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  • Justin Justin Dec 27, 2010 8:44 AM Flag

    Howard or Cano

    Dont get me wrong, first base is deep and has some of the best offensive players in the game. I am saying 2nd base is deep as well for its offensive range. It will never match what an average 1st baseman can do. I guess its just me, but i never worried about taking the best at a certain position. Like the arguement with earlier this year about taking Joe Mauer so early. Yes he is a great hitting catcher but compared to everyone else is offensive numbers is in the middle of the pack.

    I am not knocking Cano, i had him on a few of my teams and Cano did have a great yet, but like i said before he set or matched career highes in 3 out of 5 of the typical H2H categories. I think he will be a productive hitter in the future but i don't expect him to constantly set career highs every season. And i wouldnt say it was an off year for Jeter or Tex. the only category that was down from what they typically do was their batting average. And yes ARod did miss a month. But that is nothing new, he hasnt played a full season since 2007.

    I just see Howard hitting 40plus home runs, driving in 130, and 100 plus runs scored in 2011,2012,2013 and to me that is why i would keep him. That's all i am going to write on this subject, i am not trying to change anyone's mind, just give a different perspective on the issue.

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    • Thank you Justin. I think you summed up what I was trying to say much better than I did.

      • 1 Reply to hammer
      • I get by now that the two of you are not going to change your mind, despite the majority of the other guys agreeing with me. It’s cool, to each his own. But I do have a problem with Justin's rationalizations. Most of which you have said is extremely inaccurate.

        Mauer wasn't coveted solely because he was a catcher. People were high on him because he won the batting title with a .365 avg! He finished in the top 5 in OBP, SLG, and OPS. In deeper leagues these categories matter. He also blasted 28 home runs, and yes it was at the thinnest position. Those are the reasons he was so high, just look at the preseason ranks this year --- he has dropped dramatically because his production went down despite the fact he is still the best at his position.

        You brought up the Phillies line-up struggles last season to defend Howard's numbers and then dismissed my response when I said the Yankees had similar struggles around Cano. You claimed that for Jeter and Teixeira the, "only category that was down from what they typically do was their batting averages”. WHAT! How can you say that? Jeter and Teix both were dramatically under their norms in AVG, OBP, SLG, and stolen bases for Jeter, and HR and RBI for Teix. All of which directly attributes to either them getting on base, advancing bases, protecting Cano who hits behind him, and generally giving Cano opportunities to drive in runs. That fact that Arod missed a month cannot be cast aside because he has missed time in seasons before. He still missed a month this past season, yet Cano still put up MVP caliber numbers.
        Finally you said that, “he [Cano] set or matched career highs in 3 out of 5 of the typical H2H categories”. That statement is accurate actually, but then again last year was his age 27 season….. Isn’t that was a player entering his prime year is supposed to do? I mean you’re making it sound like he is Russell Branyan! The kid has gotten consistently better and why would you not expect him to at least repeat his numbers over the next 3-5 seasons? Perhaps even surpassing some categories this year or next is an entirely reasonable expectation.

        The fact that Cano is a better keeper than Howard should be easily seen. It makes me question either your knowledge of the game or whether you are the homers you accused me of being earlier in this thread….


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