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    2004-era Mark Cuban didn’t think Steve Nash would still be walking at this point

    Steve Nash and Mark Cuban in bangs-ier days (Getty Images)

    The league churns along, people tend to forget, and rumor turns into legend turns into "fact." I'm sounding like inarticulate grandpa again, wobbling as he gives the Thanksgiving toast, but we needed to be reminded of long-ago lost context from time to time. Which is why it was nice of Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to remind us of why, exactly, he declined to spend his usual Mark Cuban-money on point guard Steve Nash in 2004, prior to his back-to-back MVP seasons.

    Cuban, fresh off a Mavericks championship last June, doesn't need to defend anything to any critic at this point for his decision, but it does bear repeating that Cuban would have been looked upon as an absolute nutter for matching or eclipsing the Phoenix Suns' contact offer to Nash in the summer of 2004. Chalk it up to revisionist history or Mark saving his own hide 7 1/2 years later, but even if he is making excuses, Cuban isn't wrong. Here's his defense, from the Fort Worth Star-Telegraph (via PBT):

    "I'll say it now, if you would have told me Steve would have been playing eight years later I would have bet any amount of money you'd be wrong.

    "The thing about Steve is his discipline. I knew he was disciplined, but I thought he would fall apart before it mattered,'' Cuban said. "All the advice I got from everybody we had was that he was going to fall apart. He proved us wrong -- and more power to him.

    "I give him a lot of credit. He proved me definitely wrong.''

    The problem with killing Cuban here is that Nash proved everyone wrong. And anyone who tells you differently is lying. The Internet existed in 2004, young men in derby hats still churned out periodicals and newspapers on the reg, and plenty of people had a chance to destroy Mark Cuban for letting Steve Nash go to a terrible Suns team as a free agent following Dallas' misguided 2003-04 season. Nobody raised their voice when the Mavs passed, strange for an analytical community that too often values what happened three months prior way more than what will happen to a player 13 months later.

    Nash, if you recall, needed until his third season as a Maverick to work out his various back, Achilles and ankle issues, and put together a fully healthy season in 2000-01. His game was so creaky at times that Cuban signed Utah Jazz reserve Howard Eisley in the summer of 2000, not to spell Nash, but to possibly beat him out in training camp for the starting gig. Again, not revisionist history, and a quick stroll through some of that fall's NBA preview mags will reveal some bylines as suggesting that a Mavs outfit with Eisley starting would lead Dallas to their first playoff berth in over a decade.

    Instead, Nash was that guy. He made All-Star teams and ran one of the prettier offenses in memory, with the only mitigating factors coming in the fact that Dallas could not make it out of the Western Conference bracket, and that Steve Nash wasn't STEVE NASH even through all the All-Star appearances and 120-point games.

    Why? Don Nelson.

    We shouldn't criticize the man too much, he had the instinct to trade for both Dirk Nowitzki and Steve Nash on the same night back in 1998, but he also ran that mismatch-heavy offense that often took the ball out of Nash's hands. It took Mike D'Antoni in Phoenix to ramp up the possession count even further and let Nash essentially have a say in every score with either a shot, assist, or hockey assist for the mainstream media to fall over itself whilst fawning and hand Nash two MVPs. Nash, in Dallas, was never going to dominate in that way. Not that this was a bad thing, considering Dallas nearly toppled Phoenix in 2005, took down the Suns in 2006, and tossed out some epic offensive seasons with Nash running the show on Nellie's teams in the years prior.

    And for Cuban to match Phoenix's contract offer in 2004, handing the 30-year-old heaps of money despite just four full healthy seasons as a Maverick behind him? It wouldn't have been regarded as a James Posey/Hedo Turkoglu-esque move, but we have to point out that most at the time thought the six-year deal to be worth every penny for the next two seasons before completely falling apart once Nash hit the age of 33 or so. History, the guy's injury past, and (we're guessing) the Maverick doctors screamed as much.

    For Nash to be churning along this season (14.3 points and over 10 assists in just under 32 minutes a night, a sterling 22.3 Player Efficiency Rating) a few weeks before turning 38 is, as Cuban points out, the result of Nash's own impressive dedication and perhaps the vaunted Phoenix Suns training staff. Cuban's most infamous "misstep" was an intelligent and calculated risk that didn't go according to script. And just as long as he doesn't twist things so as to take advantage of dodgy memories and writers looking for an easy angle, we're OK with making what might appear to sound like excuses to some.

    We're also more than OK with the Phoenix and Dallas offenses in the eight years following Nash's jump back to Arizona. Seems like just about everyone made out just fine in this transaction.

    Save for Howard Eisley. SMH.

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    85 comments

    • Kieran M  •  3 months ago
      Phoenix's training staff is ridiculous. Revived Nash and Grant Hill, temporarily helped Shaq perform at a semi-impressive level, and now they are trying to help Michael Redd.
      • ..... 3 months ago
        Except Shaq haha.
      • ..... 3 months ago
        If BOS let Ray Allen and KG go free, he should sign in PHX. Imagine a throwback lineup - Nash, Allen, Hill, KG, Gortat!
      • Al 3 months ago
        What they did to help those guys was amazing. Shaq was an All Star in his lone season in PHX. I believe he averaged 17 pts and had that monster 40+ pt game against the then Chris Bosh-led Toronto Raptors.
    • riverl  •  3 months ago
      Nash got his money in Phoenix and Cuban got his championship. It definitely worked out for both of them. No losers here.
      • R 3 months ago
        Cuban would have won at least one additional title had he signed Steve...but Steve probably would not have won the MVPs had he stayed in Dallas
      • chato martinez 3 months ago
        sorry im ahuge mavs/nash fan but if we kept steve we never would of got kidd and terry...therefore i would say under 2 championships.... mabey none!!
    • Reality  •  Oklahoma City, Oklahoma  •  3 months ago
      Steve Nash is poetry in motion. He definetely deserved his two MVP awards. He is a smart player that controls every aspect of the game. The most athletic player is not usually the best player. Steve proved this.
      • Hector 3 months ago
        Your wrong he definately did not control the defensive side of the ball. In my opinion Kobe should have won both those MVPs.
      • mgogol 3 months ago
        In those 2 seasons Kobe jacked up 25 shots a game on average while making below 45% of them. Those are ball hog, not MVP numbers. Lakers missed the postseason in 2005, and in 2006 they lost in the first round to....Steve Nash and the Suns.
      • Tyz 3 months ago
        Hector has Nash Envy.
    • Andrew  •  Atlantic City, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      Miserly ownership and some bad personnel decisions have destroyed an amazing team. Not resigning Amare and Joe Johnson, switching from D'Antoni to Porter, and dumping of high draft picks for nothing ruined what could have been a long run of playoff contention. It's sad that Nash may never win a championship. I feel management has also destroyed Detroit prematurely, but at least they won a championship.
    • Hasan the Conqueror  •  Norcross, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      Nobody ever gives Cuban or the Mavs credit for rebuilding after Nash....but the Mavs won 58, 60 and 67 games in the three seasons after they let Nash go. They also went to the Finals for the first time
    • Johnny  •  Vancouver, Canada  •  3 months ago
      At least Mark Cubin admitted he was wrong.Thats a good thing...GI
      • Heywood Jablome 3 months ago
        How can you possibly spell Mark Cuban's surname incorrectly? It's a 5 letter word that is littered throughout the article and is in the headline!
    • paul b  •  3 months ago
      And if not for Robert Horry's takedown of Nash in the playoffs, Steve would have also won a championship—before Dirk. I will always love Steve Nash for speaking up against the invasion of Iraq in February of 2003. If more athletes would express a social conscience, we'd all be better off for it.
      • DavidP 3 months ago
        I love Steve too, but the Iraq thing was one of the things I don't like about him.
      • Hector 3 months ago
        Bla Bla Bla. hes cool but he still couldnt get it done . Just cause Amari got suspended
      • Hector 3 months ago
        Ur trippin david the iraq thing was as cool as it gets. NASH IS THE MAN. kobe still deserved the 2nd MVP tho
    • Storm  •  3 months ago
      great points and a very valid story, but...very poorly written.
    • Zachary  •  3 months ago
      I don't care what anyone says, as a Mavericks fan I loved Nash and it brought a tear to my eye the day he signed with Phoenix. He was great with Dallas, and while he may have never earned an MVP with the Mavs, he would've still gone done as a great PG. In the Carlisle offense he would've thrived even more than he is now. I know there will be detractors that say the doesn't play enough D for Carlisle, but neither does Terry and no one bats an eye. Seeing him go off and do well makes me happy, but it doesn't make it hurt any less to see him in his Mavs uni any less
    • Beavis  •  Salt Lake City, Utah  •  3 months ago
      "considering Dallas nearly toppled Phoenix in 2005"
      Nearly? The Suns beat them in 6 games without Joe Johnson. They played only 6 guys for most of that series. Steven Hunter was their 6th guy... STEVEN HUNTER.

      Anyway, Cuban was being reasonable when he didn't re-sign Nash. The guy was 30 with back problems. Nobody thought Steve would become an MVP and still be playing like an all-star till this day.

      Not that it matters though. The Mavs finally shed their choker reputation and got a championship. They had a very deep bench, so when guys like Caron Butler went down, they could still beat the best of teams. It was all thanks to Cuban. He built a great team around his franchise player, gave his contending teams more than one shot and went all in and spent lots and lots of cash.

      I think Nash needed Cuban more than Cuban needed him. That Suns owner has traded star after star and first round pick after first round pick until it's now just Nash. I understand why he didn't want to re-sign Amar'e, but your franchise player is 36 and there's only so much more time to compete. Had he given that 09-10 team another shot, they may have won the 2011 title instead of the Mavs. Otherwise, those two teams have been practially the same for the past 8 years. Two great offensive teams with two great offensive players. The only difference are the owners.
    • john  •  3 months ago
      The MAVS would've had countless titles with steve at the point no shot to j kidd just my opinion.
    • bakunoda  •  3 months ago
      I Hope Nash could still go to a Strong contending Team to help him win a Championship at least one ring before he retires.
    • Santiago B  •  3 months ago
      Nobody back then thought it was a good idea to let Nash walk, are you stupid? Did you even watch basketball that wasn't in the city of Chicago?

      And they didn't win because Nash left, they won because Tyson Chandler arrived. Before Chandler nobody on that team played defense. The Mavs were soft. That's why the Spurs always took them out and the Lakers never played them until last year. They couldn't get past the tougher teams like Spurs and later on Nash's Suns.

      Steve Nash is a hall of famer, saying letting him walk is revisionist history and you'd only try to that make argument now and not prior to last year when the Mavs still had not done anything worth mentioning. Mark Cuban let people tell him what to do with Nash, which is unCuban-like according to how he portrays himself

      Raise your hand if you think Steve Nash was a better PG the last seven years than Jason Kidd and Devin Harris. That's what I thought. You could name all the past Suns players Nash made look better than they are who aren't doing jack in the league right now.
    • L R  •  Vancouver, Canada  •  3 months ago
      You ended the article with smh. c'mon kells, you're a writer...spell it out.
    • Jay  •  Minneapolis, Minnesota  •  3 months ago
      They would have at least two Championships if Nash stayed.
    • Boogie  •  Manila, Philippines  •  3 months ago
      One of the greatest guys in the NBA...more power to Steve
    • Paulie Jr.  •  3 months ago
      That is some impressive underarm hair on Nash.
    • William D  •  Cincinnati, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      kobe in top 50 for sure
    • Real Talk  •  Richardson, Texas  •  3 months ago
      Nash plays 0 defence..Jason Kid maybe 90 years old but he plays his old #$%$ off on both ends of the floor
    • America  •  3 months ago
      Biggest failure in Cuban's history! Could have had two rings with Nash or more. Nash and Dirk were always fun to watch.

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