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    Brandon Sutter’s leaping roughing penalty on goalie in OT: Agree or disagree? (VIDEO)

    Giving Steven Stamkos the room to operate on a 4-on-3 power play in overtime usually means you're about to watch Steven Stamkos end the game. The Carolina Hurricanes witnessed that on Saturday night, as the Tampa Bay Lightning defeated the Canes on Stamkos's 47th goal of the season.

    But should the Lightning have had a power play at all? Check out Brandon Sutter at 1:05 of overtime, leaping into Mathieu Garon as Steven Stamkos pushes him from behind.

    Tampa won the game, 4-3.

    The call wasn't goalie interference, nor should it have been considering Garon was practically at the blue line. It was roughing, and it's one of those situations where you'd love to hear from the referee after the game. Clearly, Stamkos is riding Sutter from behind. One assumes he's trying to leap over Garon to avoid a collision. But … he jumped right into a goalie in a prone position.

    Is it possible that Sutter would have been better off just running Garon instead of jumping into him? And do you think this should have been a penalty?

     

    72 comments

    • ZarleyZalapski  •  2 months ago
      the officiating in the NHL is in real poor shape and its starting to show. It seems every week theres a call thats blown that has significant consequences
    • Dima  •  2 months ago
      From the NHL rule book: "Roughing is a punching motion with the hand or fist, with or without the glove on the hand, normally directed at the head or face of an opponent."

      Am I missing something?
    • Kurt  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      The way Stamkos pushed him, this should have been a no call. I do think that by jumping he gave the refs a worse impression of the hit, but it was still a bad call.
      • theone6643 2 months ago
        He hooked him more then anything. How is pulling on a guy preventing him from stopping?
      • Scott M 2 months ago
        You've never played hockey, have you Theone6643? Lace up some skates and try to come to a complete stop when some guys is hooking you from behind. Let alone the fact that he's still pushing on him from behind while trying to keep the hook and prevent a scoring chance.
      • steve. 2 months ago
        He easily could have turned. There was enough space and every hockey player knows it.
    • Jeffrey  •  Ashburn, Virginia  •  2 months ago
      Bad call, very bad. Biggest proof was that Steven Stamkos went to ck on how Sutter was instead of pushing and shoving like would normally happen after a goalie was hit by a member of the other team.
    • Jason  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Francois St. Laurent completely disregarded both NHL Rule 51.1 on Roughing (Roughing is a punching motion with the hand or fist, with or without the glove on the hand, normally directed at the head or face of an opponent) and Rule 69.4 on Goalie Contact Outside the Goal Crease (...However, incidental contact will be permitted when the goalkeeper is in the act of playing the puck outside his goal crease provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such unnecessary contact).

      Three things were very clear
      1) Brandon Sutter did everything possible to avoid contact with Mathieu Garon
      2) Steven Stamkos pushed Sutter into Garon while defending him.
      3) At no point, did Sutter use any kind of punching motion with his hand or fist.

      St. Laurent embarrassed the NHL officiating crew last night (as if Tim Peel didn't do enough in this game and the Hurricanes game at Anaheim).
    • declan g  •  2 months ago
      Shouldn't have been a penalty, incidental contact after Stamkos pushed him
    • Tim  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Quote from the guy some of you think wasn't pushed:

      "I couldn't get out the way," Sutter said. "I just tried to go to the net and obviously the goalie was out pretty far out of his crease and I got pushed in.

      "There's no question I hit the goalie, I ran into him. There's contact there. Like I said, I was clearly pushed into him. Terrible call."

      And the fans already have a fund established to pay Sutter's fine if this idiotic league decides to punish him for that quote.
    • Kevin  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Three penalties on the play: Sutter for goalie interference, Stamkos for holding (he has his left hand wrapped around Sutter's midsection and his right on his back) and Garon for unsportsmanlike conduct. Sutter *grazed* his mask with his thigh on his way over him and Garon acted like he was hit by a steamtrain.

      Or -- more sensibly -- a non-call on a "hockey" play.
    • wuthering  •  2 months ago
      That is some impressive athleticism from Sutter. He bearly hits Garon who is tall on his knees. Take away the controversy and this is a highlight.
    • Sean N  •  2 months ago
      No call is the correct call here. Mistakes are made sometimes..shame that it cost the Canes the game.
    • Squorn  •  New York, New York  •  2 months ago
      Shouldn't have been called. Sutter was very clearly trying to stop as he approached, but was unable due to Stammer's hand pushing him in the back. It's very obvious in the view from behind (0:59 in the video). He actually did manage to minimize contact by jumping. I think if Sutter stayed on his feet, or maybe slips and goes down then it's no call. The jump made it look worse than it really was.
    • MikeC  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      I just watched again, I think that Stamkos thought he had a penalty for either holding or hooking. He looks right at the ref and sees his arm up before he even looks at Garon. NHL referees are quickly becoming almost as big of a joke as the NHL marketing department. These two groups are doing all they can to ruin this sport.
    • Gary  •  Tampa, Florida  •  2 months ago
      Lightning fan. No penalty.
      • steve. 2 months ago
        Non-Lightning fan, but ya it is a penalty. He had more than enough space to turn and change his path, and there was no need to hurdle him, putting more risk of injury to both players.
      • Jan 2 months ago
        he hurdled to avoid Lucicing him
      • Timothy Charles 2 months ago
        @steve- Do you not see he is trying to stop while being shoved from behind. Total #$%$ call that the ref should have to explain his reasoning for.
    • Katy  •  2 months ago
      Sutter's lucky to not be hurt. He got shoved by Stamkos and leaped over Garon in an attempt to avoid hurting him (and barely grazed him). Roughing is supposed to be called for actions that are aggressive but don't count as fighting because gloves are still on. I fail to see how being shoved then leaping over someone in an attempt to avoid mowing him down could be considered roughing.
      • steve. 2 months ago
        Wasn't shoved that hard, and Sutter clearly embellished the fact Stamkos gave a quick shot. The video shows he had 1-2 seconds to make a turn to avoid full contact. Deserved penalty.
      • David 2 months ago
        Sorry, Steve, but you're wrong. The video does not show anything of the sort. It show that he was pushed and had 2 choices. 1. Skate full force into Garon and obliterate him or 2. jump over him to avoid obliterating him. No matter how you look at it, it should not have resulted in a Tampa power play.
      • Katy 2 months ago
        Steve, you made this same comment on the Hurricanes Facebook thread. No matter where you post it, you are still wrong, or you are deliberately trolling to stir up trouble. 1-2 seconds on ice at full speed with someone leaning on you is not enough time to change direction. Simple physics.
    • Derek  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Ref who made the call was in a decent position and should have seen the push and called the push. It really should have been a no call because Biron was outside the crease, but if he was going to call anything on Sutter, it should not have been roughing, it should have been goalie interference and he should have called interference or crosschecking on Stamkos, too. This penalty took away any reasonable chance for the Hurricanes to win the game. Games in any sport should be decided by the players not the referees. This was decided by the referees.
      • Wrex 2 months ago
        Sutter should NOT have been sent to the box, especially if you call a penalty on Stamkos.

        "If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or FOULED [emphasis mine] by a defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the goalkeeper, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact."

        http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26480
    • Snostorm  •  Islip, New York  •  2 months ago
      Very bad call
    • AndrewW  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Bad call, but the Tampa bench probably also saved the game by getting a new stick to Clark about 4 seconds after his broke. Staal broke a stick against the Panthers last weekend and it cost them the game because it took a while to get him a new one. I say bring on all these nightmare plays so we can just get them out of the way for next season.
    • JustinL  •  2 months ago
      Terrible call
    • Mitch Curlee  •  Raleigh, North Carolina  •  2 months ago
      Disagree. No call is correct here.
    • MattD  •  2 months ago
      Had it been a no-call, I don't think there would have been much discussion about it. No call is often the right call.

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