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    Ed Reed unimpressed with Joe Flacco’s performance in playoffs

    Joe Flacco can't hide behind a running game and defense anymore. (Getty Images)

    Before the Baltimore Ravens' 20-13 win over the Houston Texans in the divisional round of the playoffs, Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco let the media have it about the fact that he feels disrespected as a winning quarterback. "I'm sure if we win I'll have nothing to do with why we won, according to you guys," Flacco said last Wednesday.

    As it turned out, the Ravens won, and Flacco didn't have as much to do with it as he'd probably need to make his case that he's an elite quarterback. He was bailed out by his receivers on several throws, and his final stat line — 14 of 27 for 176 yards and two touchdowns — should be seen in that context. According to Football Outsiders' opponent-adjusted metrics, Flacco was the sixth-best quarterback of the entire divisional round — just above Texans rookie quarterback T.J. Yates and some guy named Tim Tebow.

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    More importantly, Flacco left one of the Ravens' most important players with a distinctly unimpressed feeling. Talking to SIRIUS NFL Radio on Monday, mega-safety Ed Reed said that Flacco underperformed against Houston's aggressive defense.

    "They had a lot of guys in the box on him and they were giving [the pass] to him," Reed said. "I think a couple of times he needed to get rid of the ball. It just didn't look like he had a hold on the offense. I don't know how much of [that was] the play calling … but it just didn't look like he had a hold on the offense, you know, of times past … It was just kind of like they [were] telling him [what] to do -- throw the ball or get it here, you know, get it to certain guys."

    Perhaps this was based on a concern that to beat the New England Patriots, who the Ravens will meet in Sunday's AFC championship game, Flacco will most likely have to play a near-perfect game — and he hasn't had too many of those this season.

    Ed Reed pressures all quarterbacks -- including his own. (Getty Images)

    "He can't play like [he did against the Texans]," Reed continued. "One specific play that sticks out to me was when Ray Rice came out and got pushed out of the backfield and [Flacco] still threw him the ball and he had Torrey Smith on the outside. I can see that sitting on the sideline or sitting in the stands. You don't know what someone else is seeing."

    Flacco came out of the 2008 draft with as much pure arm talent as any quarterback in recent memory, but the results have been questionable at best. Despite his reputation as a "winner," his 44-20 regular-season "record" must be mitigated by the fact that he's buttressed by an astounding defense and the efforts of Ray Rice. Flacco is, in fact, the NFL's best argument against quarterback wins as a statistic.

    Only twice in the 2011 season did he throw more than two touchdown passes in a game, and each of those were in the bag by Week 3. Of special concern should be the four games in which he failed to throw for a score at all, despite attempting more than 30 passes in three of those games, and more than 50 against the Arizona Cardinals. He's known as a guy who's "won" a lot of playoff games, which is fine until you realize that he has more postseason interceptions (seven) than touchdowns (six). And the last time Flacco faced the Patriots in the playoffs, he "won" a wild-card game, 33-14, despite throwing just 10 passes and competing only four. In fact, he didn't throw a single touchdown pass in four of his first five playoff games.

    Reed, who's been one of the smartest players in the NFL since Flacco was attending high school, knows all this. His outburst was most likely an attempt at motivation, and the "tough love" that's been a part of the Ravens' culture for a long time. If Flacco gets past the Patriots and his own limitations, it's all systems go for the Super Bowl. But all the pressure is on Flacco now, and even his teammates know it. If he can't pull it off this time, he's likely to be more defined by that.

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    • Dave  •  4 months ago
      I would rather be Joe Flacco than a Jet fan...
      • Lou Rosen 4 months ago
        and youd rather take it up the butt to
      • b ball 4 months ago
        Hey, Rosen, Nope. That would be a Jets fan too.
      • Dave 4 months ago
        Hey Lou, learn how to spell. Whatta dope!
    • Hippopapotamus  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  4 months ago
      the truth hurts. flacco isn't a bad qb, but you have to give credit where it's due and much of the ravens success comes from ray rice or the defense. he could become an elite qb cause he has the skillset, but right now it's a bunch of other guys doing a lot more work to help the team succeed. he also needs to be a better road qb. he seems to not show up sometimes on the road (see vs. ten and vs. jac)
      • Angler Emeritus 4 months ago
        Ray Rice wouldn't do a thing if it wasn't for the big boys on the line.
      • mgravis 4 months ago
        Ray Rice makes plays and breaks tackles all the time. Flacco is a mediocre qb on a team that has had a great defense his entire career. The truth hurts sometimes.
      • Sierra Man 4 months ago
        Yeah sure Mgravis. I'm sure the guy with the most wins in NFL history in his first 4 years is worrying about your criticism. Joe will be fine. Wins baby, the bottom line.
    • Slinger  •  4 months ago
      Let's put it this way, if Flacco can't pass and put up a bunch of TDs on the second worst passing deffense (pats) on Sunday, then he is F A R from an elite QB that he seems to think he is...
      • Foo 4 months ago
        He's not an elite QB even if he does win on Sunday against the Pats! Put him on a team where the defense is questionable and see how he does.
      • EJ 4 months ago
        Well...we all know the Pats defense tends to rise to the occasion in the postseason
      • Terry 4 months ago
        I don't know that Joe thinks he is an elite QB, but he is tired of being called the achilles heel of the Ravens. He does what he told with the talent he has surrounding him.
    • Jimmy  •  Baltimore, Maryland  •  4 months ago
      It's not just Flacco. It's Cam Cameron. He call's shittty plays. We couldn't get the ball in the endzone from the 1. That's bad play selection.
      • C W 4 months ago
        we've GOT to get rid of Cameron!!
      • Hayden 4 months ago
        You said it best Jimmy! Flacco isn't as much to blame as Cameron
      • dolphinfan 4 months ago
        as a Dolphins fan, I can sympathize with you that Cam Cameron's play calling can leave you with a lot more questions than answers.
    • Jason D  •  4 months ago
      If Joe Flacco wins the Superbowl with under 150 passing yards passing and 1 TD, will people say he is a mediocre QB who just managed the game? Because that was Brady's line from Superbowl XXXVI 10 years ago.
    • TimothyH  •  Los Angeles, California  •  4 months ago
      if ed reed says youre not getting it done...youre not getting it done.
      • TRACY 4 months ago
        Normally I would agree, but how many balls did Ed reed drop last Sunday?
      • gary 4 months ago
        Tracy, you do realize Reed is a safty, and if i remember correctly he had the game sealing int.
      • Dave 4 months ago
        But, will Ed Reed play this Sunday? And if he does... how effective will he be?
    • Wags  •  4 months ago
      Joe Flacco is not an elite quarterback. He's in the middle of the pack. The Ravens winning formula is great running game and great defense. Not everybody can be Rogers/Brees/Brady.
    • Scales  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  4 months ago
      What's the point of throwing your qb under the bus, right before the biggest game of his career? The window is already closing on Baltimore's defense, they're only getting older. This could be their last shot. Everyone knows, that defense and Rice carries the team, but you really don't need your own teammate straight dissing you in the media.
    • Doug S  •  Annapolis, Maryland  •  4 months ago
      Flacco doesn't need to be an elite quarterback, he's still learning his chops. He's a good, solid quarterback, and he may get there. Reed was tough on himself, too, I noticed. He's just trying to get the team fired up.
    • Bob  •  Baltimore, Maryland  •  4 months ago
      If you listen to all of Reed's comments he calls out the whole team to play better. This is just more national media piling on based on taking some facts that fit their agenda without accurately looking at the big picture from Ed Reed's comments and regarding Joe Flacco in general. The national media is overwhelmingly made up of big market fans that pretty much look for reasons to always pick on and against teams like the Ravens. If Joe Flacco and the Ravens (small market team) win Sunday he will be 50-23 as a starting NFL QB in his first four years. OUTSTANDING and the best in NFL History! He makes enough plays to help his team win and overwhelmingly avoids the mistakes that many other QBs make that costs their teams the game. Most Raven fans know very well with their own eyes how VERY GOOD Joe Flacco is from our Kyle Boller experience (nice kid but a turnover machine). The Packer's Aaron Rogers did not even become the starter until is 4th year in the league. Joe is learning on the job and still winning because he is on a good team where his skills and team approach to playing the position adds great value. He started the season with Anquan Bolden (2nd year with Ravens), the great Ray Rice, and basically 2 rookie wideouts and 2 second year tight ends who caught less than 20 balls between them in their rookie seasons. The best is yet to come as this group builds their playing relationships and I look forward to watching Joe go from VERY GOOD to ELITE. Haters will always be haters. The Ravens have been shown to be one of the best big game road teams in NFL History and their 7-4 Road Playoff Record bears this out. The New England Patriots better be ready for an all out physical war on the football field against a very good offense and an elite defense. Wait and see Sunday!
      By the way, the Ravens typically feed off of this bashing and will come out even more motivated to win this game than they would naturally already be given it is the AFC Championship.The Patriots have an elite offense and are at home but if the team from Baltimore shows up that Ravens fans have seen and expect look for the Baltimore Ravens Sunday to drop another bitter pill on New England fans like the Orioles did on the Red Sox a few months ago.
    • Jack  •  Needham, Massachusetts  •  4 months ago
      We'll never know how good Flacco is until the Ravens get rid of Cam Cameron, the worst offensive coordinator in the NFL. This is pretty common knowledge. I've probably watched 20-25 Ravens games over the past four seasons (I don't live in Baltimore area), plus a bunch of ESPN and NFL Network shows, and no one has ever complimented Cameron. Ozzie has got to get rid of him.
    • Bronica  •  Alexandria, Virginia  •  4 months ago
      Without Reed the Raven should be fine, but without Joe, Raven will be in trouble.
    • Henry  •  Corning, New York  •  4 months ago
      If my ravens lose to the patriots, I expect to see Cam Cameron on the unemployment list and flaaco on the trading block. We need to correct the problem positions
    • dancing king  •  Houston, Texas  •  4 months ago
      The Texans defense would have held the Ravens to one touchdown had it not been for Jacoby Jones' terrible decision and some poorly thrown passes by a rookie QB.
    • Steve  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  4 months ago
      this guy would be lucky to have 20 wins in 4 seasons if he played w/cleveland or some other team who doesnt have that dominant defense that baltimore has. trent dilfer won a superbowl w/this defense!!!!!
    • muxz  •  4 months ago
      This is feeling like deja vu. Trent Dilfer 2.0?
    • mccrimedog  •  Plattsmouth, Nebraska  •  4 months ago
      Whether or not his analysis is correct, Mr. Reed is not behaving
      like a good teammate, is he? This sort of criticism is best leveled
      "in house"; not with the media. Very low class behavior on the
      part of Mr. Reed IMO.
    • BigPerm  •  Columbia, Maryland  •  4 months ago
      Sanchez and Flacco sitting in a tree, s-u-c-k-i-n-g...
      First came happiness, then came luck...
      Then came the realization that they both kinda suck...
    • jere  •  4 months ago
      To be fair, neither of the quarterbacks that played in Baltimore last week played impressively. Unless Flacco and company get some things straightened out this week, it's gonna get UGLY in Foxboro on Sunday.
    • deadpaddyj  •  Colorado Springs, Colorado  •  4 months ago
      Flacco wouldn't be the first quarterback to be a "winner" who was surrounded by a great defense and running game. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer both managed to win Super Bowls with just that formula, so maybe Flacco can do the same? I don't see how the Ravens can do so if Flacco doesn't play big.

      By the way, many a GREAT quarterback was never able to win the SB because the team around him wasn't good enough. It goes both ways.

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