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    Is Kings GM Dean Lombardi’s fate tied to the NHL trade deadline?

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    Perhaps it's psychological scarring from the Wayne Gretzky years, or just the philosophy of what large market teams "should" look like, but there's been this notion that the Los Angeles Kings and GM Dean Lombardi require an offensive star on their roster.

    Back in Summer 2009, that player was Marian Hossa, for whom the Kings had acquired negotiating rights but were unable to make a deal. Marian Gaborik was also on the radar, but his contract demands were too high. In Summer 2010, that player was Ilya Kovalchuk, whom they courted hard before he rejected their "best offer" to meet his needs. (His needs apparently being a contract that circumvented the salary cap.)

    Then, in 2011, Lombardi went in another direction: Trading for Mike Richards of the Philadelphia Flyers, a star player already under contract through 2020. And that was that …

    … until it became apparent this season that the Los Angeles Kings still can't put the puck in the net; and still, in the eyes of many, lack a marquee player.

    Is Rick Nash one? Is Jeff Carter? Because the prevailing wisdom is that if Lombardi doesn't land one of them for a playoff push, the clock on his tenure with the Kings is ticking down to zero hour (after freezing for a few moments at 1.8 seconds remaining … damn you, coulombs!).

    Helene Elliott of the LA Times laid it on the line today:

    "Failure to reach the postseason could cost Lombardi his job and there would be no reason to argue he should stay."

    Which means the Kings' pursuit of Rick Nash could be the more important moment of Lombardi's tenure with the team. From Elliott:

    "Ultimately it will be up to Nash. That doesn't bode well for the Kings, who have repeatedly struck out with high-profile free agents. Somehow, Lombardi has to get this right. Or get his resume ready."

    Here's how Elliotte Friedman sees things:

    [Jon] Quick's dominance makes Jonathan Bernier expendable, although there is some debate about Bernier's ceiling. Voynov's emergence leads to Jack Johnson trade rumours, although Lombardi could, in theory, deal either one.

    Lombardi could package Bernier and one of the two defenceman for a scorer. (Jeff Carter is the obvious candidate.) But, if he split up that package -- and moved Johnson in the process -- he could add a second one. When he does step up to the plate, how big a swing will Lombardi take?

    If he takes his swing, Jeff Carter is the easier pitch to knock over the wall.

    Nash has veto power, and the Columbus Blue Jackets are, "listening to offers for captain Rick Nash and openly shopping Jeff Carter," according to the Dispatch. Which is to say they want to move Carter and are willing to move Nash. There's a difference, and that'll manifest in their respective price tags.

    The Mayor gets into the Jeff Carter option a little deeper:

    Carter is Richards' best friend. If anybody can keep Carter on the straight and narrow, it's going to be Richards. Besides, how much motivation would Carter really need to return to his previous form in LA? He can score goals like he did in Philadelphia and possibly return to the Stanley Cup Finals. Or, he can stay in Columbus, where scoring goals gets him what - a last place banner?

    Yet, there's one more reason why Carter makes more sense than Nash. Remember, to get the Blue Jackets' captain, the Kings will most likely have to move Johnson AND Bernier. A deal for Carter wouldn't have to include Johnson.

    Theoretically, this leaves him available to move in a deal to the Flyers for James van Riemsdyk - a 22-year old goal scoring left wing, something the Kings desperately need.

    Is it playoffs or bust for Dean Lombardi? Perhaps. The Kings will have over $14 million in cap space next summer to make another go of this. He's made a number of average to poor decisions, like Dustin Penner at the last trade deadline. Ownership might want another hand on the wheel if this thing goes off the tracks again.

     

    42 comments

    • A Yahoo! User  •  3 months ago
      You know, Kings fans have been having this discussion for a while now, and while i won't go into it all, there are some arguments to be made in favor of Lombardi retaining his job even if the team fails to make the playoffs. To just flat out write him off is a little premature.
    • Dave  •  Irvine, California  •  3 months ago
      "He's made a number of average to poor decisions, like Dustin Penner at the last trade deadline." - Hindsight is 20/20, isn't it? Penner was the crown jewel of last year's trade deadline, and the trade was virtually unanimously heralded as a good one for the Kings. It obviously was a failure, but was adding the best offensive player available at the last deadline really a "poor decision"?
      • Daniel 3 months ago
        Exactly. Very few people (if any) criticized Lombardi immediately after the acquisition of Penner. Only after it was clear Penner was a bust, did Lombardi get criticized. That said, Lombardi needs to do something to shake up this team, I think. His job is on the line, and more importantly, the Kings playoff hopes are on the line.
      • wlfgngpck 3 months ago
        Ducks fans knew it was a bust. I had hoped he had changed, but Penner looked just like the useless lump I remember playing for the Ducks. But really I think that's more Penner's fault than Lombardi's. Lombardi did what he could with what was available. I'd label this more as a "trade that didn't work out;" calling it a poor decision by Lombardi is a bit unfair.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        Not only was the trade considered a good one at the time, Penner started off reasonably well until Kopitar went down. He seems to have given up all hope of remaining a professional hockey player since then.
    • Michael  •  Toronto, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Yup, I agree !!! Dean is a bum and no new players want to come here !! Penner deal is and will continue to be a flop !! And we gave up too much for Richards... a D-man, Wayne Simmonds and the pick would have been enough!! Now, Schenn and Simmonds are having good seasons !!! If he wants to save his job... give up Johnson, Bernier, maybe Thomas Hicky... and 2nd rounders (only) for Nash and Carter.... REMEMBER Dean; Columbus is Broke.... they cannot afford both Nash and Carter !!! Play that card !!!
      Go Kings Go !!!
    • Daniel  •  Winnipeg, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Preposterous. The Kings are underachieving at the moment but they have a solid foundation. There's no need to mess with that. Furthermore, with Penner and Stoll coming off the books this summer they'll have about $14.5M in cap space with 19 guys under contract for next season, all of their pricey assets other than the goaltenders locked up long term, and some solid young talent in the system. $14.5M with 19 guys under contract is plenty of cash to shore up weaknesses and even make a run at that scoring left winger they seem to want so badly. Parise will be UFA, Alex Semin makes a good high risk/high reward second prize and would come cheaper, Huselius is a decent third prize, Steve Sullivan would make a good depth signing (and can put in spot duty in the top 6), plus they have good youngsters in the system who could be ready to make the jump within a year or two. There's no need to panic yet.
      • Yayhoo User 3 months ago
        #$%$
      • Adam 3 months ago
        Agreed. Except in the case of Semin. If not Parise then lets give Toffoli/Kozun/Weal a prolonged run in that spot and see if they can make it their own. If none of the youngsters cut it then look to bring in a JVR or heaven forbid Bobby Ryan for JJ (Voynov looks more than ready to fill his skates) at this time next year
    • Kurt  •  3 months ago
      Lombardi is being backed in to a corner, GMs make mistakes when that happens. Teams that are selling should be loving that...
      Nash by himself is probably not enough to make the Kings a contender considering they will need to subtract significant parts to add just one player. One look at their forward lines and it is clear they need more than one winger to compete with the likes of Detroit, Vancouver, SJ, etc.
      Carter could be part of the solution as he would have instant chemistry with Richards, but that is a ton of contract. Some other names besides JVR that would presumably come a bit cheaper: Hemsky and A.Kostitsyn.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        One winger won't make them a contender, but it would certainly bolster them for a playoff run. Presumably, if the Kings make it to the 2nd round his job is safe. If they lose in the 1st round its uncertain. If they fail to qualify, then he is likely gone. So, if he brings a guy like Nash or Carter in now, play better, make the playoffs... he can deal for an additional part in the offseason.

        It probably sounds ridiculous, but i'd actually like to see him grab Nash AND Carter.
      • Mark 3 months ago
        If the Kings give up JJ and Bernier for Nash and or one of them just for Carter it will not be a huge loss. JJ has not played as well as he did prior to his new contract in the last season. It seems that the Kings resign their Defense-men and they Play like Crap. Look at Doughty this season, he is getting more money and is content on just being paid well and not PLAYING WELL...
      • Mark 3 months ago
        All be it he made some moves the other Night (Doughty) that had me remembering the Doughty that deserved a higher Salary, but still lacking on pucks in the net. He is not the sniper of last year.
    • Richard M  •  Lake Havasu City, Arizona  •  3 months ago
      If they don't come up with two guys who can score goals then i think he's gone! there are plenty of good bright guys out there who can run the Kings and build a Stanley Cup winner !
    • Inkdude  •  3 months ago
      If Carter goes to LA, or any team that isn't taking on his salary just to reach the Cap floor, it's the final proof that there's no such thing as a contract so bad that another GM won't take it on.

      Not that we really needed to be told that again after Gomez went to Montreal.
    • Jonathan Holt  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      If only this quote: "Failure to reach the postseason could cost Lombardi his job and there would be no reason to argue he should stay"

      Said: "Failure to reach the postseason could cost HOWSON his job and there would be no reason to argue he should stay"

      Columbus would be much better off if we (as in the people who run the Jackets and the fans) had this sort of mentality. Instead...for the past 10 years we had the "oh just wait for next year! We have Carter and Wiz now!" mindset.
    • J Pic  •  Toronto, Canada  •  3 months ago
      Im a habs fan, but the kings are my number two team, and frankly I don't like what I've seen from lombardi over the last two years. The guy just seems like a huge jerk and perhaps thats why LA cant land big name free agents. It's Los Angeles, not Winnipeg. There's no reason that Lombardi shouldnt be able to convince free agents to sign there. After the Penner and Richards Blunder, kings ownership should reign him in and take a new direction. His public bickering with edmonton, making himself look like a complete jerk with the way he publically handled the drew doughty negotiation as well as the Kovalchuk sweepstakes, just leads me to believe that this guy has lost it. With the team the kings have, if Rick Nash would block a trade there, there must be a problem and the first place I would look is lombardi. Hiring Sutter was also an extremely questionable move. I will commend lombardi as a great team builder, but it seems like he wont be the guy to take them to the next step.
      • Mark 3 months ago
        Richards wasnt a bad buy, i will agree he has not produced the way he did prior to his upper body injury. And well that is enough said.
    • Pope JTE  •  San Diego, California  •  3 months ago
      Everybody seems to forget how #$%$ poor the Kings were under Dave Taylor prior to Lombardi being the GM. The guy has come in with a plan and he's reached the first set of goals . . . develop the farm team, let the kids grow, and make the playoffs . . . something the Kings had not done for 8 years! Now, Lombardi has the pieces in place, but last I checked . . . Dean-o doesn't lace 'em up and score goals. The players, who have historically put the biscuit in the basket, have all floundered. Brown, Williams, Stoll, Richards, Gagne, Penne rand even Kopitar, for the most past, all have numbers well below their career averages. That can't be placed on Lombardi. He's made moves that were financially responsible for the franchise for years to come, and he got the absolute best players available at said time. Biggest questionable move in Lombardi's tenure has been hiring Sutter, quite frankly, only because team defense hasn't been the teams problem. The team is playing hard, they're out shooting opponents, and allowing single goal games. I think losing Lombardi would be a disaster. He's built a consistent team that has grown each year since taking the job, with this year being an exception. But again, I stress, he's working with the players that have produced in the past. How is their inability to score goals his fault? Face it, Kings Fans, the team is having one of those inexplicable "off years" and changing the GM isn't the solution . . . at this point.
      • Mark 3 months ago
        Agreed, he has created a hell of a Defensive Farm, probably the best in Hockey, but that still doesnt win games it only keeps you in the game.
      • Tyronne 3 months ago
        true..one of the biggest problems with the kings have been depth. they have always relied on their top line to score, in fact the NEED them to produce. ALL other sucessful teams have had multiple lines as a viable threat to score....It's even more frustrating, because their goaltending has been good enough to win MORE games...
      • Mike 3 months ago
        I hear ya, man. But Lombardi is not completely without fault in this also.

        Dan Cloutier might have been one of the worst contracts I've ever seen with the Kings next to JR. He held Terry Murray too long and it seemed like everyone knew Penner was fat and lazy before he came.

        Aside from those obvious mistakes, he's done okay. The players still need to figure out how to put the biscuit in the basket.
    • Big Riles  •  Beaumont, California  •  3 months ago
      In a word, no. AEG is raising ticket prices. Do you really think they want to pay for "two" GMs? How about "three" head coaches? No. No. No. Lombardi stays. Sutter stays. Kompon stays (God, I hated writing that). AEG is losing money hand over fist with the Kings. They are not going to further endebt themselves by firing the currently contracted management and coaching staffs only to hire (and pay) a new set.
    • bozo  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
      king fan here. heck if we miss the play offs this year oh well thats the way it go's.{Blank Happens} but to blame it all on our GM is shameful on us the fan's.its strange the lack of scoring this team has been giving JQ maybe they been in-joying the show to much? well if they can pick up the scoring they be just fine. but Nash would be a nice add Carter could be a ok gamble same odds as the Penner deal of last year.Bernier is a fine young prospect loaded with lots of up-side it would be foolish to send him out for a rent a player guy for just the playoffs $$ same go's for Jack Johnson who is a nice matching bookend so to say with Drew. well the Habs did trade Roggie Vas to the kings back in the 70's too bad Canada has kept ROGgIE out the hall of fame that would be like the great Habs traded
      a hall of fame goal keeper before his time? is billy smith in the hall of fame? or Butch Gorring? hmmm Ray Bourqe hmm Dean we have all faith in you we hanged in there this long we kings fan's are in it for the long haul and if the play offs are lost one season so be it. lets retool over the summer let the coach learn what he was dropped into. and for god's sake's no more starting the season over to pound {pond} where the beer is served warm the other kingdoms have Nat teams of their own. sure not a NHL team lol but they do have Cable tv there don't they? let start the training camp and season right at home no breaks jet lags and playing in front of fan's that frankly Daddy oh no don't give a Dam. words well spoken in Al GA years gone by . news flash for the first time the kings scored more than one goal first!! is this a changed on the rise out of the flames or are them jets over heads flying like the golden jet is on the move I just love the feel of nutron's in the morring.
      GOD save the Kings of 2012?? why? there is going to not be a 2013??
      thats what people say??? lol yea right good luck to you all.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
      i say get carter and nash..

      to la:
      carter
      nash
      sanford

      to jackets:
      bernier
      johnson
      1st
      penner
      loktionov
      1 prospect- hickey

      carter-richards-nash
      brown-kopi-williams
      clifford-stoll-richardson
      king-lewis-fraser

      westgarth, nolan, gagner

      doughty-willie
      scuds-voynov
      grenne-martinez

      quick
    • Killingjoke  •  3 months ago
      After stinking it up in Edmonton for so long, why on earth would Lombardi trade for him and give up what he did. That alone should get him fired.
    • Dan S  •  3 months ago
      Good lord the Kings need to stay away from Jeff Carter. he is not interested in hockey. Next to Alexander Semin, he is one of the biggest cancers in the game. As a Flyers fan, I warn you, stay away, VER FAR away.
    • Joslynn B  •  Pasadena, California  •  3 months ago
      If the Kings take Carter that just proves DL is losing it... Considering his first priority when he took the job was no stupid long term contracts..... Just this year Richards and old #8... As usual Kings trade way the 1st forward in ages that everybody wanted and got an east guy that can't adjust to west for two years
    • Freddie Bear  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 months ago
      The Richards trade has killed the Kings. Moving Schenn and Simmonds was a mistake. Lombardi has made Holmgren look like a genius. That's as easy as moving a 5 ton bolder with you back. Trading for Carter will fix Scott Howsons big mistake but it will amount to a double fleecing of Lombardi. Becoming Flyers west is already shaping up as a disaster.
    • Puck Peeler  •  Los Angeles, California  •  3 months ago
      Lame duck GM is what DL is. Just getting Carter will NOT do it. Why would having another 17 goal scorer help your club? DL needs to make a statment if he wants this club to compete and compete for a cup. Trade Bernier, a D-man, and Brown and get NASH. LA does not make the post season, and DL is FIRED
    • Horc the Dorc  •  3 months ago
      Columbus wouldn't take Penner. Howson was with Edmonton when Penner was stinking out the joint there. The only GMs stupid enough to want him (Lowe & Lombardi) have both regretted it. I hear you can get Horcoff and his $5.5M contract for 3 more years pretty cheap. So far this year he has 11 goals, that's more than twice as many as Penner. Lombardi better hurry on this one as The Hockey News says Horcoff may be bought out by the Oilers.
    • shadow  •  Ottawa, Canada  •  3 months ago
      there is absolutely nothing in this article that wasnt already public knowledge to anyone that knows anything about hockey...complete waste of time reading this...I said 6 months ago when he made that trade with Philly that he would regret it and Lombardi would be looking for work next year.

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