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    Joe Paterno: ‘I just did what I thought was best’

    Sign outside of Beaver Stadium (Mario Tama/Getty)

    Joe Paterno wishes he had done more after hearing accusations in 2002 that former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky had been caught acting inappropriately with a young boy in the Penn State locker room, but admits he "didn't know which way to go" with the information.

    In a lengthy interview with Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post, Paterno's first since he was fired from the university on Nov. 9, Paterno reveals his thought process during a fateful meeting with graduate assistant Mike McQueary, as well as his regrets about the fallout that cost him his job and permanently tarnished his legacy.

    buffett.jpgLast month, McQueary — a State College native and former starting quarterback who remained on Paterno's staff until the scandal broke in early November — testified that he personally saw Sandusky with his arms wrapped around a boy's waist in a shower, and believed (although he was not 100 percent certain) that the boy was being sodomized. He immediately called his father, and they decided he should go to Paterno the next day. In his interview with Jenkins, Paterno said he didn't feel "adequate" enough to deal with the charge:

    "(McQueary) was very upset and I said why, and he was very reluctant to get into it," Paterno said. "He told me what he saw, and I said, what? He said it, well, looked like inappropriate, or fondling, I'm not quite sure exactly how he put it. I said you did what you had to do. It's my job now to figure out what we want to do. So I sat around. It was a Saturday. Waited till Sunday because I wanted to make sure I knew what I was doing. And then I called my superiors and I said, 'Hey, we got a problem, I think. Would you guys look into it?' Cause I didn't know, you know. We never had, until that point, 58 years I think, I had never had to deal with something like that. And I didn't feel adequate.

    "You know, he didn't want to get specific. And to be frank with you I don't know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a problem, that would be following up on it."

    Paterno said he told athletic director Tim Curley and school vice president Gary Schultz what he saw and left it in their hands to do the right thing:

    "I didn't know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was," he said. "So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn't work out that way."

    Curley and Schultz never reported Sandusky to authorities, who now say he went on to abuse other boys until the investigation that led to his arrest began in 2010. Sandusky is facing several dozen felony counts of deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, unlawful contact with a minor, endangering the welfare of a child and indecent assault against at least eight victims over more than a decade.

    Curley and Schultz are both facing charges of perjury and failure to report, and maintain that McQueary "did not indicate there was something of a sexual nature" during their meeting. At the time, Curley responded by telling Sandusky he was banned from coming into the building with children from his charity, The Second Mile, but otherwise did not restrict access.

    buffett.jpgThe other interesting tidbit in the story surrounded Paterno's firing. An assistant athletic director delivered a piece of paper with the name of Penn State vice chairman of trustees, John Surma and a phone number to Paterno's home. Paterno, who was in his pajamas, called the number and Surma told him he was fired. After 61 years , that's it. Paterno's wife, Sue, was so upset that she redialed the number after Paterno hung up. "After 61 years he deserved better," she said. "He deserved better."

    The interview was done last week in Paterno's home and was monitored by Paterno's attorney Wick Sollers of the Washington law firm King & Spalding, and a communications adviser, Dan McGinn of TMG Strategies. Paterno, 85, is currently battling lung cancer and was confined to a wheelchair during the interview. On Friday, Paterno was admitted to a hospital in State College with complications from ongoing chemotherapy treatments.

    While the interview is interesting because it's the first time Paterno has spoken to the media since he was fired, the story is hardly a revelation. In general, it rehashes the accepted account as outlined in previous testimony, then splashes in some interesting color to give us a better look at Paterno as a man. It might leave some angry at Paterno's inaction and his excuses for more or less ignoring what was going on in his own building. The fact that McQueary wasn't specific enough for him to do anything is also a little disturbing. Paterno's comment that he had never heard of "rape and a man" is just out of touch.

    This story certainly doesn't endear the reader to Paterno. It doesn't make us feel better about him being the one McQueary went to, and it certainly doesn't absolve him of any wrongdoing in this matter, even it he legally fulfilled his obligation to report to his superiors.

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    • Extreme Views  •  Tulsa, Oklahoma  •  4 months ago
      Very simple some grown ugly man having sex with a child you call the cops then do everything you can to make sure this crumb is locked up GESHHH
      • Sam Fair 4 months ago
        I'm with you Extreme. Just call the #$%$ police. It's as simple as that.
      • Patrick 4 months ago
        If it were a good looking man I guess it would be alright ?
      • Patrick 4 months ago
        Weirdo !
    • Jose C  •  Davenport, Florida  •  4 months ago
      How could a man walk away from a boy being raped and do nothing. Coward.
      • Mike 4 months ago
        That is the question I have had since the beginning of this, was he waiting for him to finish? how would you live with yourself after witnessing that??
      • Sun Baby 4 months ago
        I'm sure McQueary was in shock and embarrassed. Most people would call the police immediately, and they would go in "overdrive" reporting it. First, you have to understand university settings -- they follow the chain of command. On the other hand, if you are a person who thinks "out of the box" -- you take control of the situation right now with no delay, university setting or not. I'm sorry to say most of the higher ups like to sweep anything unpleasant under the carpet. You rarely see people putting the victim first. Things need to change after this evil scandal.
      • califmom 4 months ago
        Not only that, but continue to see him at work?!?
    • robert s  •  4 months ago
      College sports should be for college students, but they have become big business, with high dollar coaches and semi-pro, scholarship'ed players that are anything, but scholars. The whole scam should be shut down. Let the "real" students play.
      • AJ 4 months ago
        Paterno was the lowest paid coach in the Big 10. Penn State football is not about big business. It's about student-athletes getting a college education and then playing football. It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. The real story is the travesty, alleged, that happened to underprivileged children, and the university administration failing to do anything about it. The football program is being made the scapegoat. The alleged predator was not on the coaching staff and was supposedly providing underprivileged kids with help. The idiocy about the program knowing about JS and his perversion is nonsense and pure speculation. This is why there are courts and something called due process. You probably don't know what due process is since you believe everything the media spews.
      • Jim Edge 4 months ago
        "The football program is being made the scapegoat." ????? This just shows that you believe that this is about FOOTBALL.... The alleged activity took place in the shower room in a PSU building... on their premises....
      • AJ 4 months ago
        By the university and the university board of trustees, yes. The university representatives were the ones who failed to take action. Not Joe Paterno. Thus the PA Grand Jury reports findings. What is JoePa charged with by the Commonwealth of PA? Nothing... Who fired Joe Paterno. The courts of PA? The State Police? THe Media? Or was it.....Wait for it, ....The university board of trustees? I'm sorry you are slow to gather the facts and quick to jump to conclusions, but please acknowledge that you don't know what you are talking about. It's absurd.
    • Jay  •  4 months ago
      You were conflicted about a full grown man going at a boy?
      • Straight 4 months ago
        I find it hard to believe that Poor Joe knew nothing about rape man on boy!
      • Paul Jones 4 months ago
        Joe knew.....they all knew.
      • CHAR07 4 months ago
        Amen! They all knew. We don't want to hear any more from you, Joe. You just dig yourself deeper
    • Antonio  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  4 months ago
      Gee Joe. If that was your son you would have done the same, right?
      • julia 432 4 months ago
        very good point
      • julia 432 4 months ago
        of course not
        jp could of should of done better
        did he ever ask why .... after he went to the "higher-ups" and saw that
        the creep is still working at Penn State??????
        JS doesnt look normal to me he looks like a pervert
      • julia 432 4 months ago
        Really JP?
    • W  •  4 months ago
      Let me think: I am and adult and I see a naked man fondling (or more) a naked boy. What do i do? Stop it? Call 911? Think about it? Run home and tell my daddy? Now the adult reports it to his boss, who never heard of men abusing boys in 2002?? So what does boss do? Think about it overnight? It was more than stupidity, it was more than cowardice; it was about CYA. Certainly more than Joe Pa knew about it or Sandusky would have been hired elsewhere. How many more knew and when did they know? College sports covered up like the Catholic Church covered up and boys suffered.
    • Ross  •  Austin, Texas  •  4 months ago
      we all learned right from wrong as children.......claiming ignorance is so lame
    • lola  •  Burlington, Canada  •  4 months ago
      He didn't know where to go with the information that a co-worker was raping kids in the shower? I'm not a lawyer or anything, but the POLICE might have been a suggestion.
    • ogreswife  •  4 months ago
      I'm sure that the reputation of the university was much more important.
    • Paul  •  Wallingford, Connecticut  •  4 months ago
      You know what? #$%$ It wasn't MrQuery's duty to go to Paterno, it was McQueary's duty to go to police. Especially when it was clear no action was being taken. Everyone else was being asked to factor in something other than the crime, although that may never have been specifically stated. Nobody gets a pass by saying I told my supervisor, but least of all McQueary.
    • yuck yuck  •  West Bloomfield, Michigan  •  4 months ago
      He should have asked himself, "What if this were my son or my grandson?" I bet he would have know what the right thing to do was then.
    • jennifer  •  Lima, Ohio  •  4 months ago
      My heart goes out to the Boys who were victimized. There are no words ever to say for the pain that they endured then and now.
      Everyone who was involved, (this means everyone who new about it) and did nothing then and then denied it now needs to be in Jail the rest of their lives so a Man named Bertha can do the same thing to them.
    • IHU  •  3 months ago
      Sorry, but with Sandusky's victim count climbing day by day, why is it that some people refuse to reflect on how much influence Paterno had? And the impact he COULD have made! Faced with a chance to use that impact to protect innocent boys forever scarred by Sandusky, Paterno didn't go far enough when suspicions were raised. He just didn't.

      So please shed no tears for Paterno. He lived a very good life. He made SURE it went unscathed! Untouched! Undisturbed! Paterno, his "reputation", and the reputation of PSU were PROTECTED! That would not have been the case, had this scandal come out, and we all know THAT was the great motivator of secrecy... don't we?
      Save your pity for the trusting boys who may grow up into tortured men, not Joe Paterno. Spare me the indignation over Paterno getting fired over the phone.
      If Paterno had picked the phone up 13 years ago and called the most powerful law-enforcement official he knew in the state [and we know he knew who they were], not just the top "campus cop", he might have saved countless boys from an alleged pedophile — and quite likely his job, his school, and his legacy.
      That's what we call "accountability" people. When you KNOW a crime SUCH AS THIS is being committed and you continue to allow it, you render yourself ACCOUNTABLE for the damages that crime has imposed on the VICTIMS! THOSE BOYS need validation! THEY are the ones who need acknowledgment! And PEACE! Whether or not anyone else involved in this finds that peace within themselves is INSIGNIFICANT! But it starts with the TRUTH!
    • TV  •  Encino, California  •  4 months ago
      I almost forgot. The police were notified about the crime long before Paterno know about it. The police did nothing. I see the news keeps forgetting to mention it again. Why are the police not being investigated for not doing anything about it.
    • Terri M54  •  Huntsville, Alabama  •  4 months ago
      I know what I would have done...not double screaming my head off for help....beating Sandusky off the kid with what ever I could find!!!!! And craddling the child in my arms.....that's what you do when you walk up on a person abusing another person...

      As a person of authority when the incident was reported to me....I would tell the person commititing the crime.....stay right where you are....the police are on their way....u r fired...dont ever put foot on this campus, field, fieldhouse....Joe Paterno could have been a hero for humanity...instead he is an enabler.
    • jamesj  •  4 months ago
      In this situation the only right think to do is call the police and then call the adminstration.Real simple dont try and cover for your friends.
    • Tammy  •  Columbus, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      The Board of Truste should all be lined up and shot!!!!! Hope you all go to hell!!! You killed Joepa!!! Rest in Peace Joe
    • Bill  •  4 months ago
      Joe - you never hesitated to get in the faces of ANY of your players when they did wrong. And, by wrong I mean a dropped pass, a missed block etc. Why on earth then didn't you confront the molester directly and take his butt apart piece by piece. You chose not to make a big deal of this and now you deserve to suffer the consequences.
    • Paul F.  •  4 months ago
      Hard to believe that an adult, college educated staff didn't know what to do. Child molesting isn't new into todays society.
    • Sandi  •  San Francisco, California  •  4 months ago
      What if it was your child...do you think he would still think he did what is best? As adults it is our job to protect children from this horror no matter what.