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    10 who lost at this year’s scouting combine

    Vontaze Burfict now has time to wonder about a very questionable combine. (AP)

    The scouting combine provides an opportunity for prospects to deliver on expectations or risk taking a hit to their draft stock. Not everyone left Indianapolis with smiles on their faces.

    QB Brock Osweiler, Arizona State -- A one-year starter in college, Osweiler said at the combine that he was almost fully recovered from the foot sprain that kept him from training for the 40-yard dash, but the decision not to throw could be costly. Osweiler can make every throw, but questions remain about his ability to get out of the pocket and make those passes work on the move. Everything now comes down to his Pro Day on March 30.

    WR Kendall Wright, Baylor -- Robert Griffin III's favorite target, Wright was expected to come to the combine and show off his potential as a speed slot receiver in the Victor Cruz/DeSean Jackson mold. But he looked chunky, didn't run very well (an official 4.61 40), and really struggled with speed cuts in drills.

    TE Cory Harkey, UCLA -- The 2012 class of tight ends isn't a strong one, but Harkey was seen by some as an interesting hybrid player -- a good receiver and a solid blocker. However, he ran a 5.11 40 at 6-foot-4 and 260 pounds, and the 13 reps he put up in the bench will have some teams wondering about his upper-body strength.

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    OT Mike Adams, Ohio State -- Speaking of the bench press ... well, it's usually a pretty good indicator for linemen on either side of the ball. Adams, who's still dealing with questions about his overall game, put up just 19 reps. That's a bit of a problem for a player who might be asked to kick over to right tackle in the NFL -- a position that generally requires more power.

    DE Vinny Curry, Marshall -- One of many speed rushers in this draft class (at least on tape), Curry has to be flummoxed by the 4.98 40 he put up at the combine. The 2011 Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year put up some big numbers at Marshall, but his slow time may have sealed what some experts believe -- that at the NFL level, Curry may lack the technique to affect quarterbacks, and he may have to accept a place as a bigger 4-3 end or hybrid player.

    DT Michael Brockers, LSU -- The top-ranked defensive tackle on most boards, Brockers has been seen as a near-sure thing (or, as close as one player can be in this process). His long arms, so often an asset on the field, worked against him when he could only put up 19 reps in the bench press. Brockers ran an alarmingly slow 5.36 40 and finished very low in other drills -- 26.5 inches in the vertical jump, and 4.81 seconds in the short shuttle. "I'm blessed to have this frame and still be quick with it," Brockers said during his media session. "I feel like at 322 [pounds], I can move a lot better than some other guys can move. So I feel like that's my biggest strength. How big I am and how quick I am." That may be true on tape, but Brockers didn't do himself any favors in Indy.

    Courtney Upshaw wasn't terrible at the combine, but more was expected. (AP)

    OLB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State -- General rule of thumb: When you're the NCAA's poster child for on-field penalties, and you throw your coaches under the bus during your combine media session, you'd better tear it up during the drills. Burfict did no such thing, running a 5.09 40 and looking less than impressive in positional drills. Burfict has a rep as a player who would rather go for the kill shot than the fundamentally correct tackle, and quotes like this won't help his case: "I played average," Burfict said of his 2011 season. "I could've played better. That's what hurt me at times. The coaches kind of messed me up. I didn't know if I would start a game or be benched. It hurt me, but I tried to fight through it." True or not, the last thing any team wants to hear is a player blaming his coaches.

    [ Michael Silver: NFL needs to make the scouting combine more accessible ]

    OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama -- Upshaw has been projected by most NFL teams as a possible 3-4 outside linebacker, and with his pass rush ability (not to mention the versatility with which Alabama defenders are expected to play), it was thought that he could match Melvin Ingram's success in combine drills. But he didn't seem especially quick around the edge, appeared to be a bit one-dimensional, struggled in coverage drills, and didn't flash elite athleticism. Those watching Upshaw on tape will likely move past those issues because he does have great fundamentals, but Upshaw could have come out of the combine with a lot more buzz.

    CB Cliff Harris, Oregon -- As it was with Burfict, Harris was unable to transcend a litany of concerns with a great combine performance. The multiple suspensions and eventual dismissal from Oregon were bad enough, but when Harris couldn't even break 4.6 and looked logey in position drills, he might as well have put "Buyer Beware" on the back of his jersey.

    CB Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina -- Norman still has the tape of the East-West Shrine Game to buttress his stock -- he was one of the true standouts in the contest -- but the official 4.66 40 he ran at the combine will have some wondering about his applicable speed at the next level. Primarily a press corner, Norman may struggle to keep pace with the NFL's faster pass-catchers.

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    43 comments

    • GoBucks  •  2 months ago
      What does "logey" mean?
      • jimribs 2 months ago
        Tired, and unable to give your best. Usually happens from eating the wrong things. I learned it from the Simpsons.
      • X 2 months ago
        So, in other words, it's another ridiculous made-up word that a quasi-journalist shouldn't be using in his writing.
      • Steve 2 months ago
        ask Rick Barry, he used it in one of his interviews years ago..I think he invented it back then..
    • J  •  2 months ago
      Who needs 2 or 3 seasons of game film? 40's and bench press reps are the untimate arbiter of NFL success, ask Mike Mamula. They just play the games in shorts and under armor anyway.
    • Rooster Cogburn  •  2 months ago
      Not a huge fan of the combine. Besides, they should be running with full pads on grass and turf. Jerry Rice ran a 4.65. Hands and precise route running is far more important than flat out speed.
    • El Capitan  •  Peoria, Arizona  •  2 months ago
      wow, great day for ASU football
    • FasterThanSnow  •  Indianapolis, Indiana  •  2 months ago
      The first two comments are from NFL coaches no doubt.
    • "Rich"  •  2 months ago
      You know who looked really good at the combine a few years ago? Vernon Gholtson.
      • NMSU 2 months ago
        Andre Johnson looked amazing at the combine...
    • King of Kings  •  San Diego, California  •  2 months ago
      The 40 is overrated but for Burfict to run a 5.09 is a red flag. Couple that with his media session and he'll be lucky to get drafted.
      • Mobius 2 months ago
        If history is any indicator, the Raiders will probably take him.
      • Bleh 2 months ago
        He will get drafted by a team willing to take a chance, but probably in the 5th round or so.
    • Doctor Biobrain  •  Austin, Texas  •  2 months ago
      People complaining about the combine miss the point: A winner wins, always. And if they can't, they push themselves to get as humanly possible. Sure, the combine isn't going to be a perfect prediction of football skillz, but it does show who's pushing themselves and who's just showing up. Talent is the starting point, not the end of winning.
    • Don Wert  •  Fairbanks, Alaska  •  2 months ago
      Logey is a Lettermanesque Hoosier term meaning slow as after too much victuals
    • roger  •  Lenexa, Kansas  •  2 months ago
      I'll bet the Chiefs take one of the guys that went down in rating
    • ewb23  •  Los Angeles, California  •  2 months ago
      Absolutely, completely nit-picking on Courtney Upshaw. Why don't you just watch him play football? He had nothing to prove. Nobody's using him in coverage more than a snap or two a game. Get real.
    • Fritz  •  Saginaw, Michigan  •  2 months ago
      i dont understand all the hype over 40 times. like kendell wright can go wayyyy faster than many of the poeple at this combine that got better 40 times than him so the 40 isn't even a good judge of flat out speed?
    • FasterThanSnow  •  Indianapolis, Indiana  •  2 months ago
      Mike Adams is having trouble I think. He could be really good in the NFL if he picks up his act. Key word: if.
    • ThomasA  •  Richardson, Texas  •  2 months ago
      these 40 times make you wonder if they measured in meters (131') versus yards (120')
    • just a joe  •  Palo Cedro, California  •  2 months ago
      Hey G0Bucks----do you think he meant "loggy"?--- A "loge" is a good seat at the opera.
    • Shane  •  2 months ago
      If I were talented enough to get a chance like this I would train my rear off many moons before the combine to make the grade in each category. Yes talent has a lot to do with ones abilities but practice and preparation never hurt anyone.
      • NMSU 2 months ago
        Until you see the work that it actually takes to bench 225 over 20 times. You would be at the gym 2 times a day and when you aren't at the gym you would be running at some track.
    • Igneous  •  2 months ago
      I suppose it won't be too long a wait for a top draftee to fully disses the team that selects him....on stage, to Goddell.
    • Da miller man  •  Danville, Illinois  •  2 months ago
      just goes to prove that some players have the ability to be better with the better players around them. in this case i believe it so
    • brians  •  2 months ago
      watch the wisconsin game when mike adams "tried' to block jj watts, it was sad he would get a hand on him.
    • GP  •  2 months ago
      I think college players opting for the draft forget one thing: the NFL is the BEST of the best. But because they were a hotshot in college and are being hyped as this round's pick or that round's pick, they don't have to do their job and prepare. As a scout my thought would be that if you are that lax in preparation to PROVE to me you belong, what are you going to be like in four or five years?

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