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    Decision on Peyton Manning may have been made ‘weeks ago’

    This could be the end of a beautiful friendship. (Getty Images)

    Peel away the layers of the ongoing Peyton Manning-Indianapolis Colts drama, and you get more layers. After the verbal tennis match between Manning and team owner Jim Irsay, and the alleged reconciliation/resolution, it seemed that we were back to watching and waiting to see whether Manning's neck and nerve injuries would heal in time for Irsay to decide whether to pick up the quarterback's $28 million roster bonus on March 8, and make him the face of the team's rebuild.

    At least, that's what we thought. We may have been wrong, and the decision may have already been made. According to Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network, this is a done deal — and Manning will indeed be playing somewhere else if he ever plays again.

    "According to sources who were involved in the Colts' GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner," La Canfora said on the NFL Network's Friday afternoon "Total Access" show.

    La Canfora also said that the decision will almost certainly be made before the 2012 scouting combine in late February. Like the Super Bowl, the combine will be held at Indianapolis' Lucas Oil Stadium. Basically, Indianapolis will be the center of the NFL universe for at least the next month.

    As is his custom, Irsay took to Twitter to refute the report.

    This is official ... until it's not.

    We'll see. The changes continue to roll in Indy — the most recent coaching move Irsay made was to hire former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians to do the same job for him and new head coach Chuck Pagano. Potential free agents and former franchise cornerstones Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday, and Reggie Wayne might be finding new homes, and the Colts are clearly ramping up for a major construction project.

    Wayne recently told the Indianapolis Star that he's in the dark about the team's plans - just like most everyone else.

    "I have no clue, man. I'm leaning on you guys (the media). You're all saying it's a new regime and that's what it is. This is one time all of the players are outside of the loop, even 18 (quarterback Peyton Manning). Nobody has a clue."

    "It's like a soap opera. You're wondering, 'OK, what's next?' You hear something, then you see it on the ticker, that the Colts are doing this or that. At one point we were thinking Jim Tressel was going to be the coach. All of a sudden it's Chuck Pagano."

    No matter how Irsay's handled this, that's the one thing he's right about — the last five years of questionable drafts and free agent moves under Bill and Chris Polian have left the Colts in a state of extreme disrepair. And it doesn't make a lot of sense to have two expensive quarterbacks on that roster, as the Colts would if they kept Manning and drafted Andrew Luck with the first overall pick. Which they almost certainly will do.

    At the same time, Irsay doesn't want to be known as the man who ran the most important player in the history of the Colts' time in Indianapolis out the door with half a thought in mind.

    The reckoning is coming soon, and it looks more and more like the new Colts will be without Peyton Manning when they start the 2012 season.

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    • Sameer  •  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
      if luck ends up sucking, and all these new coaches suck too, irsay will get lit up
      • Slick 3 months ago
        Back in '98 the Colts could have taken Manning or Leaf, and we see who was a bust and who is a future hall of famer. I'm really scared that the Colts are going through this again with Luck and Griffin, but this time Luck may be a Leaf.
      • Us and Them 3 months ago
        @Slick....Ryan Leaf might be the worst possible example you could compare Andrew Luck to. Luck, in addition to be an oustanding student at Stanford, ran (and called the plays for) an offense that was the polar opposite of Leaf's Washington State 4-5 WR offense. And Luck has been the epitome of a mature and competent team leader. No disrespect to RGIII, but I think Andrew Luck will be an excellent NFL franchise QB and if the Colts had to stink up the NFL, they picked the perfect time to do it.
      • KG 3 months ago
        @Us And Them, you can't tell until the guys get to the big leagues. Leaf was a perfect example of a phenomenal college player not cut out for the fast paced life of the NFL. Draft picks are entirely hit or miss (The Brady six comes to mind) so the Colts just have to get lucky here. Really, really lucky if they're dropping a future hall of famer for a potential bust.

        If the Colts were smart they would trade that first round pick for a guy who is already acclimated to the NFL. But the potential feel-good story that Luck would bring to the team is too good for them to pass up.
    • George N  •  Cleveland, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      Peyton has earned and deserves the right to finish and retire as a Colt. He already has taken less money during early contract negotations for the horeshoe. Now it is Irsay's time to pony up like Peyton has for him and the horeshoe. If Irsay drops the Greatest QB in the NFL he better hope I never run into him and I will not buy anymore horseshoe appearel.
      • Matthew 3 months ago
        Peyton is great, but do you seriously think he is the greatest QB in th NFL?
      • Christopher 3 months ago
        He is
      • Rob 3 months ago
        NO Player deserves anything.....and Irsay did Manning a favor by PAYING HIM 26 million this year when they knew he wasn.t going to play....
    • Heywood Jablome  •  3 months ago
      Two expensive quarterbacks? The days of #1 draft picks getting $50 million are over. Luck will be earning a lot less than mediocre QBs in this league. The Colts picked the right year to get the #1 pick. Last year it would have cost them $60 million while this year it will be one-third of that.
      • branden 3 months ago
        Ty somebody who knows what there talking about well spend less next year even if we keep manning and get luck
      • JonathanF 3 months ago
        You're a year off HJ. It's been a year already of salary cap for rookies. Cam signed for 4 years.......................22 million. Bradford got a boatload more in 2010. But they could do a deal of signing luck and keeping manning for 1 more year. He might want to retire by then after a few hits. They just gotta figure out how to get around his roster bonus. Manning will want that and Colts don't wanna pay it.
      • Jason G 3 months ago
        Luck would be getting a huge signing bonus, somewhere around the 18-20 million mark to go along with the 28 million bonus paid to Manning. Yes those can both be amortized over the contract length for cap purposes, but its still nearly 50 million in bonuses to two players which only one can play at a time.
    • Mike  •  Reno, Nevada  •  3 months ago
      Here's a story, MEDIA, shut your mouth until you have the truth instead of speculation, media lies can cause teams to break apart from the rumors, so the instability and trust issues come out.
      • Big Guido 3 months ago
        this is what I said on an earlier story. These stories have got to stop until one of 2 things happen, the March 8th deadline or a press conference held by both Manning and Irsay. Until then no one knows what is going to happen. Isay has stated that "if he is healthy he will be a Colt," and Manning has stated that he "will retire as a Colt." Stop the stories until you hear it from the true source, or in other words the "horses" mouth.
      • Carlos 3 months ago
        If these two are having trust issues because of the media, then it mean they never really had any trust between them. If they understand each other, then it shouldn't matter what anyone else says.
    • MC Puck  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  3 months ago
      As a Patriot fan, and fellow spoiled sports brat, I feel for the indy fans who have no concept of what life without a stud QB can be. This isn't about you, nor is it about Peyton Manning. It's about the simple concept of money. It's not news that the combined salaries of a #1 overall pick PLUS Peyton equals 25-30 million dollars. In a salary cap world, this would be crippling to the teams success. There's no way they keep Manning on the books simply because they can build a contender slowly but surely with what I call Manning 2.0 + a significant amount of money to pay towards OTHER skill players. Keep in mind, Manning was going to retire or leave at some point anyways, it's only because they have the ability to draft the most complete college QB in a LONG time to replace him that we're having this discussion. Be glad you have someone who can step in and not worry about the slow and painful regression of a proud franchise.
      • Chip 3 months ago
        Been a Colt fan for 40+ years, I have seen my share of so-so QBs running the show. Manning has been great and I hope the solution here is that he either stays and finishes with the Colts ( I can't seem to figure how they do it but nevertheless I hope) or he retire. This is just an absolute mess right now and things are only getting more messy as the days click by.
    • javier r  •  Austin, Texas  •  3 months ago
      So which team(if he leaves) would have the best chance on landing him?
    • sharonf  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 months ago
      The are absolutely insane to let Peyton Manning go anywhere! I seriously do not think he will be playing anywhere, but geez, he could certainly been a QB coach for the colts, it's not that hard to figure out, he could coach anywhere, or play anywhere, but for now, not certain if he is going to be a Colt at all, doesn't seem like management is confident in his injury, will be very interesting, we read in our paper yesterday, well, haven't read the article, but the article mentioned about the Texans being interested in him, who in the hell wouldn't be, will have to just stay tuned to find out very interesting!
    • GT  •  Newark, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      A shame that Peyton left so much money on the table over the years, for the good of the franchise. He could have commanded much more in salary, and declined.............should have made Irsay have to sell his guitar collection to pay him!!!
    • Pookie  •  3 months ago
      there are 28 million reasons why he is done in Indy.
    • stan  •  Noblesville, Indiana  •  3 months ago
      What is all the B/S with the last five years? It was just three seasons ago the Colts were in the Superbowl. The year after that they were 10-6 with 18 starters out and this year Peyton was out. With the draft pick this year and Peyton coming back the Colts could of been very good this upcoming year. Irsay decides to tear this team apart. Watch the out come of this one.
    • Robert Brunn  •  Richmond Hill, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      If they kick Peyton to the curb like a old can after all he has done for the franchise I hope they get bit in the butt. Wouldn't it be something if they can Peyton and Andrew Luck decides he doesn't want to be in that drama and turns down the draft choice to Indy. It could happen. Eli didn't go to San Diego and John Elway didn't go to the Baltimore Colts when they drafted him. Then Irsay would be left with no Manning and no Luck.
    • Lone Gunman  •  Waynesboro, Virginia  •  3 months ago
      All the Colts need do is look at history, ie, Farve and Rodgers. Rodgers sat on the bench for a few years as an understudy of Farve and look at him now! If the Colts do the same with Luck and Manning, it might also be a win/win for them in the future. We all know that a rookie will need to be vetted and keeping him under Manning for a few years will be a plus for him in the end. As was stated though, Luck may not want to wait to try to prove himself. Egos are like that, hey!
    • raymond p  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
      wow a lot of colts fan jumping off peyton's band wagon the guy who brought u ur first super bowl win n happy for a guy who may not even lead your team to a wild card in the next 4 years where's the loyalty much less the love
    • justaman  •  Phoenix, Arizona  •  3 months ago
      I feel like someone with the same problem as Peyton only differance is I have had multiple fusion with cadavier graph from that surgery I HAVE NOT RECOVERD(sp) I have a post lamenectomy,radiculapthy,neuaprathy,my body rejected the bone graph I live in pain 24/7/365 I take 180 mg of Morphine 60mg/3 times plus 30mgpercocet 10mg/325 for break thru pain the problem is the nerve when they are damaged they have a mind of there own just like people some wake up and thrive some try and never reach full potential some don't even try and some are so damaged they give up and do not recover if Peyton returns I think he will have a playbook instead of a football BUT after this much time has passed with him nerve damage is almost for sure and his range of motion in the cervical region is for certian for the most part is going to be limited how much not even the doctors know WE SHALL SEE thanks for reading P.S. I am disabled and living in hell good LUCK to ya Peyton
    • fredg  •  Grand Rapids, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      Manning has to look no further than Farve and the way he was ousted from Green Bay. Doesn't matter how good you are, when the team starts looking towards the future, the old folks get forced out. Don't be so #$%$ sentimental.
    • Concerned citizen  •  Orlando, Florida  •  3 months ago
      If Peyton goes somewhere else to play the Colts will suffer for many years to come, but if they make him the QB coach then he would still be within the org. and help them re-tool the team. Peyton is more than a QB and the sooner the Colts realize this the better for the whole team. I hope they don't follow in the footsteps of the Tennessee Titans who when they had a great QB but he was getting older let him go so they could pick an unknown quanity in Vince Young who has never been nor will he ever be an NFL type of QB.
    • Deion Maligaya  •  3 months ago
      As much as I love Peyton, I really think he should retire. He's going to be playing with screws and bolts on his neck. One little mishap can easily hurt him even more. I do want to see him play again, but at the same time I'm scared for him. I wish him the very best.
    • uncleshady702  •  Las Vegas, Nevada  •  3 months ago
      Another Pats fan checking in with respect for Peyton.
    • VETTMAN  •  Rochester, New York  •  3 months ago
      come on Buffalo.....sign Peyton and get back in the saddle once again!
    • B.J.  •  Tucker, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      if nothing else, Peyton should be kept in Indy to coach the other quarterbacks so Indy can try to get back to what they had with Peyton. Irsay and the city and the State owe everything to Peyton. He's shown loyalty to Indy by staying his whole career there and now it's time for Indy to show the same loyalty to him. He may be down, but the MAN HAS SKILLS that he can pass on to the understudies or the new quarterback that can't be bought. Keep Peyton in Indy. I'm a female and even I know that. sometimes men are soooooooooooo dumb!!! LOL

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