself included... you aren't giving enough at all.
Rule #1 to getting a legit deal done, don't insult the guy you're trying to trade with by making a bogus offer.
Rule #2 offer something that addresses his team needs as well as your own
Rule #3 try not to undervalue his players while overvaluing your own
Rule #4 don't make your top offer your first offer, but don't forget Rule #1
You say below somewhere that he needs Outfielders and Pitching
You want Ventura, Alexei, and Cruz
so you are asking him to deal players from his weakness rather than his strength... that means you have to make it sweet!!!
How bout you offer something like... Shields/Everth/Howard/Gordon
If you need to counter, you can then throw him another of your 10 remaining OFs instead of another Pitcher.
I say Shields for you because you're asking for Ventura... how many Royals SPs do you really want?
Shields will sign with a new team next year as a top free agent, and there's no telling whether or not he goes to a more favorable situation.... what if his best offer is $140million for 6 years from the Rockies? Ughh!!!
In a keeper league you should be ashamed of yourself for even conjuring up this idea. Yordano is almost ace material as a rookie and far more valuable than Lynn will ever be. Cruz vs Howard is a lopsided no brainer for Cruz. Ramirez vs Everth goes to Ramirez.
You are trading a plethora of garbage. The only who has any value is Howard. While I personally think Gordo may bounce back, hes on waivers in a lot of leagues so his value is low. I'd give up Justin Upton that guy always starts hot then becomes a bum after all star weekend if not before. So J Upton and Howard and Everth for Cruz Alexia and Ventura but not sure the guy will take it.
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