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  • Howard or Cano

    pokerkid23 by pokerkid23 . Dec 22, 2010 11:28 AM . Permalink

    who is the better keeper?

    • Re: Howard or Cano

      John by John . Dec 27, 2010 6:21 AM . Permalink

      I'm pretty sure you’re not saying 2nd base is deeper than 1st, but I wanna be sure. S...

      I'm pretty sure you’re not saying 2nd base is deeper than 1st, but I wanna be sure. So are you? You named some good options at 2nd. But again I’d take Cano and Morneau over Howard and Johnson. I don’t have to talk about what Cano CAN DO, I can talk about what he did do. Cano batted .319, drove in 109, scored 103 runs, and hit 29 homers. Cano also missed Arod for a month, had Teixeira and Jeter produce career low numbers in front of him and he still raked. Cano had a better year than Howard THIS YEAR, period. Cano does play at a shallower position. If you could argue not taking Kevin Youkilis until the 10th spot at his position than you have the deepest position in baseball.

      The question was, who is the better keeper? Now are you really gonna sit there and say Howard is the better keeper? Really?
      Cano is "projected" to be a great player and that is why he is ranked in both ESPN and MLB.com's pre season top 10 overall. So, if you’re gonna say, "everyone talks about what Cano can do", that’s fine. That’s what fantasy baseball IS, i mean come on. The goal is to find breakouts players before they break out. In this case Cano already has!

      Also Peter Gammons may have picked the Indians to be a team to watch in 2010 but he was also the only one of about 30 writers to pick Japan to win the first WBC. I think he knows what he is talking about even if he gets some wrong. It might be a little early to give up on the 23 year old Justin Upton pal.

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      • Re: Howard or Cano

        Justin by Justin . Dec 27, 2010 8:44 AM . Permalink

        Dont get me wrong, first base is deep and has some of the best offensive players in the ga...

        Dont get me wrong, first base is deep and has some of the best offensive players in the game. I am saying 2nd base is deep as well for its offensive range. It will never match what an average 1st baseman can do. I guess its just me, but i never worried about taking the best at a certain position. Like the arguement with earlier this year about taking Joe Mauer so early. Yes he is a great hitting catcher but compared to everyone else is offensive numbers is in the middle of the pack.

        I am not knocking Cano, i had him on a few of my teams and Cano did have a great yet, but like i said before he set or matched career highes in 3 out of 5 of the typical H2H categories. I think he will be a productive hitter in the future but i don't expect him to constantly set career highs every season. And i wouldnt say it was an off year for Jeter or Tex. the only category that was down from what they typically do was their batting average. And yes ARod did miss a month. But that is nothing new, he hasnt played a full season since 2007.

        I just see Howard hitting 40plus home runs, driving in 130, and 100 plus runs scored in 2011,2012,2013 and to me that is why i would keep him. That's all i am going to write on this subject, i am not trying to change anyone's mind, just give a different perspective on the issue.

    • Re: Howard or Cano

      Justin by Justin . Dec 22, 2010 11:50 AM . Permalink

      this is a no brainer.. with lack of for sure second basemen and alot of viable options at ...

      this is a no brainer.. with lack of for sure second basemen and alot of viable options at 1b is is for surely cano.... I believe that he honestly has the capability of winning the triple crown before his carrer is over. If the yankees were smart they would hit him 4th and have a rod behind him..

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      • Re: Howard or Cano

        bryan by bryan . Dec 24, 2010 3:49 AM . Permalink

        Okay man, I have to stop you right there. Cano is in no way a triple crown threat. Conside...

        Okay man, I have to stop you right there. Cano is in no way a triple crown threat. Considering he has yet to come close to the league lead in rbi or hrs that is a huge stretch. Cmon man, you are talking triple crown? Cano is 28, in his prime, so yes he could hit 30 hrs a year and his rbi total should go up. I think he has the ability to win a batting title and he is a possibility to lead the league in rbi. The power is not there though. Cano is not a 40 hr guy and that is what it takes to be a contender for the hr crown. In the AL, you are looking at guys like Longo, A-Gone,Cabrera and Hamilton as solid contenders for the hr title. I also think that guys like Lind, Tex, Morales, Cruz, Bautista, Dunn and a few others all have more power than Cano. Honestly, Cano is great but talking triple crown is retarded for anyone other than Cabrera or Pujols is pretty ridiculous. Temper your enthusiasm here. Also remember, the rest of the Yankee lineup is past it's prime.

    • Re: Howard or Cano

      Muscles by Muscles . Dec 22, 2010 11:32 AM . Permalink

      Cano by a mile

      Cano by a mile

    • Re: Howard or Cano

      Justin by Justin . Dec 22, 2010 12:11 PM . Permalink

      2nd base is not as thin as people think it is: Cano, Uggla, Pedoria, Utley, Phillips, Figg...

      2nd base is not as thin as people think it is: Cano, Uggla, Pedoria, Utley, Phillips, Figgins, Weeks, Hill, Johnson, Prado, Kinsler, Walker,and Roberts. Give me Prado and Howard and ill be happy

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      • Re: Howard or Cano

        hammer by hammer . Dec 22, 2010 2:50 PM . Permalink

        This is true. Going into last season, this was the average line of the top 15 2B. .288/83...

        This is true. Going into last season, this was the average line of the top 15 2B. .288/83/15/63/13. Only Utley exceeded the average in all 5 cats. I haven't updated the numbers yet but I'm sure Utley still exels in all 5 cats. However Cano, Kinsler and Uggla have closed the gap. Also, Pedroia, Phillips and Roberts exceeded the average in 3 cats. Then also you have Hill, Zobrist, K. Johnson. That's 10 above average 2B.

        By the way, while Howard exceeds the average 1B line in only 3 cats, he leads the MLB in HR and RBI averaging 42 and 123

    • Re: Howard or Cano

      Wraith by Wraith . Dec 27, 2010 10:22 PM . Permalink

      2base is a very weak positon so I think this gives Cano the upper hand but it really depen...

      2base is a very weak positon so I think this gives Cano the upper hand but it really depends on whom else you are keeping weather or not i would let Howards bat go

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