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Ok, so this is a dynasty league. And we are all friends. One manager called a few hours before our rookie/FA draft and said he didn't want to draft, and that he would rather just trade off all of his picks. He said "Make me an offer for my first two picks." My buddy offered him Cruz, he declined. So my buddy said he wasn't interested in a trade. I texted the manager making the offer and asked him what he needed. He said TE. I said I have Witten that I would be willing to trade (have Gronk too). He said "I will give you my first two picks for Witten." I accepted. I drafted B.Cooks and J.Matthews with those picks and a couple of people were p@$$%d.
Was it a bad trade for him? Oh yeah. But is it really worth causing a big discussion about? They want me to give him Matthews and keep Cooks, which is obviously still a great deal for me. But, I made a legit trade. It wasn't collusion. I was just in the right place at the right time. For reference, this manager has only one full year experience, but he had 3 teams, was very active, and won a championship in one of our leagues. He has also never shown any other signs on making bad deals.
Also note....the two people complaining each have 5 years fantasy experience, both had interest in J.Matthews on draft day, and they made an off season trade of Lacy for Djax STRAIGHT UP, and nobody complained about how bad of a trade it was. We have only vetoed ONE trade in 5 years, and that was because it was REALLY bad.
I told them if I did anything, it would be giving him Maclin to make it closer to fair. But I honestly don't think I owe him anything. We all make stupid trades. It happens.
What would you do?
I would ask them to reverse the Lacy trade before you even consider adjusting the trade that you made. The only bad part about your trade is the timing. No trade should be pushed through within a couple of hours unless the entire league is there, looks it over and has no complaints. That Lacy trade is much worse.
- 1 Reply to Andrew, Skyler
It was an offline draft. We weren't all together for it. We started early in the day and did it over FB. People just took their time and posted their picks. Like I said, we are all close friends. Trades go through upon acceptance and very rarely does anyone even comment about them. The Lacy trade was only talked about briefly because of the ignorance of giving him up for Djax, then it was dropped. I agree, the Lacy trade was WAY worse to me. If both sides know what they are doing, and are both happy, let it go. Thanks for the input.
- 1 Reply to Mike
Man...they are PI$%^D I tell you. Well just 2 of them. One is a BITTER rival who HATES to see me win, the other has a man crush on J.Mathews lol. I am having a little fun with it now. It was unfair, but not enough to warrant a veto.
If the guy isn't playing favoritism towards you(which he either is or he's an idiot) then there is nothing wrong. Veto is for collusion,thats it. I'd feel very strongly that the possibility was there that collusion was happening if he wouldn't take Cruz but would Witten because you have to be involved in collusion or about as moronic as you can get to do something like that.
Btw, you say trade off all his picks..how many picks is there. If it's a dynasty league, you all should only be looking at 2-3 rounds to begin with max.
The trade in itself is perfectly fine, nobody knows definitely AT ALL what Cooks or Mathews will do, it's just speculation whether you ripped him off or not. They could both be bums.
The issue here is it looks like collusion again because nobody in there right mind says oh I won't trade this for Cruz but I'll deal it for Witten.
For Dynasty, that's awful. I'd cry foul too. There's a reason other people are in the league and should have a voice. Some may take it too far, but this trade is def BS for a dynasty league. Witten doesn't hold a ton of value in most formats as it is.
The only thing I would complain about is that it happened only a few hours before your draft, not giving the other managers enough time to adjust. And the other managers did not have a chance to approve/veto the trade. The trade itself is fair. You received two picks. The other manager upgraded his TE and did not have to bother attending the draft (real life, go fig).
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