Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:24 pm EDT
It's our last entry of the fantasy baseball season, a chance to say thanks and congratulations; a chance to swap war stories and swigs of Yoo-Hoo. I felt our regulars deserved a present on the way out and I couldn't get any Brad Evans memorabilia to raffle off, so here's the next-best thing: preliminary 2009 rankings.
Full disclosure, these are more for fun than anything; I'll wash my hands of these quickly as the hot-stove news comes down and we'll start from scratch in February. But it's always interesting to look ahead and speculate, and I invite you to come along for the ride. Your intelligent and respectful disagreement is always welcome.
Thanks to everyone who had a hand in Closing Time 2008 - the writers, the editors, the readers, the commenters, the Washington Nationals. It's been a blast.
Starting Pitchers
Comments: New landing spots matter more for pitchers, in my opinion, than hitters. There could be significant movement for some of these free agents, depending on where they sign . . . The Yanks say Chamberlain will be a full-time starter in 2009, at least this week that's the story . . . Ervin Santana's emergence was one of the more under-reported stories of 2008 . . . I bet you can get Wainwright a lot later than where I've slotted him. The KC guys should be a good value, too, they always are.
Relief Pitchers
Comments: If there's any position where it's almost pointless to rank the guys now, it's right here. You know how closer turnover goes . . . It doesn't really matter where I rank K-Rod, I know someone will want him more than I do in all of my leagues . . . Every so often you here whispers about Soria joining the rotation, but it looks like he's staying put for now . . . I'm curious to see how Joe Maddon plays things if Percival can't come back next year. Grant Balfour has the profile of a dominant closer, but Wheeler has the proven vet card that managers seem to like . . . Oakland might have the best bullpen in the league next year. Devine's numbers are almost too good to be true . . . Kevin Gregg almost certainly won't be back with the Marlins next year, so Lindstrom has the job to lose entering spring training.
First Base/DH
Comments: Cabrera's stats mostly came in garbage time, but wow, what a second half . . . Imagine the season Gonzalez will have when he finally escapes from San Diego . . . Kotchman leaves me cold, always has, probably always will . . . Delgado was gold for four months, and I don't know what we do with that.
Second Base
Comments: Ramirez's profile has "second year slump" written all over it, but I'll listen to the pro side from you, below . . . I think I'm over my Weeks fascination, finally . . . Ellis can be a sneaky multi-cat guy if he's healthy and in the right lineup . . . Murphy was exclusively an outfielder for the Mets this year, but it wouldn't surprise me if they give him a shot at the second-base gig.
Shortstop
Comments: Drew grew up in a hurry in the second half . . . You want to rank Jeter higher be my guest . . . The Tigers already announced they're not picking up Renteria's option. He's about to hit the cliff.
Third Base
Comments: Give Zimmerman a full year of health and we'll see a tasty line go up . . . Chipper is great for the 125 games you can expect from him, but he's not a six-month play . . I'd like to see more contact from Stewart, but he's firmly in their 2009 plans.
Outfield
Comments: Maybe it's just me, but I don't see as many exciting studs here as we're accustomed to, and that's even with Braun sliding to the outfield . . . I probably won't get a good price on those power-speed Nats, but you will. Big profit potential . . . I never know where to rank Dunn, let's just put that out there . . . Damon keeps beating the clock nicely and filling the line A to Z . . . The Braves did the right thing demoting Francouer, but he came back too quickly. Did the player really heed the message and learn the lesson?
Catcher
Comments: The Indians have an interesting position with two hitting catchers; a trade makes sense, but I'm not sure what the defensive expectations are for Martinez . . . It's never a question about Doumit's bat, it's the durability . . . Even in two-catcher leagues I'm done with Pudge for good. It was a heck of a ride . . . The Yankees have to regret that monster extension they gave to Posada a year ago; if he's not healthy enough to catch, you're not really getting a plus player . . . Check your position eligibility rules on Sandoval; he played more games at first and third than he did at catcher, but in some formats we can slide him behind the plate in 2009. It wil be interesting to see how the Giants use him.
It's been fun, amigos. Here's your exit music. Hope we helped you grab a pennant.
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1. Ricky Nolasco
2. Jon Lester
3. Aubrey Huff
4. Andre Ethier
5. Any random Nationals OF
6. Jayson Werth
7. Denard Span
8. Ty Wigginton
9. Brad Ziegler
10. Mike Pelfrey
Nate McLouth? Drafted, peeps. Drafted.
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Peavy drove me nuts this season.
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Billingsley a top-10. Agreed.
Cliff Lee has *never* pitched this well. I'm not buying it (or him).
Chris Young is a steal at #30.
Not much love for 20-game winner Mussina? Me neither.
Arroyo at #62? I'd take him 20 picks earlier. No that's Sheets. I'd take him 19 picks earlier
I agree with the other posts about Baker. I'd pick him over Ubaldo Jimenez without hesitation.
Didn't you learn from Pujols' pre-season "injury"? Never doubt Pujols, he's gotta be #1.
Check out Carlos Pena's pre/post-AS splits. I think he'll be a bargain in 09 drafts.
I agree with you on Alexi Ramirez - he peaked in June, then his numbers went down every month.
Despite this year's .339 OBP, I'll take Michael Young before Tulowitzki every day of the week.
If Atkins is dealt, SELL, SELL!!! Home/road splits are ugly.
Geez, I'd love to have Figgins' 30-50 SBs from a 3B, but that *1* HR is painful from a corner.
Carlos Guillen has "60-day DL" written all over him.
Sizemore for president. I'm writing him in on every ballot I'm turning in.
If Manny plays a full year in LA, will his number look like 08 or like those of a batter who plays in a pitcher's park?
Ellsbury - take out Mar (when he didn't play) and Jul (when he didn't steal) and he averaged 10 SB a month. Now multiple by 6...
Can you imagine 600+ ABs from Ethier?
Burrell actually was *worse* at home. What happens if he swaps clubhouses?
Ibanez at #53?!?
When will the Angels realize that Napoli can HIT? Seriously, 227 ABs just isn't enough. Get him 400+ ABs and we're looking at a 35HR catcher!
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I am interested to see where Teixeira and Sabathia are ranked after the Yankees sign them.
The above comment about Chris Davis is right on. He should be #13.
I'd have to move Furcal up. Tulo was hurt and/or awful most of the year, while Jeter and Young are all reputation and no production.
The dearth at 3B is worrysome. I'm betting Wright and Longoria will go a little earlier than projections would dictate, because the depth just isn't there (will still Cabrera be 3B eligible, and where's Josh Fields?).
BTW, in the aforementioned keeper league, which is quite competitive, I picked up both McLouth and Quentin as FAs, while Lester and Wigginton were drafted.
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Carlos Quentin
Carlos Delgado
Shin-Soo Choo
Felipe Lopez
Mike Aviles
I got Quentin in about the 4th week, Delgado shortly after the break and Choo, Lopez and Aviles in the playoffs. Quentin obviously lost some luster there at the end, but the others were hands down my playoff MVPs. It's hard to give it to just one guy, but Choo was absolutely gold down the stretch. Not sure how he fits in to an overall rank for next year, but his performance when it mattered was one of the best in the league. He was the 7th-ranked player over the last month. Lopez, coincidentally, was Yahoo's No.1 over the final week of the season (not to mention eligible at just about every position imaginable--gotta love that).
My playoff performance had almost nothing to do with the draft...and everything to do with scanning waivers for the "bat a-la-mode." Among my draft studs, the only ones who righted the ship and performed down the stretch were Rollins and Santana (J). Berkman, Soto and Ibanez all fell pretty flat, while Rios, Damon and Pena performed about average. Waivers won me a title this year.
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My best pickups in deeper leagues were Cliff Lee, Alexei, Liriano and Ricky Nolasco. Nolasco was huge for me, down the stretch especially... I just wish I hadn't tried to sell high on Lee, which clearly didn't work.
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I'm drafting Adam Wainwright as my ace next year. If he lasts a full year, he will be a top 10 SP, no question
The only guys I love more than Nats OF next year will be Florida SPs
I feel like you have Volquez too low, even if he is more the pitcher that we saw in the 2nd half, I believe that he should be able to cut down on the walks some, he will be a top 5 guy sooner or later
I'm with you on Rickie Weeks, which probably means that next year will be the year I expected to see the past 3
I had no idea that Stephen Drew had that good of a year
You have Raul Ibanez too low, I'd move him up 15-20 spots. All he does is produce
Joey Votto is the next Justin Morneau
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I think you mean "bat du jour." "A la mode" means "with ice cream." "Du jour" means "of the day."
As to Wainwright, Scott please be quiet. I'm going after him whenever possible next season, so I'd appreciate some discretion when touting SPs. ;)
BTW, for any "I'm a fantasy baseball, not a fantasy football" fans out there, please note that this comment section has 16 posts in 4 hours. Yesterday's football blog, with nothing but minor injury news, had nearly 50 posts in the first hour it was up. Please don't blame Yahoo for a lack of baseball content: they know where their bread is buttered.
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Last Closing Time of the year... I'd say that the S.F. Giants deserve special thanks for sending their franchise arm to the hill for seven meaningless innings on the last day of the season just so I could edge out Pianowski for 2nd place in the Y! Commenters' League. That was super nice of them.
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Thanks for all the help this year guys, finally brought home one I've been trying for for a few years now. It's been a good year thanks to some great tips from CT. Anyone else out there in the JL leagues, see you all in football/basketball!
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*I think the KC bullpen, if it remains intact could be really good again.
*Derek Lee the superstar, where are you?
*no love for Pablo Sandoval?
*Do you think Chris Dickerson starts next year?
*if healthy, Dukes could be higher, but...
*I definitely could see Ramirez falling apart, but I might take a chance on him late.
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I'll consider Nelson Cruz, peeps.
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