you 4 are some of the most dedicated and knowledgeable people I know on this board. There is an ultimate 12 team H2H league being formed for next year. Harry ( you have seen his posts numerous times on this board ) is Commish of this league. If you guys could contact me ( spelling my identification backwards ) moctodoohay ngis ta namnivhad I would be more than happy to forward you onto Harry. Thanks again and hope to hear from you.