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  • K-Rod K-Rod May 2, 2008 11:00 AM Flag

    Is this a no brainer trade?

    I get: Ian Kinsler/Carlos Beltran I give: Hideki Matsui/JJ Putz/Yenel Escabar................H2H public league

    My team:

    C Joe Mauer
    (Min - C) CUtilBN Det 8:10 pm -/- - - - - -
    1B Mark Teixeira
    (Atl - 1B) 1BUtilBN Cin 7:35 pm -/- - - - - -
    2B B.J. Upton
    (TB - 2B,OF) 2BOFUtilBN @Bos 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    3B Álex Rodríguez
    (NYY - 3B) DL 3BUtilBNDL Sea 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    SS Miguel Tejada
    (Hou - SS) SSUtilBN Mil 8:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    OF Hideki Matsui
    (NYY - OF) OFUtilBN Sea 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    OF Michael Bourn
    (Hou - OF) OFUtilBN Mil 8:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    OF Josh Hamilton
    (Tex - OF) OFUtilBN @Oak 10:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    Util Alex Gordon
    (KC - 1B,3B) 1B3BUtilBN @Cle 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
    BN Yunel Escobar
    (Atl - 2B,3B,SS) 2B3BSSUtilBN Cin 7:35 pm -/- - - - - -

    SP Daisuke Matsuzaka
    (Bos - SP) SPPBN TB 7:05 pm - - - - - -
    SP Yovani Gallardo
    (Mil - SP) SPPBN @Hou 8:05 pm - - - - - -
    RP Jonathan Papelbon
    (Bos - RP) RPPBN TB 7:05 pm - - - - - -
    RP Brian Fuentes
    (Col - RP) RPPBN LAD 9:05 pm - - - - - -
    P Kerry Wood
    (ChC - RP) RPPBN @StL 8:15 pm - - - - - -
    P George Sherrill
    (Bal - RP) RPPBN @LAA 10:05 pm - - - - - -
    P J.J. Putz
    (Sea - RP) RPPBN @NYY 7:05 pm - - - - - -
    BN Jonathan Sánchez
    (SF - SP,RP) SPRPPBN @Phi 7:05 pm - - - - - -
    BN Justin Verlander
    (Det - SP) SPPBN @Min 8:10 pm - - - - - -
    BN Johnny Cueto
    (Cin - SP) SPPBN @Atl 7:35 pm - - - - - -
    BN Rafael Soriano
    (Atl - RP) DL RPPBNDL Cin 7:35 pm - - - - - -
    DL Rich Harden

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    • should I accpet this trade or should I accept another propasl from another manager where I get Beckett for Putz/Fuentes

    • Do IT.....You obviously don't need saves so putz does not account for that much...bj upton got hurt last night not sure if hes going to be out for any extended period of time but kinsler and escobar kind of a push but beltran for matsui i would absolutely want beltran over the course of the season so i would TAKE IT

    • His team:

      C Paul Bako
      (Cin - C) @Atl 7:35 pm -/- - - - - -
      1B Derrek Lee
      (ChC - 1B) @StL 8:15 pm -/- - - - - -
      2B Ian Kinsler
      (Tex - 2B) @Oak 10:05 pm -/- - - - - -
      3B Adrián Béltre
      (Sea - 3B) @NYY 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
      SS Bobby Crosby
      (Oak - SS) Tex 10:05 pm -/- - - - - -
      OF Magglio Ordóñez
      (Det - OF) @Min 8:10 pm -/- - - - - -
      OF Kosuke Fukudome
      (ChC - OF) @StL 8:15 pm -/- - - - - -
      OF Carlos Quentin
      (CWS - OF) @Tor 7:07 pm -/- - - - - -
      Util Albert Pujols
      (StL - 1B) ChC 8:15 pm -/- - - - - -
      BN Xavier Nady
      (Pit - OF) @Was 7:35 pm -/- - - - - -
      BN Billy Butler
      (KC - 1B,OF) @Cle 7:05 pm -/- - - - - -
      BN Joe Crede
      (CWS - 3B) @Tor 7:07 pm -/- - - - - -
      BN Carlos Beltrán
      (NYM - OF) @Ari 9:40 pm -/- - - - - -
      BN Torii Hunter
      (LAA - OF) Bal 10:05 pm -/- - - - - -

      SP Javier Vázquez
      (CWS - SP) @Tor 7:07 pm - - - - - -
      SP Dana Eveland
      (Oak - SP) Tex 10:05 pm - - - - - -
      RP Takashi Saito
      (LAD - RP) @Col 9:05 pm - - - - - -
      RP Joakim Soria
      (KC - RP) @Cle 7:05 pm - - - - - -
      P C.J. Wilson
      (Tex - RP) @Oak 10:05 pm - - - - - -
      P Ervin Santana
      (LAA - SP) Bal 10:05 pm - - - - - -
      P Fausto Carmona
      (Cle - SP) KC 7:05 pm

      • 1 Reply to K-Rod
      • As you can see, it's a great deal for him. He's swapping benched OF who likely won't see any time anyways. He's giving Kinsler for an almost equal (at least in my mind) in Escabar. He's basically giving up nothing, and getting Putz in return.

        It's your call. It depends on how your league is run, how well he's doing in your league, and how he's matching up with everyone statistically. If you're confident Beltran will be a great addition, then go for it, but be aware you might be giving him the saves category in a lot of his match-ups. Maybe pursue other trades that wouldn't be so one-sided?

    • Yes, it is a no brainer given your team! You don't need the saves and Beltran will come around and you are trading for him when his value is about as low as it could be which is a good thing! I would do the trade for sure!

    • i dont do that trade..

    • Do it.
      You have enough closers to not miss Putz. Beltran and Kinsler both have potential to steel a TON of bases. They will both hit 20-30 homeruns, I say pull the trigger

    • that's a tough call. Because you do have a ton of closers, it won't hurt you too much, and you definitely do need some upgrades at OF.

      I'd do it, but be aware of how the other guy's team will look like after the trade. I lost a league last year because of a trade similar to this one. The guy in your position was benefiting slightly from the trade, so he figured "why not?". But the guy he was trading with managed to steal some players (in your situation, Putz), because the other didn't "need" them, and he went on to win the league. Putz will most likely not have that great of an influence on his team to make or break the season, but it's something to keep in mind.

    • So should I accept? I have plenty of closers and I need to upgrade my OF with beltran and maybe move Upton to the OF with Kinsler aboard.

    • I wouldn't do it.

    • i have both kinsler and beltran ..dont seem to be helping me get anywhere...but do what you think...

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