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Bob Arum is one lucky man. Late in life, the 77-year-old has been handed what could be the greatest fighter he's ever promoted. Manny Pacquiao is an action fighter who appears to be able to fight in three different weight classes and has an entire nation of 90 million people behind him.

After each Pacman conquest, Arum beams and is growing with confidence. When asked about Pacquiao meeting Floyd Mayweather Jr. down the road, Arum called out the former pound-for-pound king:

"(Juan Manuel) Marquez shouldn't be fighting Mayweather, he should be fighting (Humberto) Soto or (Edwin) Valero," said Arum. "And Mayweather, if he wants a piece of this little Filipino, just be my guest."

Mayweather announced on Saturday morning that he was coming back to fight Marquez on July 18. Pacman trainer Freddie Roach responded to this by telling the collected media during the postfight press conference he thinks Mayweather is afraid of his guy (3:15 mark):

"Mayweather could fight Pacquaio, he just had to wait one day. I think he's scared of Manny Pacquiao," said Roach. "We not going to wait around. I'd like to keep Manny busy. I'd like to get a fight in November or December."

Roach said if Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley could come down a few pounds, those fights could be made against Pacquiao.    

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  1. MONGONI
    1. Posted by MONGONI Mon May 04, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    As much as i like mr pac. i really don't think it will be a cakewalk for him against floyd.floyd is just as fast and a good defensive fighter as well. i see it going in floyd's favor in late round if they hook this fight up.
  2. SouthCal21
    2. Posted by SouthCal21 Mon May 04, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    let the promoting begin!!!....its going to be a money issue.....always is....dont think either one is going to settle on a 50/50 split...so id be surprised if this fight is made.....hopefully it is though
  3. Jeffrey L
    3. Posted by Jeffrey L Mon May 04, 2009 3:36 pm EDT

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    Floyd is arguably the most overrated fighter of his generation. Has consistently avoided all the tough matchups throughout his career. And in the fights he does take, he dances away from the action, grabs and wraps, and then throws flurries of pattycake punches at the end of rounds to accumulate "points".
    Despite his unblemished record, Floyd is a garbage fighter. Owns no great victories. Has only a lackluster decision over De LaHoya, a surprisingly competitive 10 round win over Hatton, and his win against Gatti nearly 5 years ago. When compared to great welterweights of the past, like Leonard/Hearns/Duran, Mayweather is a joke.
    I agree with Roach in that Floyd will duck Pacquiao to avoid an ugly defeat. He will either make unacceptable money demands or make the catch weight an issue and then try to blame Pacquiao for ducking him. Mayweather is an insufferable buffoon. He will win a weak decision against Marquez and brag that it is further proof of his greatness. Nothing could be further from the truth. He is a fraud.
  4. tlarry
    4. Posted by tlarry Mon May 04, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Cotto, Mosley and Mayweather on fight night would come into the ring outweighing Pacquiao probably 158lbs to Manny's 142/144. 14-16 lbs...That's a big deal. Hatton came in weighing 12 lbs heavier than Manny on fight night, and if it weren't for Hatton standing in front of him with his chin exposed, that weight advantage would have been a bigger deal later in the fight.... I still would have seen Pacquiao winning the fight, by a later round KO as Hatton tires and gets cut to shreds. But Cotto, Mosley and Mayweather will come in fight night in the mid to high 150's, with a lot of strength, athleticism, and the ability to move in and out, side to side, and move their heads...unlike Hatton....unlike Dela Hoya. That makes for an entirely different fight, and that's where Manny's team needs to be very careful. I still like Pacquioa beating Mayweather, maybe a late round KO, cause I don't think Mayweather takes a punch as well as Cotto or Mosley. Mayweather won't be an easy fight. Mayweather will come to fight like an undefeated champion; he won't be there to run and hide; he's undefeated for a reason, and he still will be by the time a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight happens. Mayweather matches speed with Pacquiao well, and is the most athletic of them all. Mayweather just doesn't like getting hit, and once he gets caught and hurt, you'll see a different Mayweather.
    As it relates to Cotto & Mosley, those two have had some wars. They have been hit by much larger guys than Pacquiao, and will handle Pacquiao's power. I see Mosley having a better chance to beat Pacquiao than Cotto, based on his ability to move and change directions. Cotto is a warrior who moves straight in and out, killing the body with the head to follow, which will make for an easier target to hit than Mosley or Mayweather; I didn't say an easy target, just easier. I think Pacquioa does a better job with Cotto's attack than Mosley did and beats Cotto by Unanimous Decision. I think what determines the outcome of Mosley-Pacquiao, is how much in the tank Mosley still has at this point in his career. Based on Mosley's train wreck of Margarito, I'd say Mosley is still has plenty. And based on Mosley still having a tank full, I think it's a Mosley decision if that fight happens within the next 12-14 mos.. Any longer than that, the scale starts to tip in favor of Pacquiao, in my opinion. (when you think to whom Mosley lost too...Winky & Vernon Forrest in their prime...those are some BIG guys, and a decision loss to Cotto....styles make fights). All in all, we have some outstanding fights ahead to look forward to.
  5. sam spade
    5. Posted by sam spade Mon May 04, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    this is wild. Manny Pacquiao has been trying to get out of a bad contract with Bob Arum. Isn't it the same garbage? Arum and Roach get paid and Pacquiao takes punched to the face and is unhappy with his cut of the purse. They are both boxing garbage. As for Mayweather fighting Pacquiao. Please review all of Roach's comments. he says that Pacquiao is a different fighter than the one that fought Erik Morales. he says that because if you look up and find those fights on the net you will see a miniAli/Frazier trilogy where the winner is the one who could take the most punishment. Extremely bloody. Roach knows like I do that the fighter that fought Erik Morales has no chance against PBF. For clarity, please print those comments so that the reader can find out who Erik Morales is, what kind of fighter he was(he's retired). when you see excepts of those fights he had with Pacquiao and put that together with what you know about PBF, the truth will be easy to discern. Pacquiao is the same fighter, don't be fooled by Roach's comments. He's pumping himself up as a trainer.
    the JMM fight is a tune up. But it can be reasonably said that Pacquiao hasn't fought in the same time that PBF has been retired. His fights with De La Hoya and Hatton were like out takes from Dancing with the Stars. Pacquiao hasn't been in a real fight since Morales 14 months ago. He's full of himself now and believes the hype.
    Pacquiao will get the worst beating of his life. Way beyond the fights with Morales.
    Please research Morales/Pacquaio cause they're misleading you big time.
  6. Johnny
    6. Posted by Johnny Mon May 04, 2009 3:58 pm EDT

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    ###5-Great points!!! You kno the fight GAME"-Thanks
  7. SouthCal21
    7. Posted by SouthCal21 Mon May 04, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    wow jeffrey....i see you let your hate of Mayweather cloud your judgement of his actual boxing skills....that doesnt surprise me as that seems to be the case from most PBF haters....and about your Leonard/Hearns/Duran comment, pretty sure that could be said for 99 percent of the welterweights since then....tlarry and sam spade make better arguments that dont seem to clouded in bias...
  8. SEPOY GELI
    8. Posted by SEPOY GELI Mon May 04, 2009 4:02 pm EDT

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    What we have all witnessed on saturday was the apt punctuation to MANNY'S greatness..before the hatton fight there were still speculations about pacmans capability to match floyd jr..but as I see it (and Im always right) there is going to be no chance of floyd mayweather being victorious over pacquiao..the resounding victory last saturday erased all doubts..but being the pragmatic that I am, I think that the pacman-money tiff would go the distance (since floyd jr. will do hurdles inside the ring).... by manny's standards of course (PACQUIAO in 7)
  9. Jeffrey L
    9. Posted by Jeffrey L Mon May 04, 2009 4:10 pm EDT

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    Really, SouthCal? You think sam spade's ramblings hold more water? Telling us to research who Erik Morales is? Huh? Yeah, like I just beamed down to Earth from outer space in 2007 or something. Then he goes on to say simply, Manny will receive the worst beating of his life. As if Mayweather will actually agree to the matchup, let alone actually throw with Manny. What a joke.
    I hate Maywaether for good reason. Many of which I laid out above in earlier post. And so long as you choose to simply throw a blanket over my arguments, rather than refuting them with any arguments of your own, I'll ignore your opinion. Much like Mayweather ignores matchups with fighters who can hurt him.
  10. sam spade
    10. Posted by sam spade Mon May 04, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Have an informed opinion. Just do it. So you can give an objective opinion. Put it into your search engine right now. You can get video and everything. Morales/Pacquiao three fights review them all and then tell us what you think. You can quickly wikipedia Erik Morales. It's not hard to find out that the Pacquiao thing is the sport fan being prisoner of the moment. De La Hoya and Mayweather choose Pacquiao because they know they can beat him. I'll bet that they were in the crowd when he fought Morales those three times. So like a Rocky flick they have carefully puffed up his resume so that he can take this big fall. They will make sick money. The key was the white boy. You see how he was treated by De La Hoya and the Mayweathers. The only people who got paid on Saturday was Arum/Roach and De la Hoya/Mayweather. If you are a prisoner of the moment so be it. But the truth is just a few clicks away and you don't have to leave your screen.
  11. SEPOY GELI
    11. Posted by SEPOY GELI Mon May 04, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    To all the stat geeks in there..looking at numbers are good as they say "numbers dont lie" but it doesnt follow when it comes to manny.You are all just bunch of PAC-haters that uses stats and history in the process to look intelligent are you saying that hatton also did not recieve hard punches from bigger opponents?..geez.. If (and being modest) I say IF pacquiao beats floyd jr. Would it be enough? or would you find another loophole and say manny should fight ALI to or ROBINSON to be considred one of the greatest
  12. Jeffrey L
    12. Posted by Jeffrey L Mon May 04, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Whatever, Sam. Go chick the Zapruder film and look for Kennedy's second assassin in the Grassy Knoll. Why would I need to "go look up Morales" on Wikipedia or YouTube when I already know damn well who he is. He is/was better than anyone Pretty Boy ever had the balls to get in the ring with. You can go look that up if you wish.
    You say "Mayweather and De LaHoya chose Pacquiao because they knew they could beat him"? So they "puffed him up with the Morales trilogy"? Yeah, and Bush blew up the World Trade Center? You are living in a bizarro world of unreality man. We really don't have anything to talk about here.
  13. SEPOY GELI
    13. Posted by SEPOY GELI Mon May 04, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    Boxing as we all might agree is bloodsport a glorified one for some..and I agree they are screwing manny of his earnings well what can you expect from a poor ol boy from GENSAN that did not have formal education and that used to carry tuna on his back to earn a living..he's been robbed so manny times from those that are from and within his camp..they know that pacquiao is making helluva lot of money, but as far as fighting is concerned pacquiao even agreed to have a modest purse for the hatton fight to push through..with the eventual mayweather-pacquiao fight manny should assert his right as the games top dog not less than 60 percent cut..and as for floyd hes known for a being a gym rat and for his conditioning, but let's still see how much rust can JMM take off him
  14. sam spade
    14. Posted by sam spade Mon May 04, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    You are Ricky Hatton. You signed a two fight deal with Golden Boy Productions(owned in part by PBF) You didn't read the fine print that said that the promoter would choose your trainer for the second fight. enter Mayweather senior. he's pissed. Hatton's pissed. You realize that your just an opponent in this thing. Your promoter is against you. Your trainer, too. None of them think you can win. In these two fights, even though, you've been ripped off; you've made some nice change. You mindset is what? F this let me get my money and get out of here. 2 round and 12 hours later, you're in England, none the worst for wear and you're telling the story above.
    Hatton was trained by family members in his fight against PBF. Same with Pacquiao in his fight against De La Hoya. If you don't smell something wrong, then you haven't been following the fight game long. The quick fight with Pacquiao could just be a residue of the garbage that Hatton endured before the fight.
  15. cerebrumlvfine
    15. Posted by cerebrumlvfine Mon May 04, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    To all mayweather fans, how many rounds it took may weather to defeat oscar dela hoya
    and hatton? 22 rounds.
    how long it took pacquiao to defeat both dela hoya and hatton? 10 rounds, not even.
    c'mon. now!
    stick to the stats.
    pacquiao don't choose his opponents, mayweather did. why fm didn't fight mosley, cotto or margarito. he's damn scared. why he can't wait for a day to fight pacquiao, he's damn scared.
    he's a dog who just barks
  16. jeezee10
    16. Posted by jeezee10 Mon May 04, 2009 5:19 pm EDT

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    After all those won fights, many still doubt the boxing prowess of the Big Little Filipino! I always had the feeling that many people and celebrities came to watch to see this Asian upstart get his due. And then he proved them wrong. Time and again! And now, he is again belittled until he will win a fight against this or that boxer, bigger and taller than him.
    Roach won't bite, Manny won't bite. If they want him, it will be on Manny's terms. Shed pounds the way Dela Hoya did if you want to fight him. After all, he is your ticket to the big bucks.
  17. SouthCal21
    17. Posted by SouthCal21 Mon May 04, 2009 6:08 pm EDT

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    Please Jeff ive made plenty of arguments with Mayweather haters on numerous posts on this blog....You make no legitimate argument for me to come back on especially comparing him to hearns, leonard etc.....you just simply reiterate my point that ive made numerous times before that some fans hate Floyd the person soooo much that you simply refuse to acknowledge his skills in the ring as boxer...you would rather take away from his career rather than give him credit for what hes done....and thats okay, its your place to do it....just know that it only shows your ignorance....patty cake yada yada fought no one blah blah blah.....go ahead and jump on that bandwagon, believe me, its big enough.....but i guess all of the experts who had him #1 P4P before he retired were all just idiots....that said, ive already agreed with your stance on the fight not happening cause money will be an issue (for manny as well as floyd) and the weight prob wont get agreed upon....about sam spades post: he doesnt tell you to simply look up who morales is he also tells you to watch those fights because thats the last time Pac actually had a competitive fight....i think thats a great argument and apparently im not the only one (see post #6)...i think its valid to say that Pac hasnt been challenged in roughly the last 2 years the same way he would be against Floyd...and simply put, you could say that almost all the big names from welterweight up to middleweight AVOID FIGHTS cause none of them want to fight Paul Williams....
  18. CALL me GOD
    18. Posted by CALL me GOD Mon May 04, 2009 6:56 pm EDT

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    Its always the same old b.s. mayweather ducked this fighter or that fighter.its a no win situation for the pretty boy because no matter how great he is or who he beats, people will try to diminish his accomplishments.it will be the same thing after he stops pacman.who just like the rest of you will find out stratagies change when you face him.nobody is faster or adapts like him, his defense is the slickest ever in boxing.frustration will set in for pacman when he realizes that punches come from more angles than straight on as the opponents he`s faced have styles that are similar to his.mayweather is the master of using your aggressiveness against you as he is ultra hard to hit but he constantly hits you whenever he feels.he`s not a brawler but he is a winner and pacman has never faced someone who`s skills are neons ahead of his.as fast as you think pacman is mayweather will make him look slow and force the free throwing pacman to think about throwing for fear he gets hit and cant hit back successfully.even so after his victory the naysayers still wont acknowledge the best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be!
  19. ANTHONY B
    19. Posted by ANTHONY B Mon May 04, 2009 7:49 pm EDT

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    Pacman IS certainly a different fighter than he was against Erik. BTW I saw all 3 Pac/Morales fights. Pac has matured into a complete boxer, he doesn't exchange openly nearly as much, he has amazing power in both hands now, and he has developed superior footwork. I don't want to discuss Pac/May just yet because Marquez is 1st to bat, however I'm not entirely sold on Mayweathers so-called "superiority". Where was his "superior" skills against Oscar and especially Baldomir (could you imagine how much damage Manny would inflicted on Carlos over 12 rounds?). OK, he looked good against Hatton, but not nearly as impressive as he once looked in the days of Castillo & Corrales. Unlike PBF, Manny has sent his last 3 opponents to hospital while sustaining absolutely no damage to himself (much like he did against Morales in fight 2/3). That is quite the accomplishment and should never be dismissed simply because of who he was fighting
  20. ANTHONY B
    20. Posted by ANTHONY B Mon May 04, 2009 7:56 pm EDT

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    Scout Master, you need to lay of the hard stuff for a while ... because stating that Mayweather is "the best there is the best there was and the best there ever will be!" is a hallucination void of reality.
  21. CALL me GOD
    21. Posted by CALL me GOD Mon May 04, 2009 7:58 pm EDT

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    Julyfirehorse.....you are a numbscull with your economy of motion and efficiency theory.as i stated not just prettyboys speed but his defense and all around skills are something pacman has never faced before.every fighter he`s fought has been a slug with not a lot of motion that just wants to trade with him.if efficiency is anything that scores then you`re talking mayweather the master of hit and not get hit the true science.maybe you should thoroughly read my post to get the jest of it.
  22. Jeffrey L
    22. Posted by Jeffrey L Mon May 04, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    Hey SouthCal, I haven't read this blog so have no way of knowing what you've said to defend Pretty Boy here in the past.
    If you think Pacquiao "hasn't been tested in 2 years", how long has it been since Floyd fought somebody who wasn't a bum? You give Floyd credit for beating De LaHoya and Hatton (in unimpressive fashion, I might add) and take it away from Manny at the same time. So which is it? Because if Pacquiao hasn't had a "tough" fight in two years then it has been at least twice that long for Pretty Boy.
    And I honestly dare you to name a great or even good fighter Floyd has vanquished. People keep saying this "he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" crap, but I can't for the life of me find a fight on his resume that makes me think "all-time great". He's damned because he doesn't fight the tough fights.
    Is it entirely his fault, his resume is padded with tomato cans? No, not entirely, but his ducking of dangerous fighters like Cotto and Margarito is downright cowardly.
    And for these Floyd-heads who say Pacquiao has never faced somebody like Floyd, I'd say it goes both ways, even moreso the other way. Floyd has never fought someone who could hurt him, let alone someone who can match his speed with ease. Pacquiao is a different animal. But we'll never find out because Floyd will make sure this matchup never happens. It's far too dangerous for his liking.
  23. LA Doesn t Suck
    23. Posted by LA Doesn't Suck Mon May 04, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    PBF does it for the money. That's his motivation. He's only been a sure thing because he chooses to fight fighters he knows he can beat. But I think JMM will give him a run for his money.
    Pacquiao isn't afraid of anyone. He just doing his job and lets his fists do all the talking in the ring. He'll get the job done on PBF too if the money is there to lure PBF in. Then Pacquiao will retire him as well.
    I'm a firm believer in Pacman and his evolution. But in the game of boxing, you never know. You only THINK you know.
  24. Jeffrey L
    24. Posted by Jeffrey L Mon May 04, 2009 8:46 pm EDT

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    I think Scout Master IS Pretty Boy Floyd. Or maybe he is Floyd Sr. There is no other explanation for his complete disconnect with reality.
  25. SouthCal21
    25. Posted by SouthCal21 Mon May 04, 2009 9:07 pm EDT

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    Look Jeff, where did I give credit to Money and not to Pacman?...I apologize if you think i gave the impression that im taking anything away from Manny....I was simply stating that Manny walked over his last few opponents and that he wouldnt be able to do that with Floyd....and vis/versa....He was simply a much better and prepared fighter than Ricky and Oscar were..i never once said that Manny is a bum or Money is the greatest ever just that people try to take things away from fighters without merrit ..Dont get me wrong here, I am a Manny fan....a big one...im not trying to take anything away from him...He makes us Filipinos proud....the only thing that gets to me is when people try to take anything away from great fighters...period...Like i said, there are always fighters that get accused of dodging or cherry picking opponents...Hell, everyone under the sun thought Oscar was picking Manny as an easy fight because he was much smaller...doesnt always work out....I guess my underlying argument is that Money is definitely not a "joke" as you put it and Manny is a great fighter and thought of by most, if not all experts as the P4P king (the same experts that had Money there for nearly 2 years)....maybe your last post rings true but would it not be easier to just say that both of them are so superior to their last few opponents that the only way to figure out who is better is to square them up in the ring??
    ......and when i referenced the two other posts i was saying they were better arguments than yours and were worth giving a few moments to mull over....not that i agreed with them.....they were better put than saying floyd is "garbage fighter", which has ignorance written all over it, or a "fraud".....

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