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    Rangers, Devils remind us why NHL coaches’ challenges are a necessity

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    There's an inherent conflict between my New Jersey Devils fandom and my dogma/world view/philosophical bull[crap] about the National Hockey League.

    I'm an advocate for personality and flair; the Devils won three Cups as the antithesis of such things. I loathe the shootout with the fury of a thousand burning suns, yet it's in the skills competition that the Devils earn more hollow points than a teacher's pet narc'ing on a cheating classmate.

    Last night, another clash of concerns: The Devils defeat, agitate and anger the New York Rangers, 1-0, thanks in part to a goal waved-off with 3.5 seconds remaining due to goaltender interference; yet my admitted bemusement with the victory is undercut by what is now a complete injustice in the National Hockey League.

    Not the play itself, necessarily. But that there's no appeals process to ensure that the call was correct.

    First, the play in question, as Marian Gaborik crashed the net, Anton Volchenkov leaned on him and Gaborik made contact with Martin Brodeur:

    What a mess. It sparked all sorts of debate last night, partisan or otherwise. That goes for players, too, via NHL.com:

    "They have rules -- you hit the goalie, you get a penalty. I saw him push Marty. I maybe pushed him a little, but I didn't push so hard." — Anton Volchenkov

    "I don't understand. It's frustrating. If I would have run him, I wouldn't say a word. But the guy pushes me into him. I tried to open my leg for a pass, I tried to stop. But he just pushed me into Brodeur." —Marian Gaborik

    Two players, two different views; and when you've watched the replay 20 times, you can see why. It's not an obvious push by Volchenkov. It's not an obvious goalie run by Gaborik. You can see little variations each time — a shove by the Devil's arm, Gaborik going in high on Brodeur — yet never come to a firm conclusion.

    Here's what the rules say on goalie interference:

    "The overriding rationale of this rule is that a goalkeeper should have the ability to move freely within his goal crease without being hindered by the actions of an attacking player. If an attacking player enters the goal crease and, by his actions, impairs the goalkeeper's ability to defend his goal, and a goal is scored, the goal will be disallowed.

    "If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by a defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the goalkeeper, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact."

    The essential question: Did Gaborik attempt to stop outside of Brodeur's crease, and was he then shoved into the crease by Volchenkov's body? And was that attempt clear enough to where Gaborik did not intentionally enter Brodeur's crease?

    I'd say "no." The last angle shows Volchenkov riding Gaborik, but also shows Gaborik attempting to stop but failing to do so independent of Volchenkov's actions. He didn't mean to run Brodeur; but he impaired him from making a save by his own actions. It's a call that has to be made, and will be made every time.

    I see it one way, you see it another … the point is that the referees or the War Room in Toronto should have seen it again.

    It's further evidence that we need coaches' challenges in the NHL.

    Dale Tallon pushed for this two years ago, offering these situations for a once-a-game coach's challenge:

    Applies only to goal-related plays

    Challenge must be issued within prescribed time limit

    Team must have timeout left to issue challenge

    Unsuccessful challenge results in loss of timeout

    Successful challenge results in no loss of timeout

    One challenge per team per game

    The Rangers still had their timeout; under this proposal, John Tortorella could have thrown the flag or a bundle of sticks or fired a flare gun and gotten a video review of this play.

    Would it have overturned the call? It doesn't matter. What matters is that there's a play in the National Hockey League that decides whether or not a goal should be allowed that currently isn't reviewable.

    Think about how many other incidents that can take a goal off the board get a look from the War Room: high sticks, kicked pucks, pucks directed in off gloves, pucks entering the net before or after it comes off its moorings.

    Yet goalie interference, a game-changing play, isn't admissible for review?

    The reason, one imagines, is two-fold: First, because there could be multiple reviews in a game, slowing it down to a snail's pace; and second, because of conundrums like the one above. In the first case, that's why you limit challenges to one per game; in the second, you simply defer back to the on-ice official's original call, just like in the NFL, if you can figure out the specifics in the allotted time.

    There would have still been outrage either way after the War Room or the officials confirmed the call last night at MSG. But at least it would have been reviewed and debated, rather than having a split-second decision determine a victor.

     
    • Charles  •  Catskill, New York  •  3 months ago
      Would anyone want the 7th game of the Stanley Cups Finals to be decided like that?
      • J 3 months ago
        If it had, the sabres would have won the 99 cup instead of the cheating dallas stars.
      • WHRR21 3 months ago
        I worry for the same thing.....
      • JB 3 months ago
        The sad thing Charles is that playoff officiating is different than regular season officiating. You know the zebras can give u a loss or 2 or 3 or 4 during the season. You've seen teams just miss the playoffs. NHL officiating is still inconsistent. Most glaring recent example was the Winter Classic that the Rangers played against Flyers AND zebras!!
    • Timothy  •  Winnipeg, Canada  •  3 months ago
      I'm in favor of any NHL rule change that involves giving Torts access to chuckable items.
      • Noochski 3 months ago
        haha. agreed.
      • car 3 months ago
        maria, know what you are talking about before you post. the "avery rule" was not to protect goalies. it was to make it so a player couldn't face the goalie for a screen.
      • tim 3 months ago
        Avery was on the Rangers. There isn't a penalty for a player falling and hurting the goalie's ankle. I guess someone could argue that Callahan wasn't called for interference on that play. I believe that Brodeur was out of the crease which would negate a goalie interfernce call against Callahan. Also, Callahan ended up on the side of the goal rather than in the goal.
    • Howard Wong  •  Toronto, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Would the Coach's Challenge be handy also in ruling that the LA Kings clock freeze goal to not have counted?
      • Diehardnuck 3 months ago
        They did review that goal but nobody noticed the clock.
      • Walt 3 months ago
        The replay the War Room looked at didn't go back far enough. They just looked to see that the time wasn't at 0:00.00 when the puck crossed the line. And before the stupid conspiracy comes out that the Kings production crew sabotaged the replay, the War Room, as a result of the Pittsburgh incident, gets all views from all video feeds at that arena (read: home and away production).
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        Yes, it would have been handy... if anybody had noticed that the clock stopped DURING the game. Not afterwards. But hey, keep crying about it.
    • The Unsilent Majority  •  3 months ago
      Think of the excitement a flare gun would trigger...
    • Manhattan Matt  •  Hicksville, New York  •  3 months ago
      Gaborik and Goalie Interference - Kerry Frasier (Former NHL Ref)

      No matter who you are cheering for, this missed call had a major impact on the game and reinforces my call for video review by the referee on contact with the goalkeeper where a goal results. (Notice I said by the referee, not the situation room!) If the referee happens to be on the opposite side to where contact was initiated (as referee Dan O'Rouke was in this case), it is often next to impossible to get an accurate read on the play.

      That is exactly what happened last night in Madison Square Garden in the dying seconds of the game with the Devils leading 1-0. As the Rangers attacked the net, Marian Gaborik attempted a full blown stop with snow flying in front of Martin Brodeur.

      Initially, it might appear that Gaborik just ran out of real estate and crashed into Brodeur, which would result in a goalie interference penalty. From referee O'Rourke's position, a little bit behind the goal line on the near side to Gaborik, that is exactly how it would appear to the ref in real time.

      As I saw the reverse look of the play, I noticed Gaborik's left skate break from his natural stopping motion and slide marginally to the left, causing an unnatural fall into Brodeur with Anton Volchenkov exerting backdoor pressure on Gaborik from the opposite side.

      Upon closer inspection, we see that Volchenkov places his stick between the legs of Gaborik and the pressure exerted causes the NY Ranger to fall and crash into Brodeur. The clear evidence is seen when the players attempt to untangle themselves in the crease. Vochenkov's stick blade can be found stuck in the plastic blade holder of Gaborik's left skate!

      If anyone didn't think the contact from the back side was significant to put Gaborik into Brodeur, Volchenkov's stick placement should provide the smoking gun!

      What does all this mean? The Rangers certainly lost at least one point last night. Beyond that, it should highlight for you what I have known for years, ever since we had to deal with the ridiculous toe-in-the-crease standard that was rewritten into Rule 69 - Interference on the Goalkeeper. The refs need help with this call.

      While the present standard is much more sensible than dealing with Brett Hull's toe-in-the-crease, it hasn't made it much easier to the referees to enforce. In cases such as last night, it is even more difficult for the referee to determine how contact results.

      Is this type of play something that we want to see eliminate a team from playoff competition or result in the presentation of the Stanley Cup? I think not.

      I know how hard it is to determine these plays in real time. Give the referees the same benefit that you and I have to slow it down and look for the smoking gun.

      Place a monitor at the timekeeper's bench where they already have a communication device and give them a second or third look to determine the legitimate scoring of a goal.

      After last night, John Tortorella just might agree with me.
      • Manhattan Matt 3 months ago
        For those of you who did not want to read all this, basically Kerry Frasier agrees that the Rangers SHOULD HAVE been awarded a goal BUT the Ref was not in the right position to accurately make the call. A gift for the Devils, an argument for video review, Rangers still at the top of the conference TIME TO MOVE ON
      • Chris D 3 months ago
        Great read. I love Fraser's explanations.
      • SimpleManiac 3 months ago
        Where was Mr. Frasier's explanation originally posted?
    • mike k  •  Thunder Bay, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Can the shitty refs, its the same ones screwing up all the time,I wont even watch a game refed by dennis larue.
    • Anon123  •  3 months ago
      This wouldn't even be an issue if the league would stop allowing attacking forwards to use goalies as Air Bags!
    • Mr. Harry Nuckles  •  3 months ago
      Why is Torts being upset news? If the headline read "Tortorella in happy-go-lucky mood", that would be news.
      • Beef Ravioli 3 months ago
        torts needs some meds
      • Beef Ravioli 3 months ago
        so does Al Biase ranger fan Trautwig, Ken Daneyko should kick his rear verbally for being a biased member of the media, shame on him
    • Robot Godzilla  •  Toronto, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Why do you need to wager a timeout? Just make it so that each team has one challenge per game. If a goal needs to be looked at again, whether the team has a timeout remaining should not be relevant.
    • Chris D  •  Lexington, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
      I think that the difference here, Wysh, is that Goaltender Interference is a penalty, whereas those other plays you mentioned (high sticks, kicks, gloves, etc) are merely stoppages of play and a review is necessary to deem if a stoppage of play was necessary prior to the puck entering the goal.

      If Gaborik interfered with Brodeur, then the moment Anisimov touched the puck the play is deemed dead (Remember... Referee's 'intent' on blowing the whistle). In this situation, then the goal never would have happened at all since the play was dead well before before it crosses the goal line.

      And... since penalty calls are not reviewable, and still wouldnt be under the proposed guidelines of the 'Coaches Challenge', the play last night would still be called as it was on the ice.

      All that being said... I feel your pain about having an affinity for a certain team but then having a difficult separating the fandom from your views on the game as a whole. I have the same issues relatively often.

      On the one hand, Im a Rangers fan, and think the Rangers got jobbed, especially after the whacky bounce last week (Also against the Devils) that ultimately cost them the game.

      But on the flipside, as the rules are written, that is not a goal and the referees got it right. Not to mention that the Rangers were terrible last night and as I said to my wife after the 1st period: "If the Rangers come away with even 1pt from this game it will be a miracle."... needless to say, their play didnt improve much and they did not deserve to win the game.
    • Timothy  •  Miami, Florida  •  3 months ago
      Charles... you should know that a Stanley Cup was decided just this way... the baffoons of the NHL ignored their own rule (which they had previously been anal in enforcement) by not dissallowing a goal (that clearly should have been negated... made the cover of Sports Illustrated) in the Cup finals in Buffalo. Everyone in the world knows that it was "no goal" except the slime balls running the NHL. A replay rule at that time would have prevented the colossal embarsement that the NHL enjoys to this day... Guess what?... in response to the event, The NHL changed the rule (after the fact) to cover their incompetance. Some day the NHL will catch up with other sports... but not until the idiots in Toronto are relieved of their duties.
    • Crusher  •  Coram, New York  •  3 months ago
      I don't mind the call it was very marginal. But you see this type of play time and time again with no call or no interference called hundreds of times. The referring is so bad, it makes the game very frustrating to watch.

      In this case Torterella has criticized the refs even fined and they were looking for revenge and they got it.
    • .  •  3 months ago
      I don't know about the one challenge per game... Definitely if you're wrong you lose it, but if you're right why should you lose your challenge? You should keep your timeout and your challenge if your right... I mean, if the ref costs you 3 goals on mistakes, why should you only be able to recover 1?
    • Andrew  •  Mt Hamilton, California  •  3 months ago
      We don't need a coach's challenge, we just need every scoring or potential scoring play automatically reviewed. The only reason the NFL has coaches challenges is because they review non-scoring plays as well, with varying degrees of importance. In the NHL, the only plays that reasonably qualify for review are scoring plays, and since there are fairly fiew of them, there is no reason to put the responsibility on the coach, rather it should be an automatic review the same as they do not when there is a question of whether the puck crossed the line.
    • John  •  3 months ago
      What's funny about the rule interpretation is if knock the goalie in the crease it's goalie interference. Yet when I watch games where the goalie comes out of his crease to play the puck and a player bumps him while trying to play puck it's goalie interference but goalie IS NOT in his crease!!! Yet the rule doesn't state that. What's the FREAKIN' rule then?
    • Gabriel Rockman  •  3 months ago
      Take a look at the goal the Bruins had disallowed last night. If you're going to disallow a goal on that tiny amount of contact, then there's no question at all that the Rangers goal should have been disallowed.

      Bruins are my least favorite team, but they got screwed on that call last night. The Rangers weren't victims, it was the right call. It wasn't even a borderline call. It was pretty blatant.
    • Chris 2  •  3 months ago
      I saw it full speed that night and I've watched it a few times in slow-mo. I think if anything Volchenkov was hooking/interfering with Gaborik. He certainly wasn't running Gaborik into Brodeur. Watch the beginning of the play where Vol places his stick in front of Gaborik and pulls back. That's a hooking call ninety nine out of a hundred.
      Vol's left knee buckled Gaborik's right leg and as Gaborik's left skate skidded he slammed into Brodeur. Clearly Gaborik was trying to slow down but not enough to control his motion. Add in that Vol was actually trying to pull him back and it adds further to how hard Gaborik was driving into Brodeur out of control. Just like a boarding call you have to control your body. Gaborik deserved the interference call. Volchenkov deserved a hooking minor if anything. I think it is no goal based upon the first part of the rule. Vol actually was restraining Gaborik and still Gaborik didn't do enough to stop himself.
      I'm a huge Devils fan BTW in case you couldn't tell.
      As was mentioned elsewhere the Rags had about 59min and 56 seconds to score elsewhere in the game. Couldn't get it done. Torts said as much post game.
      Marty stoned them big time.
      Aint Hockey great this time of year. Beats boring BBall 6 ways to Sunday
    • JT  •  3 months ago
      No way, not a good idea. Losing a time-out is no big deal at all in hockey, hardly a way to regulate challenges. Maybe a bench minor if they're wrong.
    • David G  •  Sterling Heights, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      I'm totally onboard with the whole "coach's challenge" idea. It happens all the time to Holmstrom in Detroit, who has at least 5 goals a year waved off based on pure reputation.
    • Geoff D  •  Edmonton, Canada  •  3 months ago
      dont do it. just another opportunity for magurie to inflict his brand of irritation, and bob mackenzie to blather on into the night.

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